LC Fomantis

[Mega-Pokebattlerz]

[OVERVIEW]
Almost everything Fomantis can do, Snivy can do better. The two Pokemon both have similar movepools and abilities, but Fomantis has much worse stats than Snivy and lacks access to certain useful moves like Glare and Knock Off. Even if Snivy weren’t useful, however, Fomantis would still be hindered by its awful typing and stats, which prevent it from ever being viable. While it can run a full physical set, which gives it a tiny bit of a niche over Snivy, its lack of power makes such a set not worth using.

[SET]
name: Defensive Defog
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Defog
move 3: Synthesis
move 4: Hidden Power Fire
item: Eviolite
ability: Contrary
nature: Bold
evs: 116 HP / 236 Def / 120 SpA

[SET COMMENTS]
This set allows Fomantis to come in on Onix and Mudbray somewhat reliably and avoid being 2HKOed (most of the time), letting it Defog safely. Unfortunately, Fomantis is quite slow and not very powerful, which limits this set's usefulness. Snivy is an objectively better user of this set due to its higher Speed and better overall bulk, but it would much rather be running an offensive set that puts more pressure on the opposing team, allowing it to have an easier time Defogging.
[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Mega-Pokebattlerz, 282306]]
- Quality checked by: [[Merritt, 213064], [Nineage, 195129]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Electrolyte, 148071]]

 

[Merritt]

[OVERVIEW]

Possibly worth mentioning that physical sets (since that's quite literally the only thing that it can do that Snivy won't do 100% better) are still bad due to Fomantis' terrible stats and end up being outclassed by Rowlet of all things. This isn't necessary though, it looks ok as is.

[SET]

Mostly because it's easier to justify, I'm going to recommend a much bulkier set for Fomantis to use for the analysis - Snivy still does it better but it's at least not the exact same set and honestly hitting 14 speed vs its native 10 isn't really doing much for Fomantis.

name: Still a worse snivy (Defensive Defog is a better objective name)
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Defog
move 3: Synthesis
move 4: Hidden Power Fire
item: Eviolite
ability: Contrary
nature: Bold
evs: 116 HP / 236 Def / 120 SpA

This set allows Fomantis to switch in on Mudbray and Onix somewhat reliably since they're relatively unlikely to 2HKO with that much bulk. This lets Fomantis defog slightly more safely. The 120 SpA is somewhat helpful for Staryu, so I wouldn't drop it any lower than that.

[SET COMMENTS]

Change the first and second sentences to account for the new set, emphasis Fomantis' slowness and lack of power for why the set is terrible. Adjust the last sentence so that it's clear that while Snivy has better things to do than run this set, it's still an objectively better user of it.

Once you've done that give yourself 1/2

 

[Mega-Pokebattlerz]

Forgot to mention this but I implemented the check a while ago, QC pls

 

[Nineage]

[OVERVIEW]

• The last sentence of this should be removed. Instead, mention that its one niche over snivy is possibly being able to run a full physical set, but that its still not good at that due to poor stats.

[SET]
Make sure this is formatted correctly and the set is given a name that will get through gp ;)

[SET COMMENTS]

• Explain WHY offensive defog is better than a bulkier set in this metagame

Good work, 2/2

 

[Mega-Pokebattlerz]

This should be okay. Ready for GP!

 

[Merritt]

You're unclear in this sentence.

Snivy is an objectively better user of this set due to its higher Speed and better overall bulk, but even defensive sets like this are generally not worth using in the current metagme, with the prevalence of Knock Off and Z-Moves putting immense pressure on defensive Pokemon.

Make it clear that Snivy should not run a defensive set like this, because right now this part of the sentence reads like it's talking about Fomantis itself. By making it clear that you mean Snivy should not run a defensive set like this you can be more specific about why not (offensive sets put more pressure on the opponent to allow for easier Defogging, allows for Snivy to contribute more effectively outside of just defogging).

Right now this is saying that defensive Pokemon as a whole aren't good, which is not really true. Please fix this.

 

[Mega-Pokebattlerz]

You're unclear in this sentence.



Make it clear that Snivy should not run a defensive set like this, because right now this part of the sentence reads like it's talking about Fomantis itself. By making it clear that you mean Snivy should not run a defensive set like this you can be more specific about why not (offensive sets put more pressure on the opponent to allow for easier Defogging, allows for Snivy to contribute more effectively outside of just defogging).

Right now this is saying that defensive Pokemon as a whole aren't good, which is not really true. Please fix this.

Oops! Fixed.

 

[Electrolyte]

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[OVERVIEW]
Almost everything Fomantis can do, Snivy can do better. The two Pokemon both have similar movepools and abilities, but Fomantis has much worse stats than Snivy and lacks access to certain useful moves like Glare and Knock Off. Even if Snivy wasn’t weren't useful, however, Fomantis is would still be hindered by its awful typing and stats, preventing which prevent it from ever being viable. While it can run a full physical set, which gives it a tiny bit of a niche over Snivy, its lack of power makes such a set not worth using.

[SET]
name: Defensive Defog
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Defog
move 3: Synthesis
move 4: Hidden Power Fire
item: Eviolite
ability: Contrary
nature: Bold
evs: 116 HP / 236 Def / 120 SpA

[SET COMMENTS]
This set allows Fomantis to come in on Onix and Mudbray somewhat reliably and avoid being 2HKO'd 2HKOed (most of the time), letting it get a Defog off safely. Unfortunately, Fomantis is quite slow and not very powerful, which limits this set's usefulness. Snivy is an objectively better user of this set due to its higher Speed and better overall bulk, but it would much rather be running an offensive set since that allows it to put puts more pressure on the opposing team, allowing it to have an easier time Defogging.

GP 1/1

 

[Mega-Pokebattlerz]

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[OVERVIEW]
Almost everything Fomantis can do, Snivy can do better. The two Pokemon both have similar movepools and abilities, but Fomantis has much worse stats than Snivy and lacks access to certain useful moves like Glare and Knock Off. Even if Snivy wasn’t weren't useful, however, Fomantis is would still be hindered by its awful typing and stats, preventing which prevent it from ever being viable. While it can run a full physical set, which gives it a tiny bit of a niche over Snivy, its lack of power makes such a set not worth using.

[SET]
name: Defensive Defog
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Defog
move 3: Synthesis
move 4: Hidden Power Fire
item: Eviolite
ability: Contrary
nature: Bold
evs: 116 HP / 236 Def / 120 SpA

[SET COMMENTS]
This set allows Fomantis to come in on Onix and Mudbray somewhat reliably and avoid being 2HKO'd 2HKOed (most of the time), letting it get a Defog off safely. Unfortunately, Fomantis is quite slow and not very powerful, which limits this set's usefulness. Snivy is an objectively better user of this set due to its higher Speed and better overall bulk, but it would much rather be running an offensive set since that allows it to put puts more pressure on the opposing team, allowing it to have an easier time Defogging.

GP 1/1

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