The Sevii Islands, maybe? Or something like it? I'm pretty sure the Sevii Islands are more associated with Kanto and/or are considered part of Kanto, but Johto and Kanto are right next to each other and Sevii is also associated with Johto in the sense that it's how a bunch of Johto Pokemon were made available in Gen 3. If not any of the islands visited in-game, maybe some previously-unvisted island like Birth Island and Navel Rock.
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Mountains, swamplands, woodlands, a desert....what a strange set of habitats you dwell in, volcanion.
"Desert island" isn't "Island with no water", it's "Island with no humans", deserted island. So the Whirl Islands work, and there's plenty of space for other islands in the vicinity that you just don't visit.
Except it is "a desert island", an island that has a desert habitat
if it was meant to deserted it would be "a deserted island"
Fair enough but now I will focus on the fact the dictionary requires a subscription
Base HP: 59
Base HP: 60
He realized he's not getting healthier, so better knuckle up with some armor.
Aegislash in general is arguably one of the weirdest evolutions in that it is not a "direct upgrade" from its pre-evolution statistically like most evolutions are. Aegislash is rather a very completely divergent Pokemon from its pre-evolutions, especially Doublade. Doublade is inherently a weird case where despite being a mid-evolution, by its stats you can tell it's a very decent and functional Pokemon in its own right, with a distinct stat spread that is min-maxed with high physical stats and low special stats, and low Speed, and it is a natural statistical upgrade from Honedge like most evolved forms are.
But when you go from Doublade to Aegislash, Aegislash is effectively a completely different Pokemon from Doublade and Honedge. In terms of its stat build, it changes entirely so it has low offensive stats and high defensive stats. Unlike Honedge and Doublade who had a standard ability in No Guard and were by all means a typical Pokemon with nothing special going for them, Aegislash also changes to become a gimmick/novelty Pokemon, as its ability changes to a unique signature one in Stance Change, which gives it a gimmick of two forms, where it transforms into an offensively oriented form where its usual high defensive, low offensive stat build switches to a high offensive, low defensive stat build, when attacking, and when defending with its new signature move, King's Shield, it changes back. Aegislash is effectively entirely different from Doublade and Honedge in that regard in that the way its stats and ability change turn it into a functionally different Pokemon who is also a unique gimmick Pokemon, with a unique gameplan tha neither of its pre-evolutions use.
While BST wise Aegislash is an upgrade from Doublade in that it gains 72 stat points upon evolving (448->520 BST) in Gens 6-7, and after the recent Aegislash nerf in SwSh a mere 52 stat point increase (448->500 BST), from a build standpoint Aegislash is completely and utterly different from its pre-evolutions. It is bar none one of the most unusual evolutions in that regard, as usually an evolution is a statistical upgrade from its pre-evolution, but Aegislash while having a higher BST than Doublade is effectively an entirely different Pokemon, the only thing they have in common is their shared typing and movepool by virtue of being in the same evolution line.
I don't know what they were thinking with it in particular, and I'm not mad about it personally since that's what makes Aegislash such a cool and interesting Pokemon to me, but Aegislash is definitely an extraordinarily unusual evolution among evolutionary lines in that regard and most certainly isn't like most evolutions in terms of how it changes from its pre-evolution.
But when you go from Doublade to Aegislash, Aegislash is effectively a completely different Pokemon from Doublade and Honedge. In terms of its stat build, it changes entirely so it has low offensive stats and high defensive stats. Unlike Honedge and Doublade who had a standard ability in No Guard and were by all means a typical Pokemon with nothing special going for them, Aegislash also changes to become a gimmick/novelty Pokemon, as its ability changes to a unique signature one in Stance Change, which gives it a gimmick of two forms, where it transforms into an offensively oriented form where its usual high defensive, low offensive stat build switches to a high offensive, low defensive stat build, when attacking, and when defending with its new signature move, King's Shield, it changes back. Aegislash is effectively entirely different from Doublade and Honedge in that regard in that the way its stats and ability change turn it into a functionally different Pokemon who is also a unique gimmick Pokemon, with a unique gameplan tha neither of its pre-evolutions use.
