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  • For the 4th pokemon:
    Toxicroak: Life orb
    Moveset:
    Sucker punch
    Fake out(Taunt)
    Low kick
    Poision jab
    Nature: Brave
    Ability: dry skin
    IV: 0 speed
    EV: 252 attack, 252 SpD, 4 hp
    This mostly OHKos any threat kyogre and dialga have: Abomasnow, ludicolo, ttar, blissey and many more. The reason why SpD is stressed in evs is because there are not many speacial attackers toxicroak has to worry about. Fighting pokes have nothing on toxicroak. Even when ttar comes in with EQ, toxicroak OHKO's ttar without any hp evs and 2 OHKOs it with full with a possibility of OHKO. Kyogre doesn't have to worry about ludicolo and abomasnow with toxicroak. It can OHKO them with posion jab.
    Threats: Cresselia with pyschic OHKOs this set. Groundon's sun hurts Toxi and any EQ can cause a lot of damage.
    Your welcome ^^.
    Third pokemon:Kyogre-expert belt
    Moveset:
    Thunder
    Ice beam
    Surf
    Protect
    When you send kyogre in, it's likely to set up rain since there are no leads it has to worry about speed tying with. I personally think that surf is better than water spout. Mostly do to the reason that kyogre is the main target for most people and will be hurt before it attacks. Since rain will be set up once it's out, blizzard would have 50% accuracy. I'd rather have an attack hit my opponent rather than it hit the wrong target or nothing at all.
    IV: 0 speed
    EV: 252 hp, 252 SpA, 4 whatever
    Nature: Quiet
    Threats: Pretty much the same threats as the ones listed. I forgot to mention ludicolo as a threat previously and don't have the room to edit it. Ludicolo grass knots for the 2 OHKO. If it doesn't it can stall out kyogre. The only chance kyogre has alone is to try and hax the threats. Thunder for paraylsis or if your desperate, ice beam for the freeze. The threats can be covered by the next poke.
    Dialga: chople or shuca berry
    Moveset:
    Trick Room
    Aura Sphere
    Dragon Pulse
    Thunder
    Most people assume you will fake out with ludicolo so they protect. (You can replace hydro pump with it.) That will give you a free turn to set up trick room. Once trick room, dialga sweeps.
    Nature: quiet
    IV: 0 speed
    Evs: 252 hp, 252 SpA, 4 whatever
    Basic evs. No speed evs are needed so the extra goes to defenses.
    Threats: Groundon and cresselia lead. Cresselia usually sets up trick room while groundon protects. Then Groundon gets a helping hand boost from Cresselia. Earthquake 2 OHKO and OHKO Dialga which is why ludicolo grass knots and dialga uses trick room to nullify everything. This is tricky, because cresselia might use helping hand or t-wave instead hoping you trick room. Or when you trick room you are slower than groundon and cresselia and get to move first. This is why the first turn is the deciding turn. Watch out for Hitmontop, Hariyama, machamp, Ttar. Will post the rest of the team later.
    I'm going to make you a simple team for vgc to do on pokemon online. Sometimes, it's easier doing then reading things

    Ludicolo-Leftovers
    Moveset:
    Leech seed
    Protect
    Grass knot
    Hydro pump(Toxic)
    Annyoing stall ludicolo. Leech seed or attack. When it's down on hp, protect and get back at least 1/4 of your hp in rain. Toxic is there in case of blissey.
    Nature:Sassy
    Ability:Rain dish
    EV:252 Hp, 216 SpDef, 40 De
    The 40 in defense lets the OHKO be 2 OHKO for physical attacks. The hp and SpD is able to take multiple hits from dialga and palkia at once. I stalled a diagla and palkia with only ludi and won. This set ensures that with 1 on 1 with palkia, ect, ludicolo dances away.
    Threats:Toxicroak is able to taunt and therefore cipple ludicolo. Posion jab goes for the OHKO. Brave bird OHKOs ludicolo without a doubt. Physical attackers can hurt ludi before it has time to recover or attack. Abomasnow and Parasect resist leech seed and the attacks, (toxic is useful there.)
