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I think I would just wait before using Char Y too quickly if I see Poli. If I see Ty, I'm gonna predict their switch and ram them with a focus blast (or a flame charge for an easy speed boost, and then focus blast next turn)

Charizard will be a solid Pokemon in OU. (and there's no more talking about Charizard without talking about his Mega's. They're a part of him now). Charizard X is a power house in both offenses with a really unique type and can take advantage of Charizards immunity to Ground/resistance to...

Charizard can get Fire Punch in one of the other games from a Move Tutor, and Pokebank will let you transfer from it I believe. Unless GameFreak uses some sort of restriction. You can test Fire Punch on Pokemon Showdown in Pokebank OU, if you want. It won't be usable in the actual game until...

You could. I'd probably just use Sticky Web support on a team with Belly Zard X, though. Or you could use both and sweep even the choice scarfers like a god Dragon. I don't know what the Calcs would be for Flame Charge, though.

Outrage and Flare Blitz are better for a DDancer Zard X, I feel. (Though Dragon Claw works great there too). For a Belly Drum Zard X, I'd probably use Dragon Claw and Fire Punch. Most things are going to die horribly to those at +6 anyway.

By the way..how do we get perfect IV's on Pokemon? I never got into that before, but it's starting to get on my nerves in the game. (Not showdown, as we run perfect IV's in all areas by default)

and Haxorus is susceptible to the increasingly common Fairy, Ice and other Dragons. Mold Breaker is nice but that speed hurts him. He does have a stronger earthquake but he only gets one STAB. Charizard is also not susceptible to Earthquake. You don't have to MEvo it right away depending on...

Just a tip that people might know already - When using Charizard X, if you expect the opponent to use earthquake, you don't have to Mega evolve that same turn. If you're a Dragon Dancer Zard X, then just use Dragon Dance on the first turn as Charizard, and earthquake won't affect you. It's an...

Overheat is good for mixed and if you plan on attacking then switching out really fast, but otherwise I prefer Fire Blast.

Char Y and Venasaur are best friends now. What would be the best defog mon for Char Y on a sun team, though? Starmie is great, but sometimes you have those Spin Blockers and they just read you like a book until you kill it.

It's mainly for Azumaril, which is seeing a lot of play lately due to it's new Fairy type. It's such a hard counter against X, being both resistant to Fire and immune to Dragon. Unless, of course, you run Thunder Punch. Jellicent is also kind of annoying and it's nice to surprise users of it...

We're never going to get the thread away from comparing X and Y unless we stop bringing it up, so let's move on shall we? I'm not sure if Roost/Substitute is a good option for either Zard, but I haven't tested them out yet. I hesitate to use them on Y more than X, though - Just because...

That's because it is. Don't be afraid to call it out, that doesn't make you a fanboy. Though, that doesn't mean it was made to be a fully serious representation of the thread anyway, so I wouldn't be bothered by it. It's all in good fun.

That's another nice thing about Char Y. As a lead, being a Mega with Drought means it can't lose against another weather lead, which does happen to the others sometimes.

So, in other words, I'm a hypocrite because I brought up Drought not having anything to do with Y Zard's type and how it's not correct to mark off it's water weakness simply because of that? I'm bringing up Drought because people are factoring it in to his type, so therefore I have to discuss...

I think Mence can get Outrage once Pokebank comes around though, right? But until then it's out of luck, lol. Not to mention Char X is neutral to Fairy and Ice, which helps a lot. Yeah, Char doesn't get Draco for now but he at least gets the fire ones, and has a higher sp. atk than Mence to boot.

X doesn't have any 4x weaknesses and has more neutral coverage. He may not be resistant to as many things as Y but he has better STABs, can't be countered as easily due to his type and not having reliance on Drought, and will still be neutral to water moves even if there's no Drought on the...

Does that mean Showdown Char X is actually hitting weaker than what he's suppose to? What is the assumed percentage in place for the simulator? Very nice confirmation, though.

But I just wanna say this: Y still kicks ass. I've been using both Mega Zard's in OU Pokebank a lot lately, and both of them feel right at home there.

My Char X at +1 is all I need. He can OHKO a lot and 2HKO most others, as well as outspeed most things. What I don't like about Y is that with the weather nerf and no heat rock, he is too easily countered and too short. People will wisen up to him a bit. When Char Y comes out, run a Poli or...