Serious 2020 Democratic Primary Thread

Who are your favorite candidates?

  • Kamala Harris

    Votes: 43 8.0%

  • Elizabeth Warren

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Julián Castro

    Votes: 16 3.0%

  • Pete Buttigieg

    Votes: 51 9.5%

  • Kirsten Gillibrand

    Votes: 7 1.3%

  • John Delaney

    Votes: 9 1.7%

  • Tulsi Gabbard

    Votes: 63 11.7%

  • Bernie Sanders

    Votes: 338 62.9%

  • Amy Klobuchar

    Votes: 12 2.2%

  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 45 8.4%

  • Andrew Yang

    Votes: 112 20.9%

  • Cory Booker

    Votes: 7 1.3%

  • Marianne Williamson

    Votes: 19 3.5%

  • Mike Bloomberg

    Votes: 12 2.2%
  • Total voters
    537
GatoDelFuego said:
Confucius say: he who brings up that this is only a pokemon website first has already lost
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This is not a political forum. Naturally, the users here aren't going to be particularly qualified to talk about politics, especially since it skews so young. They certainly aren't going to be as qualified as well-known political figures, pundits, and activists.

If you want to totally miss the point and take that as a condescending slight, that's your prerogative, but you know that's a dishonest interpretation.
 
MikeDawg said:
This is not a political forum. Naturally, the users here aren't going to be particularly qualified to talk about politics, especially since it skews so young. They certainly aren't going to be as qualified as well-known political figures, pundits, and activists.

If you want to totally miss the point and take that as a condescending slight, that's your prerogative, but you know that's a dishonest interpretation.
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Maybe you should stop posting here then, and go post wherever the hell you're getting responses from "well-known political figures, pundits, and activists".
 
kyoot blonde on MSNBC in Dubuque trying very hard to hide a fabulous rack in a turtleneck and blazer

edit: just shorted pete on predictit, there's lots of $$$ to be made tonight
 
leonard (from big bang theory) said:
Mikedawg why do you repeatedly bring up people’s age in this thread as a jab at their accountability when you’re in the exact same age range
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Because I don't consider myself to be a particularly important opinion either. I'm a 22 year old dude. Me and the other frequent posters in this thread have barely lived 1/4 of our lives and been out of college for a few years at most. The vast majority of people here started following politics less than half a decade ago. That means something.

At the same time, I'm not the one saying that 90% of the population (and 99% of the 30+ population) is corrupt and insane and wants to murder millions of people because they don't support Bernie Sanders. I recognize that people more experienced than myself have valuable input rather than dismissing them all.

Maybe you should stop posting here then, and go post wherever the hell you're getting responses from "well-known political figures, pundits, and activists".
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The comments here are (mostly) smarter than what you'd find in similarly Bernie-dominated spaces (like Reddit). Granted, that's an incredibly low bar, but I'd rather not lock myself into an echo chamber. In fact, the total disregard for facts in a lot of these pro-Bernie comments is a great confirmation that I'm right for not supporting him. For example, I have no faith that I'll get a reply to my latest dk response, because that would require him to acknowledge that he wrote a dramatic, accusatory essay over a Twitter meme that he didn't even bother to research (rather than just saying, "Bernie's staff member tweeted it, so it has to be true! Therefore, you have a low IQ and you literally want poor people to die!").

Besides, I haven't gotten this much unprovoked attention from 22 year old boys since college. It's great.
 
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Interestingly, despite new voter turnout going down, the caucuses this year skew quite a bit younger than years past.

24% are 17-29, vs 18% in 2016 and 22% in 2008.

That implies old voters decided to stay home rather than new young voters decided to show up. It's also weird that Bernie is underperforming despite the youth skew.

Edit: First time voters:

Sanders: 30%
Buttigieg: 24%
Warren: 14%
Biden: 8%
Yang: 8%
Klobuchar: 7%
 
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Lol Klobuchar the only candidate willing to take the bait and talk before the results are out. If her speech writers are good they give her something that lasts at least 15 mins. Captive audience while the networks have nothing else to talk about. Serious free media.

edit: Biden too. Doesn’t bode well for his own team’s perceptions of his results.
 
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It’ll be interesting if the Biden support breaks, and where it goes. I’d wager most to Klob and Mayor Pete, with a smaller faction to Warren.
 
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i knew pete was CIA but i didnt expect him to be stupid enough to show his hand already. if he doesnt drop out someone should help him a hand
 
WE GOT THE RECEIPTS


I hope this is true— b/c if it is, not only does Biden lose, but Buttegieg loses, the party admin loses...

If thisbecomes the scandal Niko suggests it is, we might have just won the WHOLE thing.
 
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Donald Trump just won both of these caucuses, lol.

Total chaos. The only question is whether this was a legit plan to screw Bernie regardless of result or if the Iowa Dem Party is actually that incompetent.

I'd get ready for four more years if I were ya'all. Dem convention is going to make '68 look like a hippie commune by comparison at this rate. Wear flame resistant clothes.
 
Deck Knight said:
Donald Trump just won both of these caucuses, lol.

Total chaos. The only question is whether this was a legit plan to screw Bernie regardless of result or if the Iowa Dem Party is actually that incompetent.

I'd get ready for four more years if I were ya'all. Dem convention is going to make '68 look like a hippie commune by comparison at this rate. Wear flame resistant clothes.
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Deck, what do you think of Saager Enjeti?
 
Is this thread really going to devolve into insane Bernie conspiracy theories already? At least give it until the second state.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...ernie-allies-are-still-at-odds-over-caucus-vs

Reminder that Clinton's team wanted to avoid this, but there was pushback from a certain group...

The DNC let Bernie rework the primary process. Now that there are issues stemming from those changes, it's somehow a scheme against Bernie? Jfc.
 
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The amazing thing about last night's disaster is that even if it was a total accident and bernie legitimately lost, nobody will believe it now. this could not have gone better for bernie fans, the DNC has to give it to bernie or we are probably getting four more years
 
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