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all of the secret santa things should have been sent out to everyone now! check ur discord if u dont see it here on smogon, hf! once again deadline is christmas. if you can't make the team in time or have difficulties with it kindly inform me and i will help you
if i missed anyone im sorry its been a long day i am currently in an ikea on mobile with 11% battery
if i missed anyone im sorry its been a long day i am currently in an ikea on mobile with 11% battery
Good morning BigChuchu
Feraligatr was a more interesting mon than I initially thought, let's go over the set first
Sheer Force Life Orb makes it hit incredibly hard, and thanks to Dragon Dance you have a winning MU against Fast WP and SpA Booster Iron Crown with DD turn 1 and Liquidation every time they Iron Defense and Earthquake whenever they stop. Its 85 / 100 / 83 bulk is also good enough to withstand many hits, allowing it to beat almost any Hoopa-U besides Specs by clicking Liquidation, every single Volcanion (only having to take a favorable roll against specs hyper beam) and pretty much every other fire type, I think all Metagross? and a whole bunch more mons.
This still leaves us with prim, wellspring, meowscarada, some dragons and well a bunch of the meta. Solution?
I swear these EVs are optimal on this guy, I tried everything. Anyway you beat prim as long as you can setguess specs, and it also should be good into every drago except choice specs, which makes things easier for our third. Won't go too deeply into the other MUs.
For the third, since it's secret santa, I thought fuck it let's get funky with it, iron moth as the regidrago answer:
Struggle Bug into Dazzling Gleam should beat specifically Specs Regidrago, and the rest of the moves are enough for the other guys that you have to beat, like Iron Valiant, Pecharunt, Corviknight etc..
there's some weaknesses, mostly prim has to be either setguessed on specs or 50/50d on custap, drago you have to setguess specs.
you lose to endure sneasler unfortunately, but the gatr has his own limitations and sneasler is brokey. good day!
Feraligatr was a more interesting mon than I initially thought, let's go over the set first
Code:
Feraligatr @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 92 HP / 252 Atk / 164 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Liquidation
- Earthquake
- Rock SlideSheer Force Life Orb makes it hit incredibly hard, and thanks to Dragon Dance you have a winning MU against Fast WP and SpA Booster Iron Crown with DD turn 1 and Liquidation every time they Iron Defense and Earthquake whenever they stop. Its 85 / 100 / 83 bulk is also good enough to withstand many hits, allowing it to beat almost any Hoopa-U besides Specs by clicking Liquidation, every single Volcanion (only having to take a favorable roll against specs hyper beam) and pretty much every other fire type, I think all Metagross? and a whole bunch more mons.
This still leaves us with prim, wellspring, meowscarada, some dragons and well a bunch of the meta. Solution?
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Iron Hands @ Custap Berry
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- Close Combat
- Supercell Slam
- EndureI swear these EVs are optimal on this guy, I tried everything. Anyway you beat prim as long as you can setguess specs, and it also should be good into every drago except choice specs, which makes things easier for our third. Won't go too deeply into the other MUs.
For the third, since it's secret santa, I thought fuck it let's get funky with it, iron moth as the regidrago answer:
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Iron Moth @ Booster Energy
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 96 HP / 252 SpA / 160 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Fiery Dance
- Sludge Wave
- Dazzling Gleam
- Struggle BugStruggle Bug into Dazzling Gleam should beat specifically Specs Regidrago, and the rest of the moves are enough for the other guys that you have to beat, like Iron Valiant, Pecharunt, Corviknight etc..
there's some weaknesses, mostly prim has to be either setguessed on specs or 50/50d on custap, drago you have to setguess specs.
you lose to endure sneasler unfortunately, but the gatr has his own limitations and sneasler is brokey. good day!
dude dudunsparce defeats four mons wtf
volcarona, non offensive val, ninetales-alola, and non focus blast hoopa
here is the hitlist that the last mon has to beat if u find anything i just went for garchomp
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Pecharunt
Regidrago
Goodra-Hisui
banddot
spdef oger
Raging Bolt
Volcanion
Spectrier
Annihilape
Cresselia
Dragapult
Manaphy
Moltres-Galar
Roaring Moon
Sneasler
Walking Wakethe team loses to haban drago and cress as well as ape and bandot
the dudunsparce evs are for 12.5 jolly band chien pao sacred sword, 0.39 0 spa timid val moonblast lo recoil moonblast
the chomp evs are for band pult ddarts and scarf drago denergy with speed for spect at +1 speed
sorry for bad format post but i hope you have a good christmas DripLegend!
also i apologise for not using twave serene grace headbutt
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Gen 9
https://pokepast.es/670ae7ae24cc52c4
* Acid armor or calm mind works, don't expect to surpise someone with scarf reun more than once ^^ *
Gen 8
https://pokepast.es/65b539201a68b67b
* Golis and aegis evs are from set comp, did tyranitar specifically for both max specs and max band drago *
Have an early merry Christmas and New Year's!!
