At the risk of sounding rude, you know you can switch out in Single Battles, right?
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Other 6th Gen Pokemon OU Candidate Speculation Thread
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Oh... Now I feel stupid. Well uh, What about something like U-Turn? (IDK I'm just thinking out loud right now.)
You do not sound rude, thank you for the kind response, sir. :D (I'm not that experienced at this, and I'm not that old either.)
Yes.
Is there even a single Fairy that breaks 100 base speed? If not, Mence is going to either speed tie or outspeed you.
Hmm... I could've sworn the opposite... oh well. Thanks for informing me on this.
Whimsicott (lel), otherwise only M-Gardevoir speed-ties. Still, at least Togekiss is bulky enough to take anything that's not Stone Miss.
EDIT: I still want my Fairy-type Azelf, and I'll be quite upset if I don't get it.
Yes. Whimsicott, Mega Gardevoir, Dedenne. And Togekiss might outspeed him.
Salamence vs Whimiscott
Salamence used Fire Blast!
Salamence vs Dedenne
Salamence used Earthquake!
Salamence vs Mega Gardevoir
Scarfed Mence gets first move. He might win with Earthquake. Might...
Salamence vs Togekiss
Okay, you've got me there.
Why is Mence staying in on Sylveon or Togekiss? He will get wrecked if he doesn't swap, because he can't OHKO either of them and they can certainly OHKO him.
Uhh, Last pokemon? Or Mean Look?
252 Atk Life Orb Salamence Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 135-160 (34.26 - 40.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
EDIT: nevermind, I used Umbreon's stats and didn't change defence. It's a 2HKO.
EDIT the 2nd: On the other hand, Bold Sylveon looks like it takes Sally quite well. To wit:
- 252 Atk Life Orb Salamence Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 152+ Def Sylveon: 155-182 (39.34 - 46.19%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
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Is there any word about Togekiss getting Moonblast? I haven't still found anything. If yes, then he's OU material.
I didn't know the calculation off hand, but I'm using Clefable right now who is very similar to Sylveon and I can tell you that despite their appearances, they can take a physical beating. Especially if you run Reflect.
Togekiss gives Wish to Cleffa, so maybe Clefable gives Moonblast to Togepi?
Hopefully this is the case. We wont know until someone tries.
Yeah, using Hidden Power Fairy reallly blows.
Same problem with Moonblast. Can it be learned by Togekiss?
What about Dazzling Gleam + STAB?
Dazzling Gleam is TM99, which is compatible with the Togepi line.
Not as Powerful as Moonblast D:
Thank you, I just found your thread. I guess no more paraflinching for Togekiss, since he loses coverage against those steel types and more importantly, loses to Flash Cannon Heatran.
Yeah, just because of this statement I can already see Steel types dominating all tiers.
Carbink has a very nice support movepool and typing, Rock/Fairy, and very decent bulk all around. it also has the effect Sturdy which prevents 1hko. It can setup reflect and light screen and as well as stealth rock it can wall most pokemon with +2 swords dance such as Blaziken. It has access to Toxic which can also be ran. besides from that it also has access to the all important calm mind. very viable candidate to go to ou.
Could still be possible with Galvantula's Sticky Web instead of paralysis. The 4-slot move syndrome sucks though :x
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