No, that's not it exactly. I'm saying that you seem to be misinterpreting of what value these old groups were and taking yours much too seriously; making you look pretty strange to everyone else.[/runon]
As for the challenge, sorry, but I'm going to have to hold off until the new rule set is announced. Sorry, but vgc 2012 is starting to get stale for me and I don't have much time to battle between college and helping out here.