Gen 9
https://pokepast.es/670ae7ae24cc52c4
* Acid armor or calm mind works, don't expect to surpise someone with scarf reun more than once ^^ *
Gen 8
https://pokepast.es/65b539201a68b67b
* Golis and aegis evs are from set comp, did tyranitar specifically for both max specs and max band drago *
Have an early merry Christmas and New Year's!!
LongRat, you asked for a Wyrdeer? The gods heard your prayer and, in their benevolence, they sent me, the one and only Wyrdeerologist.
Behold!
This team has a couple of soft 0-3s but This team is cool af and I hope you have fun with it! :)
Merry Christmas everyone!
Behold!
Merry Christmas everyone!
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Happy Holidays Pengu ! You can find both your requested teams below, I'm not exactly a bw player so I hope the team doesnt have too many holes in it!
This Annihilape is meant to beat pecharunt, ursaluna, raging bolt, volcanion, and some fairies with band gunk shot. I am a really big ape fan so I enjoyed making this team. The EVs allow it to bulk Thunderbolt into Thunderclap from Raging Bolt, the speed evs are just to creep 220s like Raging Bolt. Ninetales beats Iron Hands, Regidrago, and the Urshifus for the team. Volcanion patches up the steel matchups Annihilape doesnt always cover like Iron Crown, Metagross, and Corviknight and covers Volcarona for the team among others.
Blissey does not do a lot for this team ngl but it has good matchups into genesect, manaphy, volcarona and pretty much every special attacker not named Keldeo. Mail prevents trick pokemon from shutting Blissey down and the evs + counter allow it opportunities to beat some physical attackers like Scarf Haxorus and Band Snorlax (favorable rolls). Rest over softboiled is an option for better odds into Toxic stallers like opposing Zapdos. Zapdos helps vs Shaymin, Keldeo, Metagross, Scrafty, and Garchomp among others while Metagross beats Snorlax, Registeel (I hope), Meloetta, PZ, Sawk, and Haxorus for the team.
happy birthday Kanha Greninja
building ss is enough of a challenge and i had to ask glitched for quality checks thank you glitched you're so awesome
ty for the... simple premise? and happy holidays!
building ss is enough of a challenge and i had to ask glitched for quality checks thank you glitched you're so awesome
a regular dfs core with aggron as a base, i really like aggron based off of the fact that it being a sturdymon with head smash and an actual attack stat (unlike relicanth) was actually interesting, then i latched dracozolt since it was a dragon that can beat stuff like prim and ferro, and fini is a good last as it can beat grounds and yeah that's about it.
the team's biggest flaw is that eseed koko is usually bulked for aggron head smash and most other variants would beat zolt, so you have to setguess it i think, but aside from that it's quite solid.
the team's biggest flaw is that eseed koko is usually bulked for aggron head smash and most other variants would beat zolt, so you have to setguess it i think, but aside from that it's quite solid.
hi Nuxl , hope you're enjoying the holidays! as a pu player i'm pretty familar with bellibolt, albeit not in a 1v1 setting. looking at the vr it's b and getting soak + a broken ability in a 1v1 context. it also can use custap very well (unfun item btw), but i wanted to stay away from smogon sets for belli cause that's lazy and anyone can do that.
so what i ended up doing is trying to figure out a way to bait and eliminate grounds with belli. that not only means i need a good belli set, but i also need a team that looks weak to grounds on tp to make the opponent think clicking the ground is the correct play. shuca belli was a surprisingly good option vs grounds; the ev spread ensures you beat all variants of ursaluna, non-sub variants of donphan, non-band and sub variants of lando, and quiet av bloodmoon (you lose to all other sets cause they outspeed you by 1 :sob:). unfortunately, you can't beat chomp but that's what the other two slots are for! anyway for ursaluna, the flowchart for all the sets is soak t1 and see how much damage their ground move does; if it's band damage, thunder immediately, if it's av damage, parabolic charge into thunder always kills and you always live barring crits. for the other grounds, it's soak t1 and then thunder immediately; you might not kill but you still get a ~13% chance of beating them anyway due to para and crit chances.
