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NOC 9p Matrix 6 Game Thread [GAME OVER]

Pages 1-10

1. Thunder~BALLZ
The only real thing he seems to do in these first 10 pages is push on me, then never expands on it then gives up.
2. Whydon

3. OM

hello friends, family and foreign visitors. My name is Metagames, Other Metagames, but you all may call me OM for short. On this fine day I would love to thank you all for coming and enjoying this little get together. May we all have a grand old time.

To kick this game off,

I believe caffeineboost is town.
OM's initial post, starts off saying CB Is town, I haven't really seen any reason to back this up at this point, all CB's done so far is talk about set-up spec so this read is a bit odd.

OM follows up by saying he thinks CB is town because CB started an RVS vote and is "content driven" neither of which are really NAI in my opinion.

Bonjour mon amie

Lynch M24

I don't like this slot atm, seems too wishy washy on stating things.

Unfortunately, the game is moving slowly because Masters Thunder~BALLZ and Whydon forgot how to type, I presume.

OM's 2nd foray into the game. Throws sus on M24. If M24 is mafia then OM can't be I think.

On page 6 OM pushes M24 more
4. Duskfall98
Bottom of page 5, Tommy has so many posts that are just pure filler so far.

On page 10 Tommy has that interaction with me. Kind of a weird interaction mostly since atp I was just fishing for reactions to proposing a Tommy + Whydon scum team and his response is infuriatingly NAI.
5. CaffeineBoost

6. Panic Station

If I was host, I'd be screaming internally.
Man, I still think this quote is really scummy. It just has those vibes you know?
7. Schiavetto
Schia enters the thread trying to prod a usually afk slot for activity, it's always going to be WIFOM but I usually see that as town minded. Basically same thing I did with the PS angleshoot, get people to talk early.
