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I've had huge success with both offense and stall, Keldeo has been the least of my worries on both.

And why don't people acknowledge getting cbtar burned in order to get a big chunk off jellicent, while with some prediction you can get jelly in on a hydro pump and heal back up later, sure prediction goes both ways but do you really wanna cripple a cbtar for a 50/50 later? And if one thing dies to a secret sword or hydro from choiced keldeo, jelly gets an opportunity to heal back up anyway

I feel like things are getting banned just because it's one less thing to deal with, honestly.

I agree. Keldeo's been the least of my worries too. Whenever I build, I always find I have more than enough Pokemon to check Keldeo decently enough.

I think I might be done with trying to argue though, since everytime I respond to a pro-ban argument my post ends up getting deleted, even when I make perfectly valid points.

BKC and Rey also tag team together. Like they did last suspect. And they make really bad points too and over exaggerate everything. I bet they are the same BW1 players who wanted to ban Terrakion lol.

Anyway, yeah that MikeDawg guy missed my point completely. I brought up those stall mons to show how many numerous CHECKS stall usually has for Keldeo. I never said they were counters in my post ;x. And the offense point I made should be clear and cut easy concept to grasp. But I'm not going to respond to him because Smogon is rly bad with suspect testing atm

Too bad you're both terrible at this game and I'm the best :>

Just because I don't ladder on PS doesn't mean I don't ladder on PO ;]. Also, remember that team I sent you? I sent it to Spinda too and he got top 20 on PO :D (#Spinda&ShurtFTW)

I forgot to tell you, I got top 10 ;]