Oh ok he's not getting voted whew
BGB had one vote at the time shub voted for them, so calling BGB a competing wagon is inaccurate imo. I did say that they had an angle onto Former if they *really* needed it but lets be honest, if they ever took it after voting for BGB shub probably gets lynched for being survivalist right? So the BGB was a harder commit than you're giving it credit for, I think.votes bluegummybear to join the counterwagon against them, while also stating that former is their second option they'd like voted off. if they're indifferent to getting voted off as they say they are, why put the two counterwagons as their most preferred members to vote off?
the fact that you didn't see this bugs me
Once, I think?SB. Have you played with Uto before?
You think they can be both town?I always vote BGB over shub here ftr but I think it's L-1 so I refrain for now.
the reason i'm changing my opinions a lot is because i overthink everything and am finding the game very difficult to get into -- i think about different scumteams etc and post walls of text that are often live processing of my thoughts - if you think i post a lot here, wait til you see how much i've been spamming nuxl's private message chat with thoughts and potential scumteams.Biggest point of the reread so far is that I didn't realise how much Eagle was changing his opinions, like, all game. I knew he was going through lots of solves rn which is NAI but earlier his reads on shub and to a lesser extent Former seemed to shift more based on convenience of them being available wagons ig. Also I get kinda weird vibes from "Former has no reason to lie" as a reaction to the cop guilty? It's like "this is the correct play" which feels like it gives an easy out if Former retracted the claim.
Eagle, why did your opinion on shub change between here and here? I don't think shub had a single post between these points so it's weird to me that you're suddenly chill with them being lynched with your main point against it being that they're a low info lynch instead of the townread you had on them earlier.
i mean fair i mentioned that it would be an ideal situation for maf if tommy vs former is t/t but i didn't think it was -- but again, this feels like a weird point to make because that's exactly what you did by voting former and going 'actually i gave dusk too much of a free pass let's look into that', only i'm openly doing it while you're doing it while trying to look like you're not doing it. did you forget that you did this? it's as if you're sreading me for something you also did because you're maf and forgot that you did this - i think a town you remembers what you do itg. barely mentioned shub because i didn't really have a read on them, was kind of set on getting former out because T v S logic dictated that there'd be a 100% chance we voted out maf on D1 or D2. i voiced the 'already lost if tommy and former is tvt' because was under the impression, prob selfishly, we'd vote off dusk D2 if former was town, and if dusk also turned out to be town then yeah we would've lost. ironically i told myself i wasn't gonna be swayed by dusk re: i thought his gameplan would be to guilttrip everyone into not voting for him but now i'm so goddamn uncertain of everythingMade it to the end of D1.
Eagle pushed one scum in Tommy/Former hard at phase end yesterday to the point that I'm worried because it looks like lining up lynches if Tommy really is town. I'm also very iffy on how they handled shub at phase end (they barely mentioned them) despite seeming to waffle a bit on Former and if it was correct + there's the "if Tommy and Former is TvT we've already lost" line which feels like another "correct play" justification thing for their actions. I wanna recheck how they handled Tommy today bc I know they've since shifted off of Tommy but kinda just skimmed their posts earlier because I was townreading them.
again, if only you could see how frequently my mind changes - once the game's over i can send screenshots of my PM chat with nuxl if you'd like, i've got about 10 different scumteams swimming around up thereVote: Eagle4
This is basically where D2 lands me. Eagle starts the day asking a bunch of people to vote Tommy (but gets almost no interest) and then eventually shifts to BGB who they didn't really seem to be interested at the end of phase yesterday. Same with their read on shub. It feels like their reads are kinda convenient with how they keep changing (especially the shub read on D1) and while I get that changing your mind happens it's like, it seems to happen with too much frequency and too neatly with a possible scumteam they've been thinking of. I feel like if they were changing their mind so much they would be lost on teams and less focused on one of X/Y being scum which is an easy way to line up a later lynch.