4Drag,1Mag,1Whack-A-Mole ~ Peaked #74


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INTRODUCTION
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Four score and seven years ago, the world's most essential and genius formula was created. It went something like this: When O is Outrage and S is opposing steel pokemon, O - S = WIN. For those of you who are more visual learners, here is a basic flowchart that demonstrates the equation to perfection.
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Courtesy of makiri, this flowchart demonstrates the simple basis of the team: Abuse Outrage like there's no tomorrow, and trap any steels stopping me from doing so. Once STAB is factored in, Outrage hits an amazing 180 Base Power, tacked onto the shear power of the current OU dragons, it can break through even the most defensive of teams. This style (if you can even call it that) originated nearly two years ago in the 4th gen era. The metagame has changed incredibly since then, and many of the changes were just what 4Drag2Mag needed. The first was haxorus. The basis of this team is to be able to out speed anything and everything with a scarf, while still doing massive damage. Using a scarf gives your pokemon speed, but in doing so you lose the power of Life Orb or Choice Band. Haxorus, however creates its own power in its base 147 attack stat. The second boost to 4Drag2Mag was Latios, who was willing to ditch his friends in Ubers to assist the much more exciting OU metagame. Latios adds the specially offensive element that very few other dragons can. Latias simple doesn't carry the offensive momentum to fit into the team as much as I would like, and Hydreigon misses out on my favorite aspect of Latios: its access to Trick. The last essential element this team gained was Multiscale Dragonite. Though this team doesn't have room to spin away Stealth Rocks, a careful played Dragonite can still take a hit and come back with a massive Outrage. Other boosts to the team have been added, most notably, Eviolite Magneton. Let me first say that getting rid of it was a hard decision, and you'll read why below. But know that for those of you willing to test it, Magneton is an incredible addition to this team and is still very viable. SO. Moving on.
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A Closer Look
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Haxorus @ Choice Scarf

  • Mold Breaker
  • 4 HP | 252 Atk | 252 Spe
  • Adamant Nature [+Attack, -Special Attack]
  • Moveset:

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      - Outrage: Its pretty much a given on half the pokemon on this team. Large attack stat, STAB, Outrage...you get the point
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      - Earthquake: Next to Outrage, this is probably the most spammed move on the set. As long as my opponent doesn't have a flying type, namely Gliscor, Earthquake mixed with Mold Breaker is a very dangerous threat, particularly to Rotom-W which otherwise could be fairly problematic to me team
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      - Dual Chop: Meh. I don't like the move, but if I'm facing a Breloom its my best bet at getting rid of the Sub without being put to sleep or getting nailed with a Focus Punch. Its also a nice STAB move to go for if I want to lure in steel types without locking myself into Outrage.
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      - Brick Break: I think I've only ever clicked this button once or twice on PO before, and it was on a Chople Berry Tyranitar, which followed up by KOing me with an Ice Beam. But I'm sure one day my opponent will have a Reflect up, and my only chance at winning will be to break them via Brick Break.

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    Why this Pokemon?:
    I feel like I could just post this pokemon's stats here and let them do the talking. Though I had a solid idea of who I wanted on this team, Haxorus was probably the only pokemon with no danger of being eliminated. Its massive attack made sure of that. Haxorus’ attack stat is just under the equivalent of a Banded Flygon’s, however it isn’t threatened by Gengar, Rotom-W, Weezing, etc. seeing as Mold Breaker breaks past levitate, setting up a new dimension to the number of pokemon Haxorus can dispose of. Once you take steel types out of the picture, Haxorus should do a substantial amount to almost any pokemon in the OU metagame with an Outrage. People more often than not assume all Haxoruses (Haxori?) come pre-packaged with a Choice Band, and send in their fastest poke to take it out, not even considering the fact that Haxorus could be scarfed, outspeeding nearly everything.
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    EVs & Nature:
    252 Attack and an Adamant nature is pretty self explanatory. Its already scarfed so Jolly isn’t necessary, especially with an odd 97 base speed. Either its gonna outspeed or its not, so long as it hits hard I’m fine.

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    Considered Changes
    Not much you can do with this set as its pretty standard, but any changes are welcome.