While BST wise Aegislash is an upgrade from Doublade in that it gains 72 stat points upon evolving (448->520 BST) in Gens 6-7, and after the recent Aegislash nerf in SwSh a mere 52 stat point increase (448->500 BST), from a build standpoint Aegislash is completely and utterly different from its pre-evolutions. It is bar none one of the most unusual evolutions in that regard, as usually an evolution is a statistical upgrade from its pre-evolution, but Aegislash while having a higher BST than Doublade is effectively an entirely different Pokemon, the only thing they have in common is their shared typing and movepool by virtue of being in the same evolution line.
I don't know what they were thinking with it in particular, and I'm not mad about it personally since that's what makes Aegislash such a cool and interesting Pokemon to me, but Aegislash is definitely an extraordinarily unusual evolution among evolutionary lines in that regard and most certainly isn't like most evolutions in terms of how it changes from its pre-evolution.
Doublade actually has higher Defense. They used to be the same, but aegislash got nerfed. The shield is entirely for special attacks.
I've taken both Doublade and Aegislash through X and I'd argue Doublade may be actually better in-game. No need for King's Shield makes the moveset easier, there's very little reason to put the effort in to switch to special attacks, Eviolite works, and most importantly, you don't have to pull stance dance mindgames against the AI.
Here's a post to the feature no one really talks about!
w h y ?
Okay, okay, to give a little background, this is something I simultaneously like AND dislike.
Basically, in FireRed and LeafGreen, every time you load your save data, the game will recap what you did last. On the one hand, I like this, mostly because I rarely finish RPGs and like reminders of what I did last (I blame my ADD and preference for familiar games with variation, which Pokemon has in spades). On the other hand, when you're marathoning games day-to-day for tier lists and the like, you really start to notice how stuff like this and the C-Gear prompts really add up time when you boot up the game.
This feature would make a return in the series one generation later in the form of the Guidebook, and this is something I can actually get behind.
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Guidebook
The Guidebook records limited notes on the player's daily gameplay activities, and can be viewed from the Bag. In Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, it is brought up automatically when returning to the game after two or more days have passed without making a new save."
Translation: this thing
Since it is brought up when 2+ days have passed, that's actually neat as a quick refresher even if you still likely button mash past it. It's still a little annoyance, but a bit more understandable.
w h y ?
Okay, okay, to give a little background, this is something I simultaneously like AND dislike.
Basically, in FireRed and LeafGreen, every time you load your save data, the game will recap what you did last. On the one hand, I like this, mostly because I rarely finish RPGs and like reminders of what I did last (I blame my ADD and preference for familiar games with variation, which Pokemon has in spades). On the other hand, when you're marathoning games day-to-day for tier lists and the like, you really start to notice how stuff like this and the C-Gear prompts really add up time when you boot up the game.
This feature would make a return in the series one generation later in the form of the Guidebook, and this is something I can actually get behind.
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Guidebook
The Guidebook records limited notes on the player's daily gameplay activities, and can be viewed from the Bag. In Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, it is brought up automatically when returning to the game after two or more days have passed without making a new save."
Translation: this thing
Since it is brought up when 2+ days have passed, that's actually neat as a quick refresher even if you still likely button mash past it. It's still a little annoyance, but a bit more understandable.
Yeah, when I played Y for the first time, I never used Aegislash since I didn't know it even evolved and just ran with Duoblade for the whole game. TBF, as far as middle evolutions go, Duoblade is probably one of the best ones since its stats are pretty min-maxed.
Speaking of Aegislash, I hate how it was nerfed. You'd think the Sword and Shield Pokemon would be buffed in Sword and Shield,, but I guess that made too much sense. They nerfed its stats, its signature move, and w/ Dynamax since it is one of the weaker Dynamaxers out there due to not being able to use King's Shield. I don't think any Pokemon has been nerfed to the extent Aegislash was. Other Pokemon that were nerfed, like Mega Khangaskhan, only got a nerf to their abilities or moves. However, Aegislash is the first Pokemon to have its stats straight up lowered, on top of its main move being nerfed.
What also sucks is that Aegislash didn't really get too many new toys in Sword and Shield either. Steel Beam and Close Combat are cool, but both moves have severe drawbacks. Other moves like Poltergeist or new coverage from a move like Leaf Blade would have been a lot more interesting I think.