haban regidraco covers the more special side of the spectrum that belli can't beat and beats chomp (i think? i only saw one chomp and it wasn't scale shot so i'm assuming it does). also i see why people wanna suspect this mon it carries so hard. the only thing i swapped was dragon energy over breaking swipe cause i wanted a better pecha mu.
for the last slot i wanted something that beat steels, dragons that tech for haban draco, and stall mons. i wanted a scarf steel with a fire move cause i didn't want the team to be too slow but rachi is banned...so then i went to scarf meta and it did really well in tests! maybe it's cause no one expects scarf meta but the mu spread looks pretty good at least on paper. ev spread is unoptimized expect for speed to outpace scarf draco, it really just needed to hit hard and trick some stuff.
hope you have as much fun with this team as i did! i went from 1250 to 1500 elo in one day so it has to be at least usable.
so what i ended up doing is trying to figure out a way to bait and eliminate grounds with belli. that not only means i need a good belli set, but i also need a team that looks weak to grounds on tp to make the opponent think clicking the ground is the correct play. shuca belli was a surprisingly good option vs grounds; the ev spread ensures you beat all variants of ursaluna, non-sub variants of donphan, non-band and sub variants of lando, and quiet av bloodmoon (you lose to all other sets cause they outspeed you by 1 :sob:). unfortunately, you can't beat chomp but that's what the other two slots are for! anyway for ursaluna, the flowchart for all the sets is soak t1 and see how much damage their ground move does; if it's band damage, thunder immediately, if it's av damage, parabolic charge into thunder always kills and you always live barring crits. for the other grounds, it's soak t1 and then thunder immediately; you might not kill but you still get a ~13% chance of beating them anyway due to para and crit chances.
haban regidraco covers the more special side of the spectrum that belli can't beat and beats chomp (i think? i only saw one chomp and it wasn't scale shot so i'm assuming it does). also i see why people wanna suspect this mon it carries so hard. the only thing i swapped was dragon energy over breaking swipe cause i wanted a better pecha mu.
for the last slot i wanted something that beat steels, dragons that tech for haban draco, and stall mons. i wanted a scarf steel with a fire move cause i didn't want the team to be too slow but rachi is banned...so then i went to scarf meta and it did really well in tests! maybe it's cause no one expects scarf meta but the mu spread looks pretty good at least on paper. ev spread is unoptimized expect for speed to outpace scarf draco, it really just needed to hit hard and trick some stuff.
hope you have as much fun with this team as i did! i went from 1250 to 1500 elo in one day so it has to be at least usable.
Heyo glitched I made espurr (not saying it's good... Because it is, well, espurr.)
Um yeah espurr only matches up decently into pecharunt if they don't have a ghost move. Last slot is filler on espurr, figured shadow ball for Ghost-types that aren't named Pecharunt. Own Tempo does deny confusion although
Everything else is pretty simple, you can probably swap out Raging Bolt for something like Landorus-T, since the team is super weak to Tinkaton.
Yeah sets are standard besides ESPURRRRRR YEAH BABYYYYYYY
I'll edit once I get the other one done.
Um yeah espurr only matches up decently into pecharunt if they don't have a ghost move. Last slot is filler on espurr, figured shadow ball for Ghost-types that aren't named Pecharunt. Own Tempo does deny confusion although
Everything else is pretty simple, you can probably swap out Raging Bolt for something like Landorus-T, since the team is super weak to Tinkaton.
Yeah sets are standard besides ESPURRRRRR YEAH BABYYYYYYY
I'll edit once I get the other one done.
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sup delemon! here's your Enamorus-T team!
Have fun with the predicting that comes with a double weakpol team! :) I thought it would be poetic for Enam's name to be written in French, the language of love. Enamorus's Ev's are for living specs Volcanion Overheat, and the other two's are pretty basic, but pretty good. I personally think Ting-Lu is an underrated Pokemon right now. Anyway, have fun with the team and HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!
Have fun with the predicting that comes with a double weakpol team! :) I thought it would be poetic for Enam's name to be written in French, the language of love. Enamorus's Ev's are for living specs Volcanion Overheat, and the other two's are pretty basic, but pretty good. I personally think Ting-Lu is an underrated Pokemon right now. Anyway, have fun with the team and HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!