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    Latios @ Choice Scarf
    • Levitate
    • 4 HP | 252 SpAtk | 252 Spe
    • Modest (+Special Attack, -Attack)
    • Moveset:

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        - Draco Meteor: If I really have no idea what to go for, Draco Meteor is the obvious choice. If I have Latios out on the field, it usually means that my opponent doesn’t have any special walls left, making Draco Meteor the all around go-to choice.
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        - Surf: Coverage purposes...If Scizor is on a Drizzle team, its probably gonna be easier to just spam surf than risking pursuit to my switch to magnezone.
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        - Thunderbolt: Sort of gimmicky, but after one Dragon Dance Gyarados can sweep my team with Ice Fang and Earthquake alone, and thunderbolt on Latios is my most reliable check to it.
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        - Trick: Love it Love it Love it. There is always that one pokemon, namely Gastrodon, that is just too annoying to play around. Rather than guess at whether its physically defensive or specially defensive, just lock it into Toxic or something and make it a whole lot easier to take out.

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    Why this Pokemon?:
    Latios is one of those pokemon that doesn’t get as much use as it should, but then there is one game that, without Latios, I wouldn’t stand a chance. A lot of times its just Pursuit fodder for Scizors, allowing Magnezone to come in a do its SubChargeBeam stuff, but other times completely screws my opponent over. It’s the fastest thing on the team, and is the only special attacker outside of Magnezone. It fought fierce competition with Hydreigon and Latias, but neither fit the job as well as I had hoped, leaving Latios my best bet. Its moveset is big enough that I could customize it according to the team’s needs, which basically meant missing out on Hidden Power Fire for Thunderbolt. Whenever I have a free switch-in, Latios is my automatic choice, as it outspeeds most offensive threats, and can cripple the defensive ones.
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    EVs & Nature:
    Just like Haxorus, and about everything else on the team, its EVs and Natures are as standard as they get, made only to do as much damage to as many things as possible.

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    Considered Changes
    Hidden Power Fire would be nice, but I usually want Magnezone to take care of steel types anyways. Maybe a Timid nature?

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    Dragonite @ Choice Band
    • Multiscale
    • 4 HP | 252 Atk | 252 Spe
    • Adamant Nature (Attack, -SpAtk)
    • Moveset:
      • DragonIC_Big.png
        -Outrage: Banded STAB Outrage is nothing to mess around with. Once the steel types are gone, nothing -NOTHING- wants to switch into this. Even something that can take the hit won’t be able to do much damage back as long as Multiscale is intact.
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        - Fire Punch: Coverage. I don’t want Magnezone being the only thing capable of handling Ferrothorn.
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        - Extremespeed: With a Choice Band, Dragonite loses speed, but Extremespeed makes up for this incredibly, being able to get rid of any potential threats that have minimal HP remaining. Mamoswine wrecks this team with a combination of Ice Shard and Earthquake, so having powerful priority on my side is essential
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        - Earthquake: On the “Standard DD” Dragonite set, people tend to run Extremespeed over Earthquake, so assuming they don’t know I’m Banded, they may want to try their luck and keep a ground-weak pokemon in. But other than that, its just a cool move worthy of Dragonite sheer strength.

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    Why this Pokemon?:
    Dragonite was a given on the originaly 4Drag2Mag, and Multiscale hasn’t hurt its chances of making the team a second time at all. The conflicting part of this pokemon though, is the Choice Band. The purpose of 4Drag2Mag is for speed. Power is supposed to be worked within their stats, but speed comes from the scarf. My problem with this was with Extremespeed and Multiscale, a scarf just didn’t seem to...work. Or rather, if worked, but a Choice Band worked a whole lot better. Unlike in previous generations, Dragonite can actually stand to take a hit now. While I still value its speed, it can still be slower than a variety of opponents, and KO them when it never could with a scarf. That argument on its own wasn’t enough to convince me, but Extremespeed seemed terribly redundant. Even with a Scarf, Dragonite is slower than a Weavile, so an Ice Shard would still KO me after Stealth Rock damage. Honestly, it has just seemed to work better for me. If you guys have any other suggestions on how to make a Scarfed set work, trust me, I’m all ears.
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    EVs & Nature:
    252 Atk...Adamant...252 Speed...GAH its supposed to be powerful. I made it powerful. Thus the spread was born.

