1600+ Shell Smash = Win!

[Unchained1]

SHELLSMASH PLZ!​

(18:44:57) ±Porygon: Your rank in Wifi OU is 10/103148 [1616 points / 100 battles]!
Need I say more really? I have destroyed the best in Beta with 6-0 results using what this community calls a NU pokemon want to know more? Ive used a fun team to start with(by fun I mean a team that can win matches in less than 10 shots against almost anyone) and it got to ridiculous levels with no real core and lots of lols. Peaking at 1600+ and hitting top 10 in Wifi OU this team has been my favorite in all of pokemon and the only reason im posting it is because of the release of BW2 and soon enough random nubs and scrubs will be claiming they came up with my ideas(and actually getting it to work consistently).​

So anyway for my awesome team to work Rain is basically needed(although not always).​

Ok to start off Im using perma rain only choice is Politoed and I want it to survive a few hits so bulk and leftovers is my choice here. I also wanted to get my attacks powerful enough to damage opponents so I sacrificed any speed(which gives me choice of weather most of the time as a lead) for Spec Att.​

Now a pokemon that can take a electric weakness out of the equasion, abuses weather, counters opposing weather to an extent and has acess to recovery. The evs in spec att give it the extra boost to take care of some counters and switch ins with predictions and still alot of bulk similar to politoad.​

Grass problem? K my wall comes in here with a 4x resistance against grass, fire is neutral in rain so only the one weakness in electric is awesome to deal with in this team. It sets up hazards purely and walls thats its job and it works how it should.​

Spinner time Starmie is where its at! Abuses weather, awesome movepool, speed to revenge almost anything non scarfed and life orb to destroy teams!​

Specs Tornadus... switch in a non steel type plz I dare you! Just about 2hkos everything, U turn to scout and a suprise for ttar if you think you can just switch in with ease!​

Ok the All star of the Team and what everything is built around.. What we here at smogon call a NU pokemon that destroys the Meta...
Its name is Whorebliss because come unprepared and lose simple. What you have a bpass team? Cool lead Poli switch to Gore and spore doesnt do $hit, shell smash and win. This pokemon makes people run bulky water pokemon or get your pants pulled down.​

Like I said this team is to abuse everything I can in 1 team under rain that ruins stall based teams in minimum shots as possible while enjoying every single moment.​

MY POGEYMANS:

Politoed
(GayFrog)
@ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 76 HP / 96 Def / 252 SAtk / 56 SDef / 28 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Scald
- Hypnosis (Toxic or Hp Grass options)
- Ice Beam
- Haze
I will lead with this unless I am battling opposing Weather where ill start with either Tornadus or Skarmory. Max Bulk and Spec att is a must with leftovers giving this Toad extra bulk, add in Hypnosis and Scald to troll status with stab Scald making considerable damage to switch ins not named Blissey. Adding Ice beam is a must for those dragons and has great coverage. Haze straightout ruins Baton Pass Teams.
Thinking of changing Hypnosis for toxic or Hidden Power Grass thanks to input from Gamester​

Gastrodon
(Slut Slug)
@ Leftovers
Trait: Storm Drain
EVs: 20 HP / 152 Def / 252 SAtk / 80 SDef / 4 Speed
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Earth Power (Toxic)
- Scald
Awesome pokemon that can switch into alot of pokemon to activate storm drain and gives volturn teams problems everywhere. Ofc im careful of grass attacks and hp grass from Rotom-W but getting tricked an item doesnt do much to stop a max spec att gastro spamming stab scalds in rain.Great team pokemon all round. Ice Beam to damage dragons like the dreaded Dragonite! Earth Power for coverage against opposing water pokemon. Evs give it bulk to take a outrage/banded ccombat from terrakon at full hp and return ohko it, the 4 speed evs make it outspeed other gastros when needed.
Dropping Spec Att evs for Def and adding toxic over earth power is an option also.​

