Other [1v1] 50/50s are too mainstream (4 alts in the top 10)

[aesf]

I noticed that a lot of people have stopped playing 1v1 recently, and I'm seeing the same group of people every time I ladder. I don't know why, but maybe an RMT will do the trick? Oh well, I probably won't play much more with this team, so I'll release it for everyone else to use.

I can definitely get farther, but meh #1 is too hard to reach, as you can probably tell...

OVERVIEW
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So I wanted to make a team that could basically take most of the most commonly used 1v1 cores and tear them to shreds, since let's face it; laddering is nearly impossible when you have 50/50s every single match. I had to use things that almost no one prepared for, but were still incredibly potent, and that was how this team came to be. Not much else to say, is there?

TEAMBUILDING PROCESS​

Stuff like Scarf kyurem-b, standard mega mawile, standard charizard y, etc. were immediately scratched off, because everyone and their mother has a counter to them, which creates 50/50s, which are bad. So what ended up happening was that I started targeting cores. The first, and most common, core that I targeted was Charizard Y + Mega Mawile + Kyurem-B/Mega Gyarados. This one was pretty hard to counter, but I ended up using a physically defensive Charizard Y with rock tomb to decent success. Easily one of the best pokemon in the tier, and the reason why I let this one slip is because it beats the most common dedicated 'counters' to regular Charizard Y.

Looking down the usage stat list, I saw a few pokemon that I had problems with: Mega Salamence, Mega Lopunny, Mega Charizard X, and Dragonite. After looking a bit, I had three choices to choose from, Specs Sylveon, Banded Rhyperior, and Scarf Kyurem-B. I immediately decided that Scarf Kyurem-B was not an option, because of the 50/50 thingy, and Mega Salamence, the biggest problem, could get around Rhyperior with hydro pump, so I chose a Specs Sylveon with maximum defense investment.

All my other teams got singlehandedly destroyed by Specs Meloetta, so I tried it.

Changed Sylveon because
1) It's not too good outside of killing the things i mentioned.
2) No one runs hydro pump on mence (except me)
3) Rhyperior is better

This is the final version of the team, and I'm pretty satisfied with it. The majority of the time, one pokemon can take care of all three of the opponent's pokemon, which is great if you hate 50/50s. Of course, there are some things that beat all three pokemon on the team, but fortunately those pokemon aren't too common...

THE TEAM
(I took the time and effort to draw the pokemon myself. Don't hate.)​

Charizard @ Charizardite Y
Ability: Blaze - Solar Power makes trace pokemon do more damage to me, which is bad
EVs: 224 HP / 160 Def / 20 SpA / 104 Spe - Explained later
Modest Nature - Even with little SpA investment, Modest is best.
- Will-O-Wisp - Cripples many offensive and/or sturdy pokemon that would otherwise beat me.
- Blast Burn - Literally kills half the tier, even with only 20+ SpA
- Rock Tomb - Beats all other Charizard Y, also eases prediction on greninja
- SolarBeam - Helps Charizard beat most water and slow rock types.​

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Here's Mega Charizard Y. It's really a catch-all, because blast burn pretty much ends the life of any gimmick not dedicated to counter charizard Y. Many pokemon that otherwise should counter it simply lose to will-o-wisp and/or solar beam. I ended up using rock tomb over ancient power because rock tomb allows me to beat all zardys instead of just fast ones.

What I like about this set is that many people use scarf Kyurem-B and Mega Gyarados as their Mega Charizard Y stop, both of which this set beats.

Another thing to note is that when facing protect/disable Alakazam, use blast burn, then two solar beams.

The EV spread is something I cooked up. 104 speed outspeeds adamant gyarados, and the rest, well, I'll show with calcs:
252+ SpA Mega Charizard Y Ancient Power vs. 224 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard Y: 296-352 (83.8 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Teravolt Kyurem-B Fusion Bolt vs. 224 HP / 160 Def Mega Charizard Y: 298-352 (84.4 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Greninja Hydro Cannon vs. 224 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard Y in Sun: 276-326 (78.1 - 92.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

List of pokemon in top 25 usage that it usually beats (assume most common set)

Charizard Y, Kyurem-B, Greninja, Mega Mawile, Mega Sableye, Mega Aggron, Mega Gyarados, Mega Gengar, Mega Metagross, Mega Alakazam, Mega Gardevoir, Mega Venusaur, Mega Heracross, Talonflame, Jirachi, Aron, Aegislash

List of pokemon in top 25 usage that it usually or sometimes loses to

Charizard X, Mega Lopunny, Mega Salamence, Dragonite, Smeargle, Porygon-Z, Azumarill, Garchomp, Meloetta

So basically, it beats 17, and only loses to 9 out of the top 25 (charizard has two forms). Pretty good, isn't it?