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    Considered Changes
    Scarfed set if I can make it work.
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    Flygon @ Choice Scarf
    • Levitate
    • 4 HP | 252 Atk | 252 Speed
    • Jolly Nature (+Adamant, -Special Attack)
    • Moveset:
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        - Outrage: Hopefully you’ve caught on by now...
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        - Earthquake: Earthquake is an incredible move, but very few dragon types can boast the extra STAB strength Flygon carries, making it an essential addition to the set.
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        - U-Turn: I actually consider this to be one of my favorite moves on the team outside of Outrage. The purpose of the team is to spam Outrage with no real strategy, but U-Turn lets me play a prediction game, and then lets Haxorus spam Outrage once I’m in the right position. Also lets me get easy switches into Magnezone and Dugtrio on steel types who predict me to outrage.
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        - Stone Edge: Good coverage, if nothing else. I don’t like the reliability, but I guess everyone has to put up with it.

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    Why this Pokemon?:
    Flygon used to be a Salamence, until I was faced with the miserable truth: Salamence can’t run a Scarfed set effectively, or not in the way I needed it to work. Salamence was powerful, but Stealth Rock weakness was just too much to bear. Flygon was the obvious next choice. Its known for running its Choiced sets, and for being incredibly effective with them. U-Turn worked amazingly well with the team and Flygon is the best dragon to abuse it. It has a decent attack stat, and having STAB Earthquake helped incredibly in its placement on the team. Not much else to say
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    EVs & Nature:
    56 HP may not seems all too amazing, but it does get me all around bulk without dominating most of the EVs
    72 Atk...I have Dragon Dance, not to mention 125 base Attack. Who cares if I don't max it out? The lack of power is definitely worth the extra playing time on the field I get.
    96 Def, just like for HP, only increases upon my already incredible bulk.
    184 Speed lets Gyarados have a bit more in its only lacking stat (bar spc. attack), and increases the speed I gain from DD.
    *EVs are bound to change in the near future. These were from Generation 4, with Generation 4 calculations. I'll try to change these in the next 24 hours, but if anyone has a better spread then that'd be great!*

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    Considered Changes
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    Magnezone @ Leftovers
    • Magnet Pull
    • 36 HP | 252 SpAtk | 200 Spe
    • Timid (+Speed, -Attack)
    • Moveset:
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        - Substitute: Basically just gives me an extra shield if I have the chance to set it up. It stops Leech Seed and Thunder Wave from Ferrothorn, and its always fun to set up on a Scizor locked into Bullet Punch.
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        - Charge Beam: I used to run a Jirachi that would always get trapped by this thing, and would be Charge Beamed to death, with Maagnezone at +6. Not gonna miss out on the fun for myself.
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        - Thunderbolt: Primary attacking move. If I get even one boost from Charge Beam, STAB Thunderbolt with a Modest Nature should hurt anything.
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        - Hidden Power [Fire]: The whole purpose of this set is as a steel killer, so its pretty much a given.

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    Why this Pokemon?:
    Its currently the best pokemon for the job as a steel killer...it has a set JUST for killing steel types. It does its job VERY well, and doesn't take hits too poorly either. It can outspend most varieties of Scizor, and is the bane of every Ferrothorn that doesn't run Bulldoze. I only have 2 pokemon affected by Spikes, and one of those pokemon is Magnezone who probably won't switch back in. The point is, that I can take my time killing off the Ferrothorn if they've already gotten their Stealth Rocks up. The only real steel types I have trouble with are Lucario and Calm Mind Jirachi under rain, but all in all it does an extraordinary job at getting rid of what it needs to. If there are no steel types on the opposing side, it makes nice EQ fodder, letting one of my dragons come in safely to start raging.
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    EVs & Nature:
    It needs to take a hit, and hit back harder. The spread does that quite nicely in my opinion.
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    Considered Changes
    None as of now.