Skarmory
(Porii)
@ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes ( Brave Bird )
- Roost
- Whirlwind
This thing walls anything physical not called OP Terrakon using Close combat(or even Lucario spamming the same thing well generally anything spamming a stab close combat)its main purpose is to set up hazards (Stealth Rock 1st) and forces switches to wear down everything to help sweep. Walls scarfed and Banded Dragons just being careful of Magnezones running around but still Sturdy still allows me getting a layer of Spikes down when needed. Pretty standard but does its job of walling and hazards.
Brave Bird and Rocky Helmet can also work really well together in this set.​

Starmie
(Specs Hoe)
@ Life Orb
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Rapid Spin
- Thunder
- Ice Beam
- Surf ( Hydro Pump if you dont mind missing)
Rapid spinner that sweeps when needed?This pokemon enjoys the rain like no other abusing it with rain and stab boosted Surfs dealing awesome damage with Thunder taking out opposing bulky water pokemon and taking down opposing dragons with Ice Beam with that awesome speed!
Leftovers and Expert Belt are also really helpfill items with recovering a bit of life incase of hazards damage and Expert Belt faking the Specs set.​

Tornadus
(All I Do)
@ Choice Specs
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -Spec Def)
- U Turn ( Air Slash)
- Hurricane
- Hammer Arm
- Hidden Power Ice
All I Do is Hurricane!!!(unless ttar opposing then hammer arm suprise and weather win lololo) U Turn lead works well against defensive pokemon to avoid trouble and scout opposing team switches, HP Ice takes care of Dragonite and Salamence before boosts but sets there mainly for coverage because All I Do is....
Also Expert Belt is an awesome option if running a Shell Smash/ Baton Pass Gorebyss for awesome sweeping potential with Air Slash over U Turn as mentioned by Jeevs and Gamester.​

Gorebyss
(WhoreBy$$)
@ White Herb
Trait: Hydration
EVs: 56 HP / 252 SAtk / 200 Spd
Modest nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Shell Smash
- Rest
- Ice Beam ( Baton Pass)
- Surf
This has set new standards of shell smash, easy shell smash gives you awesome power of 718 Spec Att!!! Shell Smash and Surf = win(almost).
It even 2hkos politoad/ferrothorn/RotomW/Gastro/Tentacruel with Surf so vaporeon with water absorb and roar or Jellicent are the only trouble that you have to seriously watch out for and in wifi OU you will know when to shell smash to set up a decent sweep. Ice Beam is there for those annoying dragons and Grass types that switch in thinking they will ohko Gorebyss eating a suprise Ice Beam causes rage! Hydration stops spores/ toxic spikes/ toxic/ para/ hypnosis and lets you abuse rest with decent bulk after a shell smash(with white herb activated) so you see blissey/chansey switch in and win!
Baton Pass can work extremely well as an option for Ice Beam or Rest to keep up the sweeping potential!​

CONCLUSION:
Theres the team of pr0 smashing in rain with just enough balance to let it be a threat to any team! It has its flaws and can be adjusted to be slightly better for some standard play but theres the team to look, admire, critisize and comment!​

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Importable:
Gay Frog (Politoed) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 76 HP / 96 Def / 252 SAtk / 56 SDef / 28 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Hypnosis
- Haze

Porii (Skarmory) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes
- Roost
- Whirlwind

WhoreBly$$ (Gorebyss) (M) @ White Herb
Trait: Hydration
EVs: 56 HP / 252 SAtk / 200 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Shell Smash
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Rest

All I Do (Tornadus) (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Hurricane
- U-turn
- Hammer Arm
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Specs Hoe (Starmie) @ Life Orb
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Rapid Spin
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Surf

Slut Slug (Gastrodon) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Storm Drain
EVs: 20 HP / 152 Def / 252 SAtk / 80 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Earth Power
- Scald

THREATS:

Dugtrio- Traps my Politoad and can KO it or damage it atleast with hypnosis and burns also.