Rhyperior @ Choice Band - power is always good.
Ability: Solid Rock - Helps me live hits that i really shouldn't.
EVs: 104 HP / 252 Atk / 56 SpD / 96 Spe - explained later
Adamant Nature - most power
- Rock Wrecker - kills pretty much everything
- Earthquake - kills pretty much everything that rock wrecker doesn't kill.
- Rock Blast - Breaks through sturdy and substitutes
- Fire Punch/Counter/Ice Punch - Choose between hitting ferrothorn, beating other physical attackers, or hitting garchomp

Taking the spot that was once sylveon (and still works with sylveon), I have to say that rhyperior is incredibly useful in 1v1. Just like charizard Y, it's a complete nuke, but from the physical side this time. It fits in with my criteria in that it's extremely underprepared for, and yet so many teams lose to it.

Now the EVs. Maximum attack, because apparently rhyperior isn't strong enough. 96 speed speed creeps 8 speed Azumarill, since the 1v1 variants don't seem to run more than that. I think 104 HP / 56 SpD was to live a scarf kyurem-B ice beam while maximizing HP for overall bulk.

List of pokemon in top 25 usage that it usually beats (assume most common set)

Mega Charizard X, Kyurem-B, Mega Mawile, Mega Lopunny, Mega Salamence, Dragonite, Azumarill, Garchomp, Meloetta, Mega Metagross, Talonflame, Aron, Aegislash, Jirachi

List of pokemon in top 25 usage that it usually or sometimes loses to

Mega Charizard Y, Greninja, Mega Sableye, Mega Aggron, Mega Gyarados, Mega Alakazam, Mega Gardevoir, Mega Venusaur, Mega Heracross, Smeargle, Porygon-Z

This time it's only 14-12, but fortunately, Mega Charizard Y takes care of all the things it loses to except Smeargle and Porygon-Z. Rhyperior also happens to break many extremely common cores, like charizard X/Kyurem-B/Mega Mawile.

Meloetta @ Choice Specs - Again, the more powerful, the better
Ability: Serene Grace - Gives Shadow ball a nice drop chance
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD - moree powerr (alternate spread: 168 HP / 252 SpA / 88 Spe, outspeeds neutral base 100s)
Modest Nature - Do i even need to explain
IVs: 0 Atk - Foul Play can be annoying
- Psyshock - Great STAB that hits a lot of specially defensive things well.
- Hyper Beam - See above.
- Shadow Ball - I kind of forget what this hits, but I know it does hit stuff, also 20% drop chance is cool.
- Trick / Hyper Voice - Trick to beat almost every wall, hyper voice to beat things with sub. Your pick.

The last spot on the team. I had two choices at this point: 1) Patch up the weaknesses to Porygon-Z and Smeargle, or 2) Realize that almost nobody actually uses those two pokemon anyways and just bring another 'corebreaker'.

After i realized all my teams got completely destroyed by Meloetta, I decided to try it out for myself, and I haven't been disappointed with the results. It helps that most people just assume that it's a perish song meloetta, so most of the time they'll just straight-up attack it and die to hyper beam and/or psyshock. As long as you don't misclick you should find yourself winning a lot of battles with this thing.

List of pokemon in top 25 usage that it usually beats (assume most common set)

Charizard Y, Charizard X, Greninja, Kyurem-B, Mega Aggron, Mega Gengar, Mega Gardevoir, Mega Heracross, Mega Venusaur, Azumarill, Garchomp, Talonflame, Aron, Aegislash

List of pokemon in top 25 usage that it usually or sometimes loses to

Mega Sableye, Mega Mawile, Mega Lopunny, Mega Salamence, Dragonite, Meloetta, Mega Gyarados, Smeargle, Porygon-Z, Mega Alakazam, Jirachi, Mega Metagross

14-12 again. I don't really know whether I should keep melo, since it has served me well but seems to overlap with charizard Y.

Threats
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stuff that beats all three, in order of commonness

Smeargle @ Lum Berry
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Spore
- Imprison
- Transform
- Perish Song

Porygon-Z @ Choice Specs
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hyper Beam
- Trick
- Dark Pulse
- Ice Beam

Heracross @ Heracronite
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Seed
- Close Combat
- Rock Blast
- Pin Missile

Victini @ Choice Band
Ability: Victory Star
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Naughty Nature
- V-create
- Bolt Strike
- Grass Knot
- Trick

Salamence @ Salamencite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naughty Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Giga Impact
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage

Dragonite @ Choice Specs
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
- Hurricane

Fortunately, I rarely, if ever, see any of these pokemon, but keep in mind that they do in fact exist. Also remember that every time you use a team, Rumplestiltskin will come up with a way to beat you with very random gimmicks.

