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  • well if its a mixed scarfer ! then definitly because special walls will wall the hell out of you
    yea but it must have reliability at some point

    otherwise there wont be a 50% chance survival due to seadras frailness
    well my altaria set , its supposed to be bulky in both sides and not meant to sweep! When giving it an adamant , it actually decreases altarias needs of taking hits so its not good! With a careful nature and cotton gaurd , its pretty good since he can take hits on both sides, (well besides steel types , ice types , and dragon types) and he can heal off with roost! Altaria isnt meant to go for a sweep but hes good on walling other pokemon

    The second set is good ! (since its a different set) . The problems im seeing on that set is that it has less coverage. Mind switching a move for Earthquake because steel types are a pain in the ass. It needs some speed EVs , because , even if it goes for a DD , other scarfers will kill you off
    actually surf is pretty well with hydro pump unlike brine. Hydro Pump has more power , unlike brine , and brine , you must be sure to have 50% or less , decreasing its survivalbility which isnt good! and uproar isnt worth it because of its low power and unreliablility
    Yo guys ! Here is THE best set ever for my altaria. This guy is awesome and is the only dragon to be PU. So here goes.



    Altaria (Careful) Evs=252hp/252spdef/4atk

    ~Cotton Guard
    ~Dragon Claw
    ~Roost
    ~Toxic

    Ok so this altaria is unbreakable execept for ice and dragon types. Hes really bulky and he is really awesome IMO. Ok heres why. Cotton Guard boosts your DEF by +3. Dude, +3. Thats insane so DEF evs arent even required for this set. Dragon Claw is your only attacking option which is cool. Roost heals off your damage and thats cool lol , because reliable recovery is needed. Toxic just cripples enemies which is awesome.
    very good ! that set could work since it has the move pool. in-rain support that set could be very helpful , obtaining alot of revenge kills

    but the last move i would use is hydro pump because brine is unreliable and is outclassed by surf
    sorry lol i was on project PU ^-^