Gastrodon- Its a troll to my team best bet is politoad hypnosising it or Tornadus 2hkoing it. Gorebyss can destroy defencive types setting up and sweeping

Celebi- Trolls bad need to get a faster poke to KO it like Tornadus

Quagsire- Troll but still even poli/starmie/gorebyss own it

Jolteon- absorbs thunders but still weak to gastro

Abomasnow- Weather :/

Conkeldurr- Hes a decent threat

Landorus- In sand is a troll

Reuniclus- Trick room mainly so looking at a 2hko from tornadus or starmie ifnot gastro

Cloyster- Annoying but poli ohkos it

Ninetails- Weather :/

Toxicroak- Water no effect so its a pain gastro and tornadus

Breloom- LOL <\3 Breloom

Ditto- GTFO Ditto noob

Ludicolo- Swift Swim is epic on this with LO

Rotom-W- Scarf Troll

Tyranitar- Weather :/

Blissey- Spec Wall but Gorebyss owns it

Chansey- Same as above

Ferrothorn- <\3 Ferro

Porygon2- Eviolite is a pain gastro is best bet or hypnosis/ starmie/ tornadus 2hkos

Skarmory- Say Thunder

Vaporeon- As above!

Well that took ages and I probably wont do another RMT for a while but yeah thats my team thanks everyone that reads this it shouldnt bore you that much.

 

[White Light]

Heck yeah bro too pro! Posted the team :D Got that top 20 on Beta with that rain!! Loving the hydration smash Gorebyss, pro NU!! But yeah dude in all honesty the team has great coverage and the only problem I can see with this team is that losing rain would be a real drag since a lot being rain dependant. But otherwise with pro prediction (like you always do) the team is definitely solid and fits your playstyle :P Overall pro team bro!! Swag.

 

[Unchained1]

Heck yeah bro too pro! Posted the team :D Got that top 20 on Beta with that rain!! Loving the hydration smash Gorebyss, pro NU!! But yeah dude in all honesty the team has great coverage and the only problem I can see with this team is that losing rain would be a real drag since a lot being rain dependant. But otherwise with pro prediction (like you always do) the team is definitely solid and fits your playstyle :P Overall pro team bro!! Swag.

Thanks br0!!! Too true about the rain thats my biggest problem but all good I guess its time to adjust it here and there see what i can do!!! :D
Thanks again bro! :)

 

[Razza]

your descriptions are really short, seems like this is basically a "boast about my ladder ranking and get all my clan "bros" congratulating me on my success thread" rather than a team you actaully want rated. ( youve even luvdisced it yourself)

HP grass rotom-w will run right through you if it has some adequate team support, opposing bulky waters like vaporeon and jellicent give your team a great deal of trouble it seems considering the amount of offensive water types you utilize. Most of your problems will probably stem from the fact you carry lots of specially offensive threats and lots of water types. You might want to consider a breloom or something similar to bring some complementary offensive synergy to your team. Expert Belt abomasnow also takes you to the cleaners.

 

[Unchained1]

your descriptions are really short, seems like this is basically a "boast about my ladder ranking and get all my clan "bros" congratulating me on my success thread" rather than a team you actaully want rated. ( youve even luvdisced it yourself)

HP grass rotom-w will run right through you if it has some adequate team support, opposing bulky waters like vaporeon and jellicent give your team a great deal of trouble it seems considering the amount of offensive water types you utilize. Most of your problems will probably stem from the fact you carry lots of specially offensive threats and lots of water types. You might want to consider a breloom or something similar to bring some complementary offensive synergy to your team. Expert Belt abomasnow also takes you to the cleaners.

Thats what most of these RMTs are why wouldnt i like my own team hitting 1600 with a NU poke? O.o
Anyway you are correct about Rotom W if it was more common running hp grass it hurts my team worse than anything in the meta, Abomnasnow doesnt do much tbh with Tornadus being able to ohko it with Hurricane or hammer arm without getting kod by ice shard. Also I think writing generic info is pointless like do you want me to explain why I have rapid spin on starmie?
My team would benefit from something like breloom but what would I replace and would the benefits be outweighed by flaws?
Also I mainly posted this team because its my original team not a copy edited so people running around using gorebyss with shellsmash and surf in this team can't claim its their original idea but you didnt need to know that.