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    Dugtrio @ Focus Sash
    • Arena Trap
    • 4 HP | 252 Atk | 252 Spe
    • Adamant Nature [+Attack, -Special Attack]
    • Moveset:

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        - Stealth Rocks: The only reason I chose Dugtrio over Magneton, and let me tell you, this move is almost as important as Outrage on this team.
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        - Earthquake: Dugtrio doesn't have tremendous attack, but it does hit pretty hard with a STAB earthquake, especially on T-Tar and Ninetales. It also gets rid of some steel types like Jirachi and and Magnezone that MY Magnezone would otherwise have trouble with.
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        - Stone Edge: Dugtrio has a pretty lousy movepool, but Stone Edge is decent enough and can hit flying and ice types for a decent amount
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        - Sucker Punch: Dugtrio fast, but scarfers can still wreck him and Sucker Punch is the best way for Dugtrio to go out strong.

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    Why this Pokemon?:
    I won't lie. I'm pretty ashamed that I couldn't make magneton work. I mean, when it worked it WORKED really well. Set up a sub on their switch to Choice Banded Metagross, let them get rid of my sub with Earthquake as I use Magnet Rise, and then laugh as I destroy their metagross with Hidden Power Fire. But this team needed one thing: Stealth Rocks. I feel like you could get away without Stealth Rocks last generation, and even occasionally in 5th gen. But if my opponent got up a Dragon Dance with a Dragonite, and they were still at full health with their Multiscale still intact, I would simply rage quit. Even if I could get past the Dragonite, it would leave my team broken and intact. Not only this, but there were so many pokemon who would be left with about 5% of their HP left, and not having Stealth Rocks would cost me the game. It was this same topic I was thinking about one day when I had my Magnezone out on the field. Suddenly my opponent sent out their Dugtrio...simple solution: switch out. Oh thats right, I couldn't, because of Arena Trap. I watched as the Dugtrio set up Stealth Rocks, KOd me with Earthquake, Sucker Punched my Latios for a clean KO, then watched as Dragonite's Outrage brought him down to 1 HP due to Focus Sash, and then watched as a Stone Edge took down my health. There was no denying it, I needed Dugtrio. It didn't fit into a roll as a steel killer as well as I had hoped, however if I could find a way to make magnezone last longer, I believe I could make it work. I tried alternatives as well: Eviolite Nosepass with Stealth Rocks and Hidden Power Fire...only thing that did was make my opponents laugh to death. So this was more of a story on why I DIDN'T pick any other pokemon, but I feel like it was the most effective way to explain why I had to use Dugtrio.
    EVs & Nature:
    252 Attack/Adamant nature is just to do damage. Its not necessarily a pokemon with sweeping potential, but it can cover any damage that my dragons can't.
    252 Speed makes me faster than quite a few pokemon. Its best stat is speed so I might as well play to its strengths.

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    Considered Changes
    None at the moment, though I'm completely open to suggestions.


    So there it was. I still feel like the chart you saw above could of sufficed in replacing this entire RMT, but nonetheless...ANYWAYS. This team did peak 74th on PO, but its far from perfect. I got very lucky while moving up the ranks, facing minimal Mamoswine who wreck this team, as every poke on the team is weak to one of its STABS. My opponents usually don't realize it, but fierce switching between Tyranitar and Gliscor can be problematic, and usually result in a mad prediction game, which this team is quite poor at. So now that I've wasted the last 15 minutes of your life, it's time for you to ignore that English paper for 15 more minutes and give me your feedback! Thanks a lot guys!
 
Have you tried Eviolite Magneton over Magnezone? Use the exact same set but change the EV spread to 128 Hp / 252 SpA / 124 Spe Timid Nature will allow you to outspeed all Adamant Scizor while giving you maximum bulk or a spread of 36 Hp / 252 SpA / 216 Modest Nature Gives a bit more kick while still out speeding him. Also i think a spinner would help your team alot because right now Stealth Rocks screws you over by breaking Multiscale and focus Sash.
 
Have you tried Eviolite Magneton over Magnezone? Use the exact same set but change the EV spread to 128 Hp / 252 SpA / 124 Spe Timid Nature will allow you to outspeed all Adamant Scizor while giving you maximum bulk or a spread of 36 Hp / 252 SpA / 216 Modest Nature Gives a bit more kick while still out speeding him. Also i think a spinner would help your team alot because right now Stealth Rocks screws you over by breaking Multiscale and focus Sash.

