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  1. np: OU Suspect Testing Round 1 - ...wait, I'm not Jumpman16!

    Rain is broken, not the abusers. Rain has so many abusers, to neuter rain to the point where it isn't going to destroy a non-weather team would require banning half a dozen or more pokes. Sun is probably broken too, but the fact that rain is so much better keeps it from being used often. Sand...
  2. Regigigas

    Not if you OHKO something then switch out with banded return.
  3. Kyurem

    The difference between Swampert and Kyurem is clearly in typing. Swampert has excellent defensive typing and resists rock, Kyurem wishes he were just dragon, ice has redundant coverage with dragon and only helps him take other ice types, while making him weak to stealth rock. Kyurem is...
  4. Kyurem

    Which is done better by Lati@s as well as Sazandora Mildly useful at best, seeing as it does barely any damage to common kyremu switches, you might as well just meteor/blizzard, also, speed boosting moves are better in most situations It is Ice type, therefore, it does not have awesome...
  5. Moody

    I have a pretty reasonable win rate with that team, which consists of only Smeargle and Garchomp, and I have a match against a less stupid opponent too. Battle between Rhiehn and Viscus started! Tier: Dream World Variation: +11, -20 Rule: Rated Rule: Sleep Clause Rule: Species Clause...
  6. Moody

    Battle between Lio and Rhiehn started! Tier: Dream World Variation: +13, -18 Rule: Rated Rule: Sleep Clause Rule: Species Clause Rhiehn sent out Smeargle! Lio sent out Forretress! Start of turn 1 Smeargle used Spore! The foe's Forretress fell asleep! The foe's Forretress is...
  7. Chandelure

    You'd be have an even better rank if you used heatran instead. The only reason you should ever use flash fire shandera over heatran is if you really need a spinblocker, Heatran is good because of bulk and resistances, his offensive power is only a bonus. Significant dropping in bulk and...
  8. Deoxys-D

    No. Replace Porygon with Phione and Deoxys with Smeargle. Deoxys is still better than Porygon2, because porygon2 has a very shallow support movepool, while deoxys-D has a vast support movepool.
  9. Dusclops

    The stone only increases by 30% on second stage evolutions.
  10. Salamence

    Am I missing something or is overconfidence illegal with Dragon dance, because Dragon Dance is an egg move? If that's the case, then I would pick intimidate, personally.
  11. OverPower - The Reason why Average Pokés are going to lose space in Gen V teams.

    Garchomp is better than every single new poke besides the >600 BSTs, except maybe shanderaa.
  12. Haxorus

    What does he do that Garchomp doesn't do better? Garchomp can make use of Fire blast and Draco meteor to take out the physical walls better than Ono, and otherwise it doesn't really matter. Dragon dance sets are all I can see this being good for.
  13. The First Smogon Council - Salamence

    If you get outpredicted, it kills something. That's not exactly exclusive to Mence. Play around Mence, don't give him the chance to come in for free, if you play your cards right, he won't, Saying "if my opponent outplays me and gets mence in with no damage he almost always gets a kill if he...
  14. Pokemon specific bans in OU

    Banning Yache Berry/Swords Dance on Garchomp would only cause him to replace Flygon and increase the need for a bulky steel on your team. I could see how banning Outrage/Meteor on Mence/Latias could work and keep them from being broken, but they'd still centralize, because they'd still be the...
  15. Prevailing attitudes regarding OU as being the "Best"

    Well, if a pokémon needs all the best 'mon banned for it to survive, it's not the best... I've never really understood why anyone would want to play OU. I have absolutely nothing against OU 'mon, mind, but surely it's much more satisfying to win with UU/OU 'mon in Ubers, than having to ban a...
  16. The First Smogon Council - Salamence

    The standard Tank set for Regirock is a counter for Mix/DDmence in the ever present Sandstorm, and Cresselia counters him as well. Neither are very good in OU, but it's not totally obscure like various attempts at countering SDYachechomp.
  17. The First Smogon Council - Salamence

    Mence isn't "unpredictable". The overwhelming majority of Mence sets have Outrage, EQ and Fire Blast, the only thing you don't know is if it's got Meteor or DD. Mence can't magically get a free kill just by coming out, Mence needs to do just as much prediction as his opponents, if you outplay...
  18. Bye bye Latias! Bring in the apes...

    Suicune, Vaporeon and Bulky Gyara don't have too many problems with Infernape, and they're all used enough to keep it from tearing through teams.
  19. Do we really need the Uber tier (Question for Standard)??

    The metagame would probably consist of current Ubers, Steels, Ttar, Blissey and a few select things such as Shedinja or Parasect for stopping Kyogre.
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