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  1. Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v5 (usage in post #547)

    Regenerator is nice but I doubt it matches what offenses get tbh. There is a reason we haven't sent non-legendary pokemon to ubers purely on its defensive presence since forever.
  2. Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v5 (usage in post #547)

    I believe pure stall did change quite a lot in the later generations and have to actually play for momentum from time to time, since the win con of walling the opponent team forever is no longer a feasible option with the ever increasing list of powerful wallbreakers. Instead pure-stall have...
  3. Resource Simple Questions, Simple Answers Thread (read the op before posting a thread)

    "Bird Spam" became a thing in the last generation when people ran Talonflame and Staraptor together to smash through Rotom-W, hence, "bird" spam. The name developed over time to include other Fly-spam teams. And yeah before Talonflame we really did not have that powerful of a Fly-STAB attack in...
  4. Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    Wait, are you sure you are not just spamming all kinda of the meta trends and call it "really, really bad for XXX"? Kyurem-B could hardly switch in, and if it does it blows through anything imaginable anyway. Lele is deterred from clicking its choiced psych STAB. You are making sweeping...
  5. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread v4

    Just always have it in mind that a new meta is generally more diverse than a settled one because people takes time to test out new stuffs....
  6. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread v4

    145 base attack + 100 base power Earthquake > 150 base attack + 80 base power Shadow Ball, I mean yeah 150 attack is amazing can you not forget AS's highest power move sits at 80 base power? With Intimitate, max def Land-T's physical effective defense sits at 382*306*1.5 = 175338, while max...
  7. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread v4

    Obviously I know Aegislash has good defense and offense, but when asked why Bolt is able to be the fastest human in the world you don't start with "well Bolt has two legs which has blah blah blah vs people with one....." Also, "wrap the tier around itself"/"make things not viable by existing"...
  8. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread v4

    I think I can give you an answer that satisfies you. Aegislash was actually banned because of King's Shield's attack drop, otherwise it is a fine pokemon. Genesect is better than Land-T because Genesect can kill multiple poke in the same game, while Land-T can only use Z-move once. Also...
  9. Announcement np: SM OU Suspect Process, Round 5 - I Can't Escape Myself (ARENA TRAP BANNED)

    As someone generally interested in meta development I think I can answer you a bit. Before anything, while Smogon is about as serious a meta discussion forum as you can find on the Internet, it is still far from perfect. Unreasonable compaints that commonly occurs in stuffs like Reddit also...
  10. Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    Volcarona should drop to A Volcarona is still the threatening mon it was, but recent meta trends is not favourable for the bug. While Volcarona can still theoretically break through any of its checks, in practice there are just too much things your volc has to prepare for when so much of those...
  11. Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    Since the Keldeo discussion is getting really messy, I would like to talk a bit about Keldeo as well. There seem to be very little dispute that the common Keldeo sets right now, namely scarf and spec, are clearly not enough to let it stay at A. And the CM/taunt/Z-hydro is the dispute. In two...
  12. Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    No one even talked about bouncing hazards in the last page and this is pretty much a strawman argument.
  13. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread v4

    Mew is a defensive threat, you beat it by not allowing it to switch in, not by switching into it safely.
  14. Metagame Mega Evolution in Sun & Moon

    I mean if you read carefully enough I was at no point claiming that Diancie would be amazing at the current meta, I was claiming Diancie is a mon we should always watch out for because she is a busted mon in a vacuum. ICYMI we are NOT at the viability thread, so I see no reason to not talk a bit...
  15. Metagame Mega Evolution in Sun & Moon

    Strong stats, broken ability, above-average offensive typing with reasonable coverage, and a usable defensive typing. Power creeps did erode on her advantage though. Obviously pokes do not exist in a vacuum, but being a strong poke in a vacuum is always a big step into being great in the meta.
  16. Metagame Mega Evolution in Sun & Moon

    SR is a very important niche indeed in the current meta, though Diancie herself does not feel to me like the best rock abuser tbh. It would be interesting if SR Diancie opens up whole new ways to build teams. Afterall she is still a rather busted poke.
  17. Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    Ice punch does less damage to Tang than HJK IIRC, did you mean Land-T?
  18. Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    I think you are misunderstanding the argument going around. While Volcanoran requires defog support badly, most properly built team requires it anyway. The fact that you are going to need defog with or without the bug means SR weakness is a lot less detrimental than it otherwise would be. I...
  19. Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    I think the key is although there are not a lot of reasons to do so Pelipper actually has a lot of merit to be used even without the swimmers (and it is not completely uncommon to drop one of the two) while the opposite is obviously not true.
  20. Resource SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

    I think you have misunderstood my point. I was responding specifically to the comment of Gary of dropping a couple poke in A+ so that Zygarde does not look so out of place. And my opinion is that if this is really an issue it would be better to put Zygarde at S-. It seems that this is just the...
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