MERRY CHRISTMAS crow crumbs !
hopefully you will enjoy playing with these houndstone teams while sipping a Peppermint Mocha from Starbucks TM.
houndstone is rly fat and surprisingly has a fairly decent matchup spread into most physical mons and can cheese mons like crown or pecharunt. those matchups are fairly awkward though since it is going to lose to wp crown and pecharunt with a used up item walls you fairly hard, however you do beat special attack booster crown with sneak. bulk is for cb shifu wicked blow, and play rough kills urshifu. phantom force is filler, could try body press to cheese luna but i feel thats better used on specific wall sets. the zapdos and prim are fairly standard, this team is awkward into whims but not much else seems unplayable for it. (nvm hoopa is kinda hell)
houndstone also has trick + disable and this set can catch a bunch of stuff of guard and it's rly funny when it works out. trick is great at messing with setup mons t1 and also as long as you arent tricking an av hound is able to win a lot of stall matchups thanks to fluffy.
hopefully u have fun with these !
hopefully you will enjoy playing with these houndstone teams while sipping a Peppermint Mocha from Starbucks TM.
houndstone is rly fat and surprisingly has a fairly decent matchup spread into most physical mons and can cheese mons like crown or pecharunt. those matchups are fairly awkward though since it is going to lose to wp crown and pecharunt with a used up item walls you fairly hard, however you do beat special attack booster crown with sneak. bulk is for cb shifu wicked blow, and play rough kills urshifu. phantom force is filler, could try body press to cheese luna but i feel thats better used on specific wall sets. the zapdos and prim are fairly standard, this team is awkward into whims but not much else seems unplayable for it. (nvm hoopa is kinda hell)
houndstone also has trick + disable and this set can catch a bunch of stuff of guard and it's rly funny when it works out. trick is great at messing with setup mons t1 and also as long as you arent tricking an av hound is able to win a lot of stall matchups thanks to fluffy.
hopefully u have fun with these !
Merry Christmas Hera!
Building with Armarouge was certainly quite an interesting experience. The first set I tried building around was similar to the endure weakness policy weak armour sets I remember losing to on day one. From there, being a fire type that doesn't beat Iron Crown or Registeel was pretty bad, so Calm Mind was added to match boosts. Overheat and Psyshock are the attacking moves here, since they're the ones that do the most.
This needs maximum special attack for best Iron Valiant odds, speed for meow at +2, rest in HP for best Iron Crown odds
This leaves the other two slots to cover other fires, waters, grounds, darks, ghosts and dragons. Primarina was the obvious choice here, covering fires, grounds, darks and dragons. Life Orb is my comfort item, and the threatlist didn't look too bad, so that's what we're using.
With two mons chosen, the threatlist looks something like this
Band Hoopa-Unbound is the closest I could come to solving this, which speed ties opposing Hoopa-Unbound and loses to some Ogerpon-Wellspring (specifically U-turn variants)
with 6 moves would be perfect here
Flower Trick beats Primarina,
U-turn beats Hoopa-Unbound,
Knock Off beats Cresselia,
Low Kick beats Goodra-H,
Triple Axel beats Ogerpon-Wellspring and Raging Bolt,
Hopes and Dreams beats Pecharunt and Volcanion (Knock Off crit and Thunder Punch para are your bests odds, respectively)
beats everything except for Raging Bolt (which you can maybe beat with Prim??? idk I don't use Prim as my bolt beater) and Volcanion
Quick Table for how the team matches up into the VR:
I'm so sorry if I made any errors; the cm war sequences especially are really hard to figure out :c but I'll fix them asap
E: oh my im so sorry I forgot the shoutout section :sob:
Thank you to Murm for helping with a lot and to fruan for the idea to go prim(also namechange soon???)
Bonus:
I don't really know/understand anything about ADV, although the incredible Eeveekid10 has sent me a paste that features a salamence with evs in all 6 stats. I have no idea what anything does, you'd have to ask someone who knows ADV better than I do
Building with Armarouge was certainly quite an interesting experience. The first set I tried building around was similar to the endure weakness policy weak armour sets I remember losing to on day one. From there, being a fire type that doesn't beat Iron Crown or Registeel was pretty bad, so Calm Mind was added to match boosts. Overheat and Psyshock are the attacking moves here, since they're the ones that do the most.