 

[Gamester]

@Razza - You should be nicer >:|

@Unchained1 - Very nice job hitting 1600 with the team I remember it 6-0'd a weatherless stall team of mine I just couldn't even touch your Gorebyss. I really like the way you use it here instead of smash pass.

I really like the haze choice over perish song on Politoed since you already have a phazer. On the other hand I really don't like Hypnosis as a personal bias against the move.

That's an interesting Gastrodon and I feel you should opt for a more specially defensive set so you have a more solid defensive core and maybe adding in Toxic somewhere over something .-.

For Starmie I think you should either try to replace one of your current slots with recover or opt for using Hydro Pump>Surf and running lefties to give Starmie a bit more longevity

I feel Focus Blast is definitely the better option over Hammer Arm on Tornadus since it's much less situational and nails plenty of other stuff a lot harder.

Now on to the monster that is Gorebyss! I really think you should test Baton Pass over Ice Beam because if you decide to run a lefties Starmie you'll have fantastic coverage and resist 2 of the 3 most common priority types while still being able to take even a banded Extremespeed from Dragonite. Or you could pass to Tornadus and DESTROY everything and have something to pass too when Ferrothorn comes in or even Gastrodon if something like a Rotom-W comes in with specs Thunder or something.

Good Job on the team! You might want to add some fuller descriptions and hide your importable :)

 

[Unchained1]

@Razza - You should be nicer >:|

@Unchained1 - Very nice job hitting 1600 with the team I remember it 6-0'd a weatherless stall team of mine I just couldn't even touch your Gorebyss. I really like the way you use it here instead of smash pass.

I really like the haze choice over perish song on Politoed since you already have a phazer. On the other hand I really don't like Hypnosis as a personal bias against the move.

That's an interesting Gastrodon and I feel you should opt for a more specially defensive set so you have a more solid defensive core and maybe adding in Toxic somewhere over something .-.

For Starmie I think you should either try to replace one of your current slots with recover or opt for using Hydro Pump>Surf and running lefties to give Starmie a bit more longevity

I feel Focus Blast is definitely the better option over Hammer Arm on Tornadus since it's much less situational and nails plenty of other stuff a lot harder.

Now on to the monster that is Gorebyss! I really think you should test Baton Pass over Ice Beam because if you decide to run a lefties Starmie you'll have fantastic coverage and resist 2 of the 3 most common priority types while still being able to take even a banded Extremespeed from Dragonite. Or you could pass to Tornadus and DESTROY everything and have something to pass too when Ferrothorn comes in or even Gastrodon if something like a Rotom-W comes in with specs Thunder or something.

Good Job on the team! You might want to add some fuller descriptions and hide your importable :)

Thanks Gamester! Ive updated it a bit more for detail ill add more tomorrow because its 1am here in Australia Land @.@
Love some of your ideas and you are right Hypnosis is a horrible move :/ Ill probably change it for toxic.
Focus Blast on Tornadus is another great idea ill see how it works out for a few battles to make sure I dont go flat out only Spec Attackers and fall.
Starmie Fails me with Hydro Pump well so did RotomW when I had it so im probably going to keep it for now and change a couple other things 1st.
Gorebyss what can I say Baton Pass is a great idea I suppose it comes down to swat pokemon can abuse it most ill look into it tomoz aswell bro thanks for the post! :)

 

[askjeevs]

hey chained, thanks for the link up, lets get started shall we

for Politoed, HP Grass or even Focus Blast is a better option over Hypnosis. HP Grass covering Rotom, and Focus Blast hitting Tyranitar and Ferrothorn on the switch in. Love the use of Haze over PS.

I actually vote against Toxic on Gastrodon. You've EV'd heavily in Sp.A, so it seems weird to me to have a status inducing move over another attack, but thats just me.

