I was even more surprised that it was able to hold up with the advent of garchomp and all that garbage! Neo-stall should exist. I think scarfwynaut came up with the idea in the genesect discussion thread. Using 5 defensives + RP genesect to sweep stuff after you're backed into a corner. I want it done, I just don't know how...at any rate, sticking with rain stall is my plan for the moment. If I wanted to use Dragonite and Jirachi, ferrothorn and tentacruel are just staples for rain stall, then what should my 5th be? I thought about using CB scizor for just a bit of offensive muscle, plus reuniclus.