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Hulavuta
Hulavuta
"I did that on purpose!" L M F A O

but honestly stuff like this really scares me. like protests and riots legitimately frighten me.
GatoDelFuego
GatoDelFuego
the human condition is unfixable my friend
Hulavuta
Hulavuta
I mean it just frightens me to see people basically revert to the most basic almost animalistic behavior, I thought as a society we were past this.

And it frightens me too 'cause I can relate to it. Like I used to have some serious anger issues believe it or not, before I grew up a bit and learned how to deal with it. And it's so weird because you're fucking pissed at that person so you're going back to making animal noises and yelling and throwing swears but at the same time trying to think rationally because you are technically arguing with someone.
Hulavuta
Hulavuta
It's just a weird feeling to just lose it and go crazy while also thinking argumentatively. Like he is trying to make a legitimate point about her profiling him as a drug addict and that he is not a certain kind of person just because he is against Trump, whom he claims to be fascist. And she is trying to argue that she didn't mean it like that, and "what are you smoking" is just an expression of disbelief that people use. So they're trying to digest arguments and rebut but at the same time they've devolved into animals.

Another great example (which I said earlier) was when he did the back flip and failed. He's lost his mind and is saying "oh yeah I'm an animal watch me backflip" which is basically his crazy talk. But after he fails, that self-conscious part of him is still saying "I messed up my backflip, I just fucking embarrassed myself in front of all these people" and hastily tries to cover it up with "I did that on purpose!" It's just a weird state of losing control of yourself while still being completely self-aware. Just a scary feeling.
GatoDelFuego
GatoDelFuego
andrenaline is powerful I guess? It's like getting sucked into a black hole because the more you shout and get angry the more the rage fuels you. I mean, are you REALLY self-aware? I don't think so. Film yourself talking normally and you're STILL like "oh man what am I doing here??" so when you throw anger in the mix it's just magnified
Hulavuta
Hulavuta
Yeah, that's what I mean. If you are really legitimately crazy, you wouldn't care. But you're still self-conscious (that's what I meant, not self-aware) despite acting like a crazy person. It's just a weird balance
Pyritie
Pyritie
"I thought as a society we were past this."

lol no, human nature hasn't changed in thousands of years
Hulavuta
Hulavuta
Yeah it was rhetorical more like "we should be past this"
Hulavuta
Hulavuta
like when your kid does something dumb and you say "come on, you know better than that" even though they clearly don't because they just did it
Pyritie
Pyritie
A bit unrelated to the original post, but do you think "getting past this" is ever going to be possible? I take the more pessimistic view of "no, we never will", and think our time would be better spent trying to come up with solutions to problems that work *with* human nature instead of needing to be dependent on people explicitly being "good"
Hulavuta
Hulavuta
I don't see how that could ever work tbh

As for people getting angry and arguing with each other like in that video I think you can definitely reduce the number of things that instigate this sort of anger. I mean you can't just get angry at nothing unless you are a crazy person. It takes two to tango etc.
Hulavuta
Hulavuta
this is not really my specialty though
GatoDelFuego
GatoDelFuego
everybody be quiet and talk about the backflip of champions
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