Skarm is fine as it is. i do enjoy running Brave Bird over Spikes from fear of Taunt, but if its working for you, then go for it.

Ill rate the last two together. Firstly, try giving Gorebyss an Baton Pass (over Ice Beam) so you can pass to both Starmie and Tornadus. Secondly, try running an Expert Belt on Tornadus, effectively feigning a Specs set, while giving you freedom to let a Smash Passed Tornadus let loose, without worrying about being locked into one move. (although i suppose +2 Specs Hurricane is going to OHKO everything)

hope it helps!

 

[Unchained1]

hey chained, thanks for the link up, lets get started shall we

for Politoed, HP Grass or even Focus Blast is a better option over Hypnosis. HP Grass covering Rotom, and Focus Blast hitting Tyranitar and Ferrothorn on the switch in. Love the use of Haze over PS.

I actually vote against Toxic on Gastrodon. You've EV'd heavily in Sp.A, so it seems weird to me to have a status inducing move over another attack, but thats just me.

Skarm is fine as it is. i do enjoy running Brave Bird over Spikes from fear of Taunt, but if its working for you, then go for it.

Ill rate the last two together. Firstly, try giving Gorebyss an Baton Pass (over Ice Beam) so you can pass to both Starmie and Tornadus. Secondly, try running an Expert Belt on Tornadus, effectively feigning a Specs set, while giving you freedom to let a Smash Passed Tornadus let loose, without worrying about being locked into one move. (although i suppose +2 Specs Hurricane is going to OHKO everything)

hope it helps!

Thanks Jeevs ill add hp grass on poli and see how it goes because rotom is a pest and ferro cant do much to skarmory atm(unless running thunder like I use to for skarmory and gyara lols).
Tornadus with Expert Belt seems the way to go with gore having baton pass so I will also give it a go with Poli. Any ideas for the tornadus moveset need changing U Turn maybe swap for something else for better coverage?
Il keep gastro how it is for now because ill run toxic or HP Grass on Poli.
Thanks for your input greatly appreciated! :)

 

[askjeevs]

i think the best option over U-Turn (although removing U-Turn, makes you look less likely to be running a specs set) would be Air Slash.

While not as powerful as Hurricane, Air Slash gives you an attacking option outside of Rain should you lose the weather war.

 

[Unchained1]

i think the best option over U-Turn (although removing U-Turn, makes you look less likely to be running a specs set) would be Air Slash.

While not as powerful as Hurricane, Air Slash gives you an attacking option outside of Rain should you lose the weather war.

Yeah good idea with it as a stab it will still do considerable damage and wont miss whenever I need it to land xD

 

[Trakyan]

what do you do against HP grass jolteon? random question but whatever. it outspeeds your whole team and im pretty sure OHKOs(with SR for skarm since sturdy) 5/6 with thunder, hp grass hurts your gastrodon. Dunno. I just spotted the electric weakness and jolteon came to mind(since rotom needs a scarf, jolteon just outspeeds and can switch moves).

 

[Unchained1]

what do you do against HP grass jolteon? random question but whatever. it outspeeds your whole team and im pretty sure OHKOs(with SR for skarm since sturdy) 5/6 with thunder, hp grass hurts your gastrodon. Dunno. I just spotted the electric weakness and jolteon came to mind(since rotom needs a scarf, jolteon just outspeeds and can switch moves).

Simple the team gets owned if they have a brain and expert belt on it more people should use it but they dont idk why.
Celebi is a good answer for all my troubles and ill probably end up using it but with the B/W2 comming out shows you why im making this team a RMT because it will never be as effective as its been. Good post though you are spot on It would be in maybe 1/30 teams which doesnt really hurt my rank in honesty but it owns my team.