    Continued from kyogre leads.
    Trick room ogre: With or without an iron ball, rain is in affect more than scarf or regualar ogre. Abomasnow and tyranitar are usually are slower than ogre without iron ball so hail or sandstorm would be in affect. While it has to wait a turn for the support to set up trick room, once it's up, there is no stopping it. Though it has to watch out for abomasnow, ttar, groundon with iron ball, which are all slower than it.
    Nature: Quiet, sassy.
    Iv: 0 speed
    Evs: In Hp, SpA, and SpDefense
    Counters: Abomasnow, ttar, groundon for reasons above. It's smart to put protect on Kyogre to take the hit while trick room gets set up. Without protect, kyogre is prone to palkia, other kyogres, and everything that outspeeds it.
    Options: This can be in the back of the team as well. Once trick room is set up, switch in kogre for some sweeping.
    Continued..Need more room in conversations
    Toxicroak and parasect are also vaiable support. Instead of water spout, surf would replace it for an advantage to your team.
    Nature: Timid mostly. Modest won't outspeed other scarfs.
    Evs: 252 SpA, 252 Speed, 4 whatever.
    Option: Other counters include groundon suprisingly. With an iron ball or without, sun will be in play with a scarf ogre. So instead of rain boost to water spout, sunny day decreases the power. Though it would be wise to switch or protect groundon untill kyogre is weakend or gone. It can still cause a lot of damage. Tyranitar can do the same thing. The difference is the SpD boost and the average water power instead of decreasing water in the sun. Abomasnow is also a very good counter. Water spout barely does anything while hail is in play. Abomasnow would grass knot for the 2 OHKO or OHkO. Though with abomasnow out it's more likely kyogre would blizzard. With scarf ogre, you have less of a chance of setting up rain.
    Kyogre:
    No matter what version you face it pretty much has the same moveset regardless of the item. Possible moves: Water spout, surf, muddy water, thunder, ice beacm, blizzard, protect. Rarely do you see hp flying
    Leads: Scarf ogres- usually use spout. With 150 power if it's not hit with a priorety move, it puts your leads at a 2 OHKO or both OHKOed. Commonly pared with hitmontop to ensure kyogre recives less damage for around the same damage with spout next turn. The way to counter is to trick room (protect the other poke for less damage.), attack kyogre before it spouts, or fake out kyogre with something faster than hitmontop and bring in a kyogre counter like abomasnow and ludicolo. Another partner is togekiss. One of vgcs most annoying pokemon. Togekiss will either follow me and take the damage or air slash for the flinch. To counter you taunt kyogre and bring in something that can take a spout.
    It's fine. Pokemon roles:
    Ubers-They are the main powerhouse of any team. Since most of the ubers allowed in vgc are speacially based, most are special sweepers: Kyogre, palkia, mewtwo, dialga, lugia, rayquazza sometimes, and the occasional calm mind giratina-(o). Basic movesets include thunder, surf, blizzard, aura sphere, grass knot,ect.
    Some can function as mixed sweepers, but it's rare. Rayquaza would be mixed. Rayquazza, as you know, is weak to ice. In this metagame, abomasnows are everywhere and ice shard from weavile can OHKO ray. So with hail and blizzard, ray won't last long unless you can take out abomasnow, and every other poke that learns an ice move.
    Physical sweepers:giratina-(o), Ho-oh, Groundon, Rayquazza, and rare bulk up dialga.
    Other Options:Lugia sets up screens, but cressialia can also do that while not filling up the 2nd uber position. Though Cressilia doesn't have the stats Lugia does including the 90 in SpA. Giratina and Lugia can be status inducer with T-wave.
    Alright I give up I'm trying to trade off my bloody diamond rom on my ds cart but I guess it won't work
    Can we try one more time I think I fixed the thing that was wring with my game
    No problem at all! I didn't have to talk you throught very much at all. I wish someone would give me a hand with pokewalker abuse....have been reading about it in the research thread and most of it goes over my head lol.
    And thank you! I see from all your own pokemon you have that you have definitely got your head around RNG abuse. Well done!
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