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I thought this would be bad but oml, that's actually pretty interesting and relevant

yeah it is what do you think about his situation

same waY I do about the trolley: ignore it, u are not morally responsible and things have consequences whether you know them or not

"It's more important to master the cards you're holding than to complain about the ones your opponents were dealt"

nice quote for me to say LOL i'm not dead in a trolley crash

Um, I'm pretty sure the meaning of that quote is to say "count your blessings and don't be jealous of what other people have?" not to say "deal with your own problems fuck everyone else"

point is even if bad things happen and can be prevented we learned from them

what about time repercussions

also what if one of the ppl that died during 9/11 was a serial killer that was planning on detonating a nuclear bomb in the middle of LA? you never know

Also, stopping 9/11 by killing the pilot doesn't solve the problem. It just stops an event. It doesn't stop the reason BEHIND the event. It would happen eventually. Only solution is to go talk to the president about the future n stuff. So i think he made the wrong choice

Man, that's just like in the book Timeline by Michael Crichton. Saying that some things you can't change. The example he used was even if you go back in time, you can't really make one baseball team beat another one. You could kill all the people in the stadium or something but it's outside of your power to change the outcome of the game. (although he used it to dismiss the grandfather paradox which tbh this does NOT dismiss)

Anyway that point was brought up in the video. He had to stage a fake 9/11 to get everyone on alert so that they could prevent future 9/11s. So it might not happen eventually, it hasn't so far.

Anyway, the whole point of this deals with knowledge. The argument is that it is your moral obligation to stop 9/11 because you know it's going to happen. You do NOT know if one of the victims was a serial killer, so that's beyond your moral duty.

it's about knowledge https://vine.co/v/iheWqmxB1Lg

getting the TSA on alert wouldn't prevent 9/11 tho :O

cause bad security

osama could still get a band of mercenaries. It's all up in the air. Too many variables.

Dude can you like put all this into one post you are blowing up my alerts

anyway you seem to hold the viewpoint that whether an action is right or wrong depends on the outcome, which I don't agree with.

Or you are arguing that it is technically your moral obligation to stop 9/11 but given how hard that is to actually do it's ok if you don't?

I argue that you are never responsible for someone else's actions, even if you might have had the opportunity to stop them. It shifts blame in my opinion