 

[askjeevs]

Simple the team gets owned if they have a brain and expert belt on it more people should use it but they dont idk why.
Celebi is a good answer for all my troubles and ill probably end up using it but with the B/W2 comming out shows you why im making this team a RMT because it will never be as effective as its been. Good post though you are spot on It would be in maybe 1/30 teams which doesnt really hurt my rank in honesty but it owns my team.

not really much of a solution, but a possible remedy would be to make Politoed into a Scarf user, giving a speed of 393 (262 * 1.5) Effectively tying with Timid HP Ice Jolteon, and OHKOing it after rocks

 

[Unchained1]

not really much of a solution, but a possible remedy would be to make Politoed into a Scarf user, giving a speed of 393 (262 * 1.5) Effectively tying with Timid HP Ice Jolteon, and OHKOing it after rocks

Great idea Jeevs atleast ill be able to troll Jolteon half the time lol better than just losing if i predict wrong xD

Thanks again!

 

[Lavos]

your descriptions are really short, seems like this is basically a "boast about my ladder ranking and get all my clan "bros" congratulating me on my success thread" rather than a team you actaully want rated. ( youve even luvdisced it yourself)

Lol.

Nice team unchained, the peak is pretty good (beta though...) and I am impressed by how well you put Gorebyss to work as a Hydration sweeper. Many people expect a standard smash/pass out of Gorebyss so using it as a stand alone sweeper instead is impressive.

Anyways the obvious flaw with this team is that stuff like Jellicent and Gastrodon walls it to hell, not to mention Sand Offense really has a field day with you, Magnezone kills Skarm and you are screwed. I would suggest Shed Shell for that problem...but for the bulky waters issue I might consider something unorthodox like HP Grass over Ice Beam on Gorebyss.

Also I don't see how Gastrodon really benefits your team at all, you might replace it with Wish passing Rain Rachi which seems to complement your team well and alleviate your weakness to Specs Latios and CM Latias to an extent.

That's all I have to say for now, might add more details later. Good job again on the interesting team.

 

[Unchained1]

Lol.

Nice team unchained, the peak is pretty good (beta though...) and I am impressed by how well you put Gorebyss to work as a Hydration sweeper. Many people expect a standard smash/pass out of Gorebyss so using it as a stand alone sweeper instead is impressive.

Anyways the obvious flaw with this team is that stuff like Jellicent and Gastrodon walls it to hell, not to mention Sand Offense really has a field day with you, Magnezone kills Skarm and you are screwed. I would suggest Shed Shell for that problem...but for the bulky waters issue I might consider something unorthodox like HP Grass over Ice Beam on Gorebyss.

Also I don't see how Gastrodon really benefits your team at all, you might replace it with Wish passing Rain Rachi which seems to complement your team well and alleviate your weakness to Specs Latios and CM Latias to an extent.

That's all I have to say for now, might add more details later. Good job again on the interesting team.

Thanks bro(LOL!) nice idea about rachi as it can spam 60% thunders in rain just to troll with Iron Head and Wish or something ill test it out and see how I go but your right sand is a big problem with zone and Scarf Terrakon or Landorus. I have the same problem with people spamming both Banded Dnite/Haxorus with scarf Salamence in the same team as Zone its such a troll team but yeah Shed Shell might be the answer!
Thanks again champ!

 

[Sciztar]

Hey man great team, I played against this team before and the one thing I remember that really hurt your team is Reuniclus. I had Energy ball on Reuniclus and took out 3 of your Pokemon. When I KOed your Gorebyss that really messed up your whole shell smash team. Might I suggest running Scizor on your team, because Calm Mind and the Trick Room Reuniclus gives your team some trouble IMO.

 

[Unchained1]

Hey man great team, I played against this team before and the one thing I remember that really hurt your team is Reuniclus. I had Energy ball on Reuniclus and took out 3 of your Pokemon. When I KOed your Gorebyss that really messed up your whole shell smash team. Might I suggest running Scizor on your team, because Calm Mind and the Trick Room Reuniclus gives your team some trouble IMO.

Hey man thanks for the post. Reuni with trick room is an awesome pokemon it ruins my team which is really based on speed and hitting hard! Scizor would benefit grately in the rain and would stop my problem of terrakon aswell thanks for the idea!