Yeah, someone at GF must have had a really bad time in Battle Spot Singles in Gen 7, they really did it dirty in SwSh. :(
I remember at the beginning of the datamine I had my fingers crossed for the longshot that Aegislash would get some cool forms or something when holding the rusted sword/shield, but nope. I would've been happy with no forms but being able to use Behemoth Blade/Bash when holding the item.
I woulda gone with Wisp, not necessarily for Aegislash, but mainly because it annoys me that Honedge and Doublade don't get anything cool to abuse No Guard with. Machamp and Golurk get Dynamic Punch and Stone Edge, Lycanroc gets Stone Edge, Mega Pidgeot gets Hurricane, even Karrablast gets Megahorn. Doublade gets... Screech and Metal Sound. Allowing its weak SpDef to be better abused by Fire Blast is cool, but it's not cool enough.
As much as I enjoy the idea of a haunted sword wielding its own smaller sword, there's absolutely no way Aegislash would ever be given special formes/moves/etc with the Rusted Sword and Rusted Shield, let alone in the same generation Zacian and Zamazenta were introduced.
Aegislash is in the unfortunate position of having been way way better in PvP than in single-player Pokemon. Game Freak went full scorched earth with its nerfs, so now it's a little underwhelming in PvP and honestly kinda frustrating to use as an in-game mon.
YES. That always bugged me. Salt in the wound is that their most common coverage move is Sacred Sword, which should never miss anyway. Giving them some low-accuracy moves would be a buff that helps Doublade/Honedge a lot and doesn't help Aegislash as much. Iron Tail would be obvious, as is WillO, but they don't even get Poltergeist, which is the only not-perfect accuracy Ghost move out there.
I assume they don't have a HA because they don't want it to evolve from a mon with an HA to one without, but they've done that before and had no issues. It's just such a weird choice for an ability/moveset combo.
Pokémon that lose their hidden abilities upon evolution are rare, mostly Trapinch -> Vibrava and the cocoons. Starting in Gen 6, if a Pokémon only has one ability, it's usually a gimmick or they're a legendary... and Turtonator for some reason.
Wisp + Hex is one of the things I wished Aegislash got in SwSh but didn't.
I do agree that No Guard is a hinderance on Duoblade. Part of me wishes it got Guillotine, but know that that'll never happen lol. Apart from that and Wisp, I can't really see it getting anything else as far as low accuracy moves are concerned. Iron Tail would be a cool option, but is unlikely since the clotch is more like a hand than a tail.
I decided to check, because I wanted to see how common losing or gaining a hidden ability slot was. Alolan Raichu, Pupitar, Metapod, Kakuna, Silcoon, Cascoon, Shedinja, Trapinch, Ferroseed. So the cocoons, but also some other ones basically at random. Which is odd. Like, I could agree with you, except Alolan Raichu was Gen VII and clearly not a mistake or a gimmick that requires the ability for the mon. And why did they give Ferrothorn a HA in Gen VI but not Ferroseed?
Does GF have a series bible somewhere in their offices with rules for how this stuff works, or do they just make things up as they go along?
Don't forget levitate users. The only ones that get other abilities are the Bronzor line, who had 2 different abilities to counter one of their (at the time) only two weaknesses and then got Heavy metal as their Hidden Ability in Gen V, and the Koffing line, who retroactively gains Neutralizing Gas as their second normal Ability and Stench as their Hidden Ability(Galarian Weezing has Misty Surge as their hidden ability instead)
I do hope they eventually retcon more Pokemon cursed with levitate to have one or two more abilities, now that they've done it once already.
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Doesn't Duskull have a hidden ability as well?
Levitate feels like a relic from Gen 3, where most abilities were thematically broad so they could slap them onto a lot of Pokémon. Nearly every pink Normal-type got Cute Charm, nearly every legendary got Pressure, etc.
Levitate feels like a relic from Gen 3, where most abilities were thematically broad so they could slap them onto a lot of Pokémon. Nearly every pink Normal-type got Cute Charm, nearly every legendary got Pressure, etc.
I can see the logic behind not giving Pokemon with Levitate an alternate ability because, well... Pokemon like Weezing levitate. It's a pretty integral part of their design. It felt kind of dumb to me when they gave Weezing a second and third ability, even though both of Galarian Weezing's other options are great.
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