Code:
Armarouge @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Weak Armor
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 240 HP / 252 SpA / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Overheat
- Psyshock
- EndureThis needs maximum special attack for best Iron Valiant odds, speed for meow at +2, rest in HP for best Iron Crown odds
This leaves the other two slots to cover other fires, waters, grounds, darks, ghosts and dragons. Primarina was the obvious choice here, covering fires, grounds, darks and dragons. Life Orb is my comfort item, and the threatlist didn't look too bad, so that's what we're using.
With two mons chosen, the threatlist looks something like this
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Primarina, Hoopa-Unbound, Pecharunt, Goodra-Hisui, Ogerpon-Wellspring, Raging Bolt, Volcanion, Cresselia
Ursaluna and Spectrier (setguess)Band Hoopa-Unbound is the closest I could come to solving this, which speed ties opposing Hoopa-Unbound and loses to some Ogerpon-Wellspring (specifically U-turn variants)
with 6 moves would be perfect hereFlower Trick beats Primarina,
U-turn beats Hoopa-Unbound,
Knock Off beats Cresselia,
Low Kick beats Goodra-H,
Triple Axel beats Ogerpon-Wellspring and Raging Bolt,
Hopes and Dreams beats Pecharunt and Volcanion (Knock Off crit and Thunder Punch para are your bests odds, respectively)
beats everything except for Raging Bolt (which you can maybe beat with Prim??? idk I don't use Prim as my bolt beater) and VolcanionQuick Table for how the team matches up into the VR:
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| Click Gunk Shot If they endure, hope that a) You poison b) They miss Hydro Cannon c) They don't get the roll in their favour to kill d) They mouse slip and don't kill :3 | ||
| Click Hyperspace Fury and win the speed tie ;-; | ||
 | CM t1, if their damage reveals to be choice specs, overheat kills if they also calm mind, keep clicking calm mind until: a) you both reach +6 +6, where overheat kills but stored power/psyshock doesn't (except vs spa booster, which has slightly favourable rolls) b) they attack before reaching +6, in which case overheat kills the next turn tl;dr: click cm until they attack, then attack, or reach +6 and attack | ||
| Overheat t1 should kill, but if you're concerned about max spdef corv then CM t1 should be safe | ||
 | Overheat t1, if you thud into protect, click psyshock immediately Afterwards, click whichever attacking move you can | ||
| Overheat kills unless they're av, which doesn't kill back with earthquake, so you win as long as you hit both moves. | ||
 | Click Hyperspace Fury and hope they aren't faster and poison with malignant chain then confuse you and prevent you from doing anything | ||
 | Click moonblast? I actually have no idea what's optimal in this matchup since everyone forfeits t1 ;-; | ||
 | Setguess: Hydro Cannon t1 beats band and guts, Icy wind has better odds into AV Hydro Cannon has better overall odds I think | ||
 | Click Drain Punch | ||
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| Endure t1, overheat t2 | Hyperspace Fury t1 wins if they aren't U-turn I think | |
 | Gunk Shot wins if they aren't U-turn | ||
| Hyperspace Fury | ||
  | Click moonblast | ||
| Hyperspace Fury | ||
 | CM alongside QD, psyshock eventually kills and you can endure if they endure for their custap | I think you lose this | |
 | Moonblast t1 | ||
 | Encore t1 so you don't lose to sub | Hyperspace Fury | |
 | Hoopa has a better matchup I think, but you want to icy wind t1 and encore a status move/hydro cannon on hex idk for sure spectrier mus are always weird | Hyperspace Fury | |
 | CM until overheat kills, endure if they endured a hit (you live any hit from custap) | ||
 | This one took me forever to figure out; apologies if I don't cover every possible scenario CM until you are +6 and they have +6 in both defenses. Overheat twice kills, while body press twice is a roll (10.9%) to kill. If they rest on the first overheat, +4 into +2 into +0 overheats don't kill without a crit, so your best chances are to CM once and overheating twice, with a 85% chance to kill (assuming you hit both) (CM twice loses to rest again; I guess you can also psyshock to bait out rest pp? idk) |
Thank you to Murm for helping with a lot and to fruan for the idea to go prim(also namechange soon???)
Bonus:
I don't really know/understand anything about ADV, although the incredible Eeveekid10 has sent me a paste that features a salamence with evs in all 6 stats. I have no idea what anything does, you'd have to ask someone who knows ADV better than I do
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