Replays​

So apparently out of my 300 battles with this team, i have 2 replays: one of me losing to an SD Skarmory from an iron head flinch, and another of me winning by getting two crits in a row.


I am open to suggestions, so please suggest something if you can, otherwise, thanks for reading this rmt!

importable

Charizard @ Charizardite Y
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 224 HP / 160 Def / 20 SpA / 104 Spe
Modest Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Blast Burn
- Rock Tomb
- SolarBeam

Rhyperior @ Choice Band
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 104 HP / 252 Atk / 56 SpD / 96 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Rock Wrecker
- Earthquake
- Rock Blast
- Fire Punch

Meloetta @ Choice Specs
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
- Psyshock
- Hyper Beam
- Shadow Ball
- Trick

 

[DEG]

Great time aesf, pretty sad you're not trying to catch #1 Great less competition. A way to fix your weakness against Poryzon-Z is to run more Special Defense on Meloetta insted of HP, I personally run it with 64-74 spdf evs.
252+ SpA Charizard Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 64 SpD Meloetta in Sun: 360-424 (89.1 - 104.9%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
(Yea calced with blast burn's base power)

While it is not necessary I'd suggest a Mega Mawile over Rhyperior, it kills mega salamence and other threats such as dragonite, heracross mega, Porygonz which threatens your team, I'd suggest a bulky moveset as I use but you're free to use the all-attacker:

Click Me!

Deg's Cuteness (Mawile) @ Mawilite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Metal Burst
- Play Rough
- Swords Dance
- Sucker Punch

or

Click Me!

Deg's Cuteness (Mawile) @ Mawilite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Def
Adamant Nature
0 Speed evs
- Play Rough
- Swords Dance
- Sucker Punch
- Fire Fang/Iron Head

Guess you forgot to tag Rumplestiltskin the gimmick king.

 

[Hypotenuse]

I tested this team it's pretty great but I vsed one of Rumplestiltskin's alts and he keeps beating me with Mega Altaria confide/iron defense/roost/hyper voice spam. I tried all 3 pokemon but I can't OHKO it.

Edit: I swapped out trick on Meloetta for Dazzling Gleam that way I can 2HKO his Altaria otherwise I'll never beat him.

Edit 2: Use ancient power over rock tomb for Charizard Y because rock tomb is 3HKO but ancient power is OHKO.

 

[dusk raimon]

Srsly lol, an rmt for 1v1 isn't really needed, but still nice team i can see how it checks alot/counters the top pokes in the tier.

Edit: talonflame is in top 25 most used pokes, LOL

 

[motherlove]

Amazing drawing skills.
I've seen this team all over the ladder while playing. Haven't tested it yet but I've been having a good time fighting it because this team gets destroyed by rindo berry rhyperior. ChariY can't ohko and get's oblitirated. Rhyperior can't ohko and takes counter in the face (unless he decides to go for counter and then it gets pp stalled) and meloetta can only 2hko if she gets the Sdef drop but gets 2hkoe'd by eq.

 

[Hypotenuse]

aesf, what have you done?

Better add a pokemon to beat this guy's Altaria.

 

[dusk raimon]

Better add a pokemon to beat this guy's Altaria.

I beat him today after talking with you, use psyshock on it ,with melo
I mean, and after he confides u u can still kill it on the follow up.

 

[motherlove]

You should run enough speed on zard to outspeed at least adamant heracross because he destroys your entire team.

 

[omnisc]

About motherlove 's comment...
even jolly kills...
252 Atk Mega Heracross Bullet Seed (5 hits) vs. 104 HP / 0 Def Solid Rock Rhyperior: 435-525 (109.5 - 132.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Mega Heracross Rock Blast (5 hits) vs. 224 HP / 160 Def Mega Charizard Y: 740-880 (209.6 - 249.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Mega Heracross Pin Missile (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Meloetta: 670-790 (165.8 - 195.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

And if the heracross is jolly...Giving Zard a +speed nature and 56 speed EVs and then investing the 48 spare into Sp.Atk can help overtake the heracross threat.
is there anything that Char fails to kill with that little bit of sp.atk gone?
However, its overall a very solid team Not Even Counter Char-M-Y, not even Specs Rhyperior