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  1. Ubers is now a tier; a new Metagame called Anything Goes is added; M-Ray is banned from Ubers

    Absolutely nothing, since Anything Goes is a tier where there will be no bans. Chaos said it himself. There's never going to be bans from that tier, with the exception of endless battle clause.
  2. Other Don't use that, use this [XY OU Edition]

    I'm not saying Mola is bad or Vaporeon is better. I'm just saying don't call it a cleric when it's not :P
  3. Other Creative / Underrated Sets Thread (Read the thread, NO SHITTY GIMMICKS)

    Well, given how Custap Berry isn't obtainable in XY...you kinda don't need to worry about it, so that "niche" isn't really a niche that exists.
  4. Other Don't use that, use this [XY OU Edition]

    Not saying I disagree, but Alomomola isn't exactly a cleric since it can't heal status. It's just a wish passer. Slight nitpick.
  5. Official XY Ubers Gengarite Suspect Voting

    Ban I feel that Gengarite is both Broken and Uncompetitive, and that while being broken on its own isn't enough to get something banned from Ubers, being uncompetitive can be. Usually, though, uncompetitive elements only get banned if they are strong enough to become an issue. That is why...
  6. XY OU The Fish, the Pixie, and the Bell, a Tale of OU Stall

    Bump. Been testing AV Magnezone extensively and it's alright. I don't know if it's better than standard Heatran, which I could probably easily use since Celebi really does take care of Rotom-W well. No need for Taunt Gliscor is a huge pain, especially if it has Knock Off, since atm Magnezone...
  7. Gen 6 np: XY Ubers Gengarite Suspect Test - In The Shadows [READ POST #71]

    Ah, the thing is though, the argument that "this is ubers, so no ban" is just as stupid and irrelevant for the same reason. The fact that something could come about that would change their minds on that is why that logic is pointless. The pro-ban side believes that Mega Gengar is that something...
  8. Gen 6 np: XY Ubers Gengarite Suspect Test - In The Shadows [READ POST #71]

    Well, voting isn't over, the period to achieve reqs is over. If voting was over we'd have all placed our votes already :P
  9. Other XY OU Viability Ranking Thread (V3) (Rank changes are over until ORAS)

    Too bad that your greninja calcs don't factor in Protean. 252 SpA Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Dragonite: 364-432 (94.3 - 111.9%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO If Multiscale is broken, you're toast.
  10. Gen 6 np: XY Ubers Gengarite Suspect Test - In The Shadows [READ POST #71]

    Minority Suspect has a point. You either believe that no pokemon should ever be banned from Ubers (including anything gamefreak gives us in the future) or you believe banning pokemon in Ubers is acceptable. You can't say "no you can't ban a pokemon" and then go "oh, an auto-win pokemon has to go".
  11. Gen 6 np: XY Ubers Gengarite Suspect Test - In The Shadows [READ POST #71]

    I'd also like to point out that Wobbuffet does in fact have another ability. Telepathy. Yes, a useless ability, but it is a different ability.
  12. Other Creative / Underrated Sets Thread (Read the thread, NO SHITTY GIMMICKS)

    If you're planning on staying in to specifically tank special attacks, especially Super Effective ones, then going Calm with 252 SpD instead of Def is obviously the right call to make. The only calcs you would need to make is if you can get away with less SpD and can then put that into Def.
  13. Gen 6 np: XY Ubers Gengarite Suspect Test - In The Shadows [READ POST #71]

    alwayswimmin A Shadow Tag suspect is happening regardless of the result of the Gengarite suspect.
  14. Gen 6 np: XY Ubers Gengarite Suspect Test - In The Shadows [READ POST #71]

    And yet you used other buzzwords that actually don't apply to the discussion. And what you call semantics is actually crucial to this suspect, as this is a very serious decision and should not be taken without considerable thought put into your stance and your reasoning for that stance. That's...
  15. Gen 6 np: XY Ubers Gengarite Suspect Test - In The Shadows [READ POST #71]

    Sleep clause exists even in Ubers, I don't think you want to bring up sleep. As for the rest, they don't break a fundamental game mechanic, they don't stop the mechanic from working entirely, they just alter it or bend it, as it were. Pursuit doesn't prevent a switch, just changes priority...
  16. Gen 6 np: XY Ubers Gengarite Suspect Test - In The Shadows [READ POST #71]

    Thank you for your input...but it doesn't really further the dicusssion of the past page and a half. You don't address the uncompetitive aspect of the ban at all, you focus entirely on the broken aspect and really don't add anything besides anecdotes, which as we should all know by now, mean...
  17. Gen 6 np: XY Ubers Gengarite Suspect Test - In The Shadows [READ POST #71]

    9 Tales of Ninetales Sorry, I was unclear again. I meant the more liberal definition in your "hidden" post. Though, upon reading it again, maybe j was mistaken in saying that's my definition. For me, uncompetitivness arises if certain conditions are met. A) Excessive RNG B) Easily abusable C)...
  18. XY OU Battle at the Pantheon: Where Titans Clash

    How much more damage on the physical end though? Is it also 6-9%? If its higher, say 10-15%, then wouldn't the trade off for mixed bulk by worth it?
  19. Gen 6 np: XY Ubers Gengarite Suspect Test - In The Shadows [READ POST #71]

    Sorry I didn't make it clear enough in that post, I stated in multiple earlier posts that I am firmly pro-ban. What I meant by that last part is I'm not sure just how broken Gengarite and Shadow Tag are, but I am sure that its uncompetitive and too close to broken (if it isnt actually broken) to...
  20. XY OU Battle at the Pantheon: Where Titans Clash

    If you're not using a special attack on Absol anymore, then you can run Jolly and relocate those SpA EVs. Also, with azumarill, what's the difference in bulk between having those SpD EVs relocated to HP? I know AV boosts the gain from the EVs too, but Azumarill isn't Conkeldurr, it doesn't have...
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