    a good scarfer would be

    -Monferno
    -Magmar
    -Electabuzz
    One thing I do disagree with is Serperior being in the PU tier.
    It is one of the best on NU if used correctly and can serve as a wonderful stall.
    No...I have not.
    I tried Extremespeed Pikachu.
    It is gonna take sometime to write an analysis on a calm mind Golduck with substitute.
    Draggi joined.
    Shayminlover123 joined.
    Format:
    NU
    Sleep Clause: Limit one foe put to sleep
    Species Clause: Limit one of each Pokemon
    OHKO Clause: OHKO moves are banned
    Moody Clause: Moody is banned
    Evasion Moves Clause: Evasion moves are banned
    Evasion Abilities Clause: Evasion abilities are banned
    Draggi's team:
    Glalie / Misdreavus / Pikachu / Golduck / Serperior / Magmar
    Shayminlover123's team:
    Gardevoir / Gabite / Gigalith / Glaceon / Golurk / Gorebyss
    Battle between Draggi and Shayminlover123 started!
    Go! Glalie!
    Shayminlover123 sent out Gigalith!
    Turn 1
    Glalie, come back!
    Go! Golduck!
    The foe's Gigalith used Autotomize!
    The foe's Gigalith's Speed sharply rose!
    The foe's Gigalith became nimble!
    Turn 2
    Shayminlover123: hmmm
    Shayminlover123 withdrew Gigalith!
    Shayminlover123 sent out Gorebyss!
    Golduck used Hydro Pump!
    The foe's Gorebyss avoided the attack!
    Turn 3
    Golduck, come back!
    Go! Pikachu!
    The foe's Gorebyss used Barrier!
    The foe's Gorebyss's Defense sharply rose!
    Turn 4
    Pikachu used Thunderbolt!
    It's super effective! The foe's Gorebyss lost 100% of its health!
    The foe's Gorebyss fainted!
    Shayminlover123 sent out Gabite!
    Turn 5
    Draggi: Could switched out into Gabite.
    Pikachu, come back!
    Go! Misdreavus!
    The foe's Gabite used Outrage!
    Misdreavus lost 50% of its health!
    Misdreavus restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 6
    Shayminlover123: ....What....
    The foe's Gabite used Outrage!
    Misdreavus lost 54% of its health!
    Misdreavus used Will-O-Wisp!
    The foe's Gabite was burned!
    The foe's Gabite's rampage ended!
    The foe's Gabite became confused!
    Misdreavus restored HP using its Leftovers!
    The foe's Gabite was hurt by its burn!
    Turn 7
    Misdreavus, come back!
    Go! Glalie!
    The foe's Gabite is confused!
    The foe's Gabite used Stealth Rock!
    Pointed stones float in the air around your team!
    The foe's Gabite was hurt by its burn!
    Turn 8
    Shayminlover123: Well Gabite is no Garchomp....
    Shayminlover123 withdrew Gabite!
    Shayminlover123 sent out Glaceon!
    Glalie used Spikes!
    Spikes were scattered all around the feet of the foe's team!
    Turn 9
    Glalie used Iron Head!
    It's super effective! The foe's Glaceon lost 21% of its health!
    The foe's Glaceon used Shadow Ball!
    Glalie lost 21% of its health!
    Glalie restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 10
    Draggi: Glalie is just ice type bro.
    Glalie used Dark Pulse!
    The foe's Glaceon lost 19% of its health!
    The foe's Glaceon used Wish!
    Glalie restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 11
    Shayminlover123: I knew that...
    Glalie used Ice Beam!
    It's not very effective... The foe's Glaceon lost 15% of its health!
    The foe's Glaceon used Wish!
    Glaceon's wish came true!
    Glalie restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 12
    Draggi: Sorry..when you used shadow ball..I though you..
    Glalie used Iron Head!
    It's super effective! The foe's Glaceon lost 19% of its health!
    The foe's Glaceon used Shadow Ball!
    Glalie lost 21% of its health!
    Glalie restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 13
    Draggi: Thought Glalie was ghost type too.
    Shayminlover123: Im hoping for a SP dp drop
    Glalie used Iron Head!
    A critical hit! It's super effective! The foe's Glaceon lost 35% of its health!
    The foe's Glaceon used Shadow Ball!
    Glalie lost 21% of its health!
    Glalie restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 14
    Glalie used Iron Head!
    It's super effective! The foe's Glaceon lost 19% of its health!
    The foe's Glaceon used Wish!
    Glalie restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 15
    Glalie used Iron Head!
    It's super effective! The foe's Glaceon lost 21% of its health!
    The foe's Glaceon used Shadow Ball!
    A critical hit! Glalie lost 40% of its health!
    Glaceon's wish came true!
    Glalie restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 16
    Glalie used Iron Head!
    It's super effective! The foe's Glaceon lost 19% of its health!
    The foe's Glaceon used Wish!
    Glalie restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 17
    Glalie used Iron Head!
    It's super effective! The foe's Glaceon lost 19% of its health!
    The foe's Glaceon used Shadow Ball!
    Glalie lost 21% of its health!
    Glaceon's wish came true!
    Glalie restored HP using its Leftovers!
    Turn 18
    Glalie, come back!
    Go! Magmar!
    Pointed stones dug into Magmar!
    The foe's Glaceon used Wish!
    Turn 19
    Shayminlover123 withdrew Glaceon!
    Shayminlover123 sent out Gigalith!
    The foe's Gigalith is hurt by the spikes!
    Magmar used Focus Blast!
    The foe's Gigalith avoided the attack!
    Glaceon's wish came true!
    Turn 20
    Magmar, come back!
    Go! Golduck!
    Pointed stones dug into Golduck!
    The foe's Gigalith used Stealth Rock!
    Turn 21
    Draggi: I wanted that to hit...
    Shayminlover123 withdrew Gigalith!
    Shayminlover123 sent out Glaceon!
    The foe's Glaceon is hurt by the spikes!
    Golduck used Substitute!
    Golduck put in a substitute!
    Golduck lost 25% of its health!
    Turn 22
    Golduck used Calm Mind!
    Golduck's Special Attack rose!
    Golduck's Special Defense rose!
    The foe's Glaceon used Wish!
    Turn 23
    Shayminlover123: Perfect......
    Draggi: Dude...that is bad.
    Shayminlover123 withdrew Glaceon!
    Shayminlover123 sent out Gardevoir!
    The foe's Gardevoir is hurt by the spikes!
    The foe's Gardevoir traced Golduck's Damp!
    Golduck used Calm Mind!
    Golduck's Special Attack rose!
    Golduck's Special Defense rose!
    Glaceon's wish came true!
    Turn 24
    Shayminlover123: I know
    Golduck used Calm Mind!
    Golduck's Special Attack rose!
    Golduck's Special Defense rose!
    The foe's Gardevoir used Calm Mind!
    The foe's Gardevoir's Special Attack rose!
    The foe's Gardevoir's Special Defense rose!
    Turn 25
    Golduck used Hydro Pump!
    The foe's Gardevoir avoided the attack!
    The foe's Gardevoir used Calm Mind!
    The foe's Gardevoir's Special Attack rose!
    The foe's Gardevoir's Special Defense rose!
    Turn 26
    Golduck used Hydro Pump!
    The foe's Gardevoir lost 67% of its health!
    Golduck lost some of its HP!
    The foe's Gardevoir used Calm Mind!
    The foe's Gardevoir's Special Attack rose!
    The foe's Gardevoir's Special Defense rose!
    Turn 27
    Golduck used Calm Mind!
    Golduck's Special Attack rose!
    Golduck's Special Defense rose!
    The foe's Gardevoir used Shadow Ball!
    Golduck's substitute faded!
    Turn 28
    Draggi: Having a sub on a sweeper helps bro.
    Golduck used Hydro Pump!
    The foe's Gardevoir lost 33% of its health!
    Golduck lost some of its HP!
    The foe's Gardevoir fainted!
    Shayminlover123 sent out Gigalith!
    The foe's Gigalith is hurt by the spikes!
    Turn 29
    Shayminlover123: This battle is over
    Golduck used Ice Beam!
    The foe's Gigalith lost 88% of its health!
    Golduck lost some of its HP!
    The foe's Gigalith fainted!
    Shayminlover123 sent out Golurk!
    The foe's Golurk is hurt by the spikes!
    Turn 30
    Draggi: YOu could outspeed me bro.
    Golduck used Ice Beam!
    It's super effective! The foe's Golurk lost 88% of its health!
    Golduck lost some of its HP!
    The foe's Golurk fainted!
    Shayminlover123 sent out Gabite!
    The foe's Gabite is hurt by the spikes!
    Turn 31
    Golduck used Ice Beam!
    It's super effective! The foe's Gabite lost 63% of its health!
    Golduck lost some of its HP!
    The foe's Gabite fainted!
    Shayminlover123 sent out Glaceon!
    The foe's Glaceon is hurt by the spikes!
    Turn 32
    Shayminlover123: If I could use ninjask....
    Shayminlover123: I would
    Golduck used Hydro Pump!
    The foe's Glaceon avoided the attack!
    The foe's Glaceon used Shadow Ball!
    Golduck lost 10% of its health!
    Turn 33
    Golduck used Ice Beam!
    It's not very effective... The foe's Glaceon lost 40% of its health!
    Golduck lost some of its HP!
    The foe's Glaceon fainted!
    Golduck fainted!
    Draggi won the battle!
    Draggi: GG.
    Shayminlover123: This isn't easy...
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