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yeah, if you think this set has so few advantages over the LO attacker set, then I feel you should still at least give it a mention in AC or something, as the two sets have distinct differences. my biggest issue with not including this set is that many of the downsides seem to be based on the...

I still fail to see why people are comparing this to the LO set; this plays more as a late game cleaner and scout than an early game hole puncher. as compared to Tauros, this set is better at maintaining momentum and scouting counters. as compared to Scyther, this set does not need Stealth Rock...

INTJ 100I/88N/62T/44J pretty solid description of me, as I really prefer just sitting in my dorm room to going out; it's not so much that I'm 'shy', I just really don't care for people at all. rarely do I find my interests in tune with other people's, and I don't really care to find people...

yeah, I actually meant when I use SubPunch 'Croak, I tend to just stick 252HP/Atk with Adamant. SD variants I always take Jolly to always outspeed Venusaur and blow them up with Ice Punch. NP versions I'll occasionally run Modest because Vacuum Wave is more reliable than Sucker Punch, and so the...

hmph. I was always using 252HP/252Atk Adamant 'cause I was too lazy to actually make a good spread. but yeah, way better spread there.

hi, I personally disagree with the above, as SD Ludicolo is far more useful in breaking down Rain counters than I ever found the special set to be. oh, and yeah, I'd replace Swellow with Uxie/Mesprit/Weezing, all of which can Dance and then come back later in the game and do so again; having...

I'd recommend a 28HP/252Atk/228Spe Adamant spread for Gatr with Sub/DD/Return/Aqua Tail or Waterfall. you could also try a a bulky/bulky SD set, or even SD Kabutops with Aqua Jet/Stone Edge/Watefall or something. DD Gatr without Sub is just meh in my opinion.

the only reason I hate Milotic is because every so often you switch in your Toxicroak(or other Milo 'counter'), only to be exploded by LO Ice Beam or HP:Psychic or whatever stupid crap. most of the time, though, she's just a fat whore who doesn't patch up all the team weaknesses people attempt...

Chubby Love hi. normally, I like to use gimmicky spreads and goofy things from the QC/new and creative movesets junk, but today, that has only slightly changed. teambuiliding: I noticed that a Poke I always loved using on bulkier teams has really cool defensive synergy with a Poke I always hate...

things I like using that are slightly less common: bulky SubDD Feraligatr - surprises a lot of people with its bulk + Sub bulky Special Attacker Exeggutor - used this on/off for the past three months I've played LO+Sub Manectric - I didn't find myself caring enough about Charge Beam's +1 and...

what the fuck this is too ridiculously similar to my team I was laddering with before I got bored/started losing every game. how do you deal with bulky douchebags like Milotic and Slowbro? when I was using my team I kept shuffling around my SubPunchers(Kangaskhan with/without Sucker Punch...

Swords Dance Sceptile @LO with Double-Edge is a very reliable grass raper. OHKOs/outspeeds and THKOs a lot of stupid stuff that it normally wouldn't. douchey troll stuff like Specs or Wide Lens Milotic also lure things well.

I think the reason the discussion began was because someone was asking how to deal with it if, say, your primary counter, e.g. Milotic, gets frozen or something(which is likely to happen with 3+ Blizzard spammers in Hailish weather) and then someone questioned the viability of said team(without...

yeah Shrang, I'm not exactly saying this is a great team or anything, but rather that it is effective. sort of how heavy offensive teams aren't exactly the best types to take into a tournament, but do well in accruing unexpected wins due to people generally only having one "true" counter to...

not to say that you are wrong, but I've seen the Blizzspam team beat many good players(I like to stalk them) whose team does not have the strength to withstand the constant 120BP STAB moves. that's not to mention that if you alter certain portions of the team, e.g. adding Hairyama/Milotic/etc...

actually the most common Hail teams currently are just Snover+Dugtrio+a bunch of scarf Blizzard spammers. a lot of people copied WhiteQueen's team due to its relative success(it's also kind of fun to just switch to Glaceon and spam the fuck out of Blizzard).

huh? Rotom is around 10% usage and the only reason it's not higher is because it suffers competition from Mismagius and Spiritomb, each of which fill different niches. the set you're using is like a status platform with Substitue; if you're using Discharge I'd imagine that Will o Wisp would...

this last page has caused this to become the best thread on Smogon that I've ever read (even though I cannot help but think that the vitriolic nature of these posts are fabricated). I think Flareblitz has a good idea in initiating something similar to the research week threads; testing out cool...

can anyone please expound upon how this metagame is any more or less stale than others? I've only been UU battling since, er, early April, but going through the usage statistic threads(January-March, and June) Venusaur has been above 20% usage, and up to about the 15-18th most used pokes, they...

yep. :P I originally used it solely as a primarily late game cleaner but it is a good early game scout as well.