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Anivia
Anivia
I think freedom would give you the ability of choosing whether or not to take the consequences of your actions. There is, of course, a moral and social obligation to do so, but in the end it's your decision.
Not-so-fun fact: In my country's constitution, freedom ends where you're affecting someone else's rights, so that if you violate their rights, you need to be held responsible and deal with the consequences.
KingHeracrossTheBug
KingHeracrossTheBug
The quote 'No practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences' states that freeing yourself from something has some consequences that you must be willing to take. For example, if a population has being on a dictatorship for some time then freeing themselves means they must be free enough to take the consequences of such a big change.
KingHeracrossTheBug
KingHeracrossTheBug
I see you like quotes from Going Postal, a book posted by Terry Pratchett, published on September 25, 2004; translated to Spanish in September 2011 :p
(You said to be specific so :p)
rufus drumknott
rufus drumknott
Not quite the specific I'm looking for ;D Don't try again, let someone else try that one. Anyway, just look at my username and sig. My life revolves around two things: Pokemon, and Discworld :p
wowgek7
wowgek7
I have no opinion on it but I believe its a quote from the movie V for vandetta:P
CD_North
CD_North
The work (Going Postal by Terry Pratchett) has already been mentioned, but I believe you specifically mean Lord Vetinari said it. Pretty sure it came up in the "you are free to leave any time you want" scene, where it meant Lipwig could technically back out if were willing to die. Will post thoughts on it later when I have time.
CD_North
CD_North
Just noticed that he's also your boss.
rufus drumknott
rufus drumknott
Indeed, that is the correct scene, CD_North, and what I was looking for. I didn't consciously make this and my past giveaway about Going Postal, but I did consciously make it about Lord Vetinari. His treatises on freedom are interesting to read considering his position as tyrant, though I obviously have no opinion on them (haha, anyone want to guess THAT reference?).
KingHeracrossTheBug
CD_North
CD_North
Cutting my original comment WAY down. I think the statement is basically correct, but seems to ignore another important part of most definitions of freedom: freedom from consequences imposed from other people by force. Without that, "freedom" is sort of meaningless in that you can be said to be free no matter what your situation is.
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