Hey thanks, I'll test out the Magneton set. I think I will miss the Charge Beam but I'll test it out.
Having a Rapid Spinner has crossed my mind frequently, but it just doesn't fit with the team. Dugtrio tends to be my lead spot anyways, so with any luck he'll be able to prevent stealth rocks from being set up. The idea isn't really to preserve the dragons though, just to get as much use out of them is possible, so Stealth Rocks aren't an incredible threat.
 
3 Choiced Pokemon is just to much. Maybe try using a DD Haxorus. Dragon Dance, Outrage / Dual Chop, Earthquake, and Brick Break.

And how do you deal with SD LO Lucario with Stealth Rock in play?
 
I reckon Latios should be Specs since it already outspeeds the other Dragons and its the only special attacking Dragon on your team. Scarf Haxorus should clean everything else up. Also, is Flygon powerful enough with Leftovers? I'd give it Life Orb personally, to make sure your Outrages are as powerful as possible. With only base 100 Attack, Flygon needs all the power it can get. Otherwise, good job :)
 
This is team nice. First of all, keep Dugtrio and Magnezone. Eviolite Magneton is terrbile just because you don't have leftovers anymore, which means you don't get to make as many substitutes as you want. I suggest a Choice Spec'd Magnezone over the Magnezone you have now. Choice Spec'd Magnezone allows you to keep momentum with Volt Switch, which is incredibly useful for this type of team. Additionally, Choice Spec'd Magnezone is very good against Rain Stall.
During my own personal testing with this type of team, I've found Rain Stall very difficult to beat. As I mentioned earlier, Magnezone helps alleviate that problem, but it can't due away with that problem by itself. That is why I'm suggesting a Double Dancing Haxorus. Double Dance Haxorus DESTROYS rain stall. If they're lacking the Sub-Calm Mind Jirachi, then you are free to set up a Swords Dance, and destroy the team. Most of your team is walled by Chansey(with the exception of Dragonite), and Haxorus laughs at Chansey.

Give these sets a try!
Magnezone @Choice Specs
Nature:Modest
Evs: 252 SPA/ 148 HP/ 108 SPE
-Volt Switch
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power Fire
-Flash Cannon

Haxorus@Lum Berry
Nature:Adamant
Evs: 252 ATK/ 252 SPE/ 4 HP
-Dragon Dance
-Swords Dance
-Outrage
-Earthquake

*Fun Fact- That Magnezone set out speeds almost all Skarmory sets and 2hkos Tyranitar.
 
I have suggestions. One choice dragon, 2 DDers and screens magnezone. In today's metagame set up magnezone is meh. Use screens to help you set up. It works
 
56 HP may not seems all too amazing, but it does get me all around bulk without dominating most of the EVs
72 Atk...I have Dragon Dance, not to mention 125 base Attack. Who cares if I don't max it out? The lack of power is definitely worth the extra playing time on the field I get.
96 Def, just like for HP, only increases upon my already incredible bulk.
184 Speed lets Gyarados have a bit more in its only lacking stat (bar spc. attack), and increases the speed I gain from DD.
*EVs are bound to change in the near future. These were from Generation 4, with Generation 4 calculations. I'll try to change these in the next 24 hours, but if anyone has a better spread then that'd be great!*

If I'm not mistaken, this is probably your old Salamence's reasoning.

Personally, you may want to get rid of Flygon. If the biggest pull of Flygon is U-Turn then you may want to consider Scizor or Rotom-W. They offer more powerful pivot moves and bring more resistances to your team.
 
Magnezone doesn't need screens. He sends out Magnezone on the [more than] occasional Ferrothorn and sets up a sub, then proceeds to spam Charge Beam. That way, he sets up and gets rid of opposing Steels for Outrage to wreak havoc. Right now, I love this team, and I don't see many changes to be made. However, I know the point of 4Drag2Mag is a 4 Dragon Hyper Offense, but I feel like with 5 Ice weaks, it may be very hard. I'll come back and give this a full rate later.

