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13p Matrix 14 (No Multiball) Game Thread [GAME OVER]

Duskfall98 said:
Your logic here defends the fact that someone having more townreads makes them scummier.

I have more partner potentials if I was scum because I am town, and have more town reads, and am more largely townread. Because I'm town.
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I get your second line and you second line is definitely something I'm considering and weighing and it's part of why this decision is so flipping hard. I don't understand your first line in the least.
 
HeaLnDeaL said:
yeah but you saying that I am lynched right after m2h crosses the line from speaking the truth to intimidating me, trying to make me panic and feel like THIS is the only day vote than can save me in the future. I don't feel like that's necessarily the case and if you're actually town you'd want me to live as town even if I misread today's situation because if I don't live as town then town is fucked.
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I'm not trying to buy your vote here, I'm just trying to solve the game and I'm not going to change my solve to try buy your vote because you think it's intimidating, sorry
 
You can vote the town pr to try save yourself if you want, but it doesn't really matter because my reads are flipping tonight regardless either as the lynch or the nightkill. My thoughts don't matter from here forward in regards to carrying the game, this is my last day. I have no reason to intimidate you not would I try, I you want to omgus me feel free but that's on you
 
Maybe that's why m2h hasn't tried solve all day except shade me and ate, he's scum and he doesn't need to try solve properly because his thoughts don't matter post death.

Saying me and hal might be partners doesn't count as solving because he's just trying to find an excuse to lynch me
 
Duskfall98 said:
Maybe that's why m2h hasn't tried solve all day except shade me and ate, he's scum and he doesn't need to try solve properly because his thoughts don't matter post death.

Saying me and hal might be partners doesn't count as solving because he's just trying to find an excuse to lynch me
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you are literally doing the same thing you are accusing me of.
 
Dusk I 100% don't buy the argument that you came in yesterday and didn't even know about m2h's claim. I also think hal's recounting of the event shrugging it off as m2h making an end of day PR claim where there was no time to CC was sort of a revisionist history and it really wasn't THAT close to deadline.

I can buy the argument that you knew about the claim but didn't want to CC quite yet so you could survive the night and hopefully get info. But ugh, we could have lynched m2h yesterday if you CC'd, and now we're in the same position with the same amount of information with 1 day less to actually solve.

Dusk being scum makes the game still pretty non-linear to solve, m2h being scum makes it more straightforward.

This is hard. And I'm in a position once again where my vote literally doesn't matter unless all of the other non voters and I actually agree on something and it feels like that's hard to do.

Also wtf, bluedoom not being in my scum team consideration list seems to be a mistake. Not sure who I'd put him with since he's been so quiet. Something like a Blue + Moody + Louder Person might make sense with blue, but then in that scenario louder person has to be dusk or m2h... blah this is so dumb, I don't have the information or the reads I need to actually do anything and all my gut impulses are completely stopped by other factors in the game, whether its other townies disagreeing with me or just not sure which train of logic to follow.
 
Like how can you just deny all my attempts at solving just because im trying to get you lynched. Its mechanically correct for me to be doing that because I know you're mafia
 
If dusk is scum, then I also need to consider that the scum team is literally willing to throw dusk to the wolves for a sort of bus situation. Which scummates would want to throw dusk away like this? wouldn't there be better people to throw away?
 
I don't have a hard count on this, but I feel like prior to the PR claim, more people townread dusk than m2h, and m2h could have been seen by the scum team as compromised so the risk of him claiming PR wasn't very high?
 
HeaLnDeaL said:
Dusk I 100% don't buy the argument that you came in yesterday and didn't even know about m2h's claim. I also think hal's recounting of the event shrugging it off as m2h making an end of day PR claim where there was no time to CC was sort of a revisionist history and it really wasn't THAT close to deadline.

I can buy the argument that you knew about the claim but didn't want to CC quite yet so you could survive the night and hopefully get info. But ugh, we could have lynched m2h yesterday if you CC'd, and now we're in the same position with the same amount of information with 1 day less to actually solve.

Dusk being scum makes the game still pretty non-linear to solve, m2h being scum makes it more straightforward.

This is hard. And I'm in a position once again where my vote literally doesn't matter unless all of the other non voters and I actually agree on something and it feels like that's hard to do.

Also wtf, bluedoom not being in my scum team consideration list seems to be a mistake. Not sure who I'd put him with since he's been so quiet. Something like a Blue + Moody + Louder Person might make sense with blue, but then in that scenario louder person has to be dusk or m2h... blah this is so dumb, I don't have the information or the reads I need to actually do anything and all my gut impulses are completely stopped by other factors in the game, whether its other townies disagreeing with me or just not sure which train of logic to follow.
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I'm not going to try convince you of something that didn't happen, if you don't want to believe the truth, then don't
 
Duskfall98 said:
Do you think changing someone I will never be in a position to lynch ever to a scumread, benefits me as scum? Regardless of my alignment I will not be around to lynch anyone but m2h
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MewtwoHidden said:
Blue could very well be the third in dusk/half/+1 for the horrible flip from dusk to me after the dusk claim.
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You know you're flames when you teach the scum how to play midgame and they pick up your lessons in a few posts
 
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