Hi quagsire/Gastrodon/ shed shell/etc.

Dugtrio's synergy does not count, it dies to pretty much anything anyways
 
Flow chart made me lol. Hilarious.

Anyways, definitely use Double Dance Lum Haxorus. Completely rapes every form of stall. And use Specs on Latios. And don't use Flygon. Ever. Yep that's about all I can think of. Oh yeah, and Mamoswine rapes you. I would use Starmie over Flygon to alleviate that. Or Salamence, cuz although he does nothing to help with Mamoswine, he's pretty cool.
 
I would replace Flygon with CB Scizor, just because Flygon sucks and you will be able to kill Mamowine , who would otherwise kill your team.
 
Hi there. Your essentially raped by Mamoswine at this point, all they need is a pinch of prior damage on latios and Hax, and for rocks to be up in order to break trio's sash. From there it's a 6-0. The easiest way I see to patch this up without changing your team is to make your magnezone Scarfed.

Magnezone
252Sptack/252Speed
Choice scarf timid
Thunderbolt
flash cannon
Hidden power fire
volt switch

Flash Cannon will OHKO unsuspecting Mamo's, though you may lose some durability and the chance to set up with chargebeam. The only poke that this might be problematic with this set would be Jirachi, though fortunately for you, Dugtrio is capable of trapping that as well. Good Luck!
 
^Please don't be stupid. 4Drag1Mag teams are not an invention of PK Gaming.

On topic: Why Flygon? I seriously don't understand why are you using it. Also, why 3 scarfed mons? Unless you really need them to be scarfed I don't see the point
 
flygon is uniqe and a nice switch from mence i personly think the typeing is really good but thats just my misguided veiw
 
3 Choiced Pokemon is just to much. Maybe try using a DD Haxorus. Dragon Dance, Outrage / Dual Chop, Earthquake, and Brick Break.

And how do you deal with SD LO Lucario with Stealth Rock in play?
Lucario is hardpressed to set up...the only moves it can surely set up on are Dragonite's E-speed and Stone edge from flygonn, I don't see how its much of a problem...
 
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:)

Maybe you should try CB Haxorus over your scarfed one. It's the best at Outrage spam. Specs Latios over Scarf, because the point of this team is to smash opponents with powerful dragon moves, not unboosted dragon moves. Flygon is just terrible, it hits like stick. Now that Salamence has moxie, not only can it revenge things, but it can also sweep after a kill with outrage. here's the set:

name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Outrage
move 2: Dragon Claw
move 3: Fire Blast
move 4: Earthquake / Brick Break / Stone Edge
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Moxie
nature: Naïve / Naughty
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

good luck :)
 
I'm really not that good for rating, but from what I see, DARN THIS IS AWESOME!
I tried using this team and i say, it can own!
anyways, as for your HP Fire on Latios i think you wouldn't need it due to dragonite's fire punch.
 
^Please don't be stupid. 4Drag1Mag teams are not an invention of PK Gaming.

On topic: Why Flygon? I seriously don't understand why are you using it. Also, why 3 scarfed mons? Unless you really need them to be scarfed I don't see the point

Did I ever mention PK Gaming invented the style? I was merely suggesting a very good RMT that may provide some inspiration. Also please correct yourself, it is 2Mag, not 1Mag.

On topic, mence is a much better scarfer than flygon

Salamence @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Intimidate
Nature: Jolly ( +Spd , -SpA)
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Brick Break
-Stone Edge
 
Hey, having fought this team on the ladder (although someone else was wielding it) has a slight weakness to Air Balloon Heatran. Supposing it sets up SR it can KO Dugtrio, Switch on Haxorus and KO it and do damage to Latios. I'm nut sure how you solve this without ruining the very cool concept of this team but just a heads up. Also I recommend using a Choice Magnezone over your original. If you do wish to patch up your heatran problem you could try Waterfall over Eartyhquake on D-nite, letting you hit it even though it's floating. The only time Heatran is a real threat though is when you're locked in Outrage so Waterfall is only an Idea (plus you can hit most stuff that EQ did) just consider it and Good Luck!

-The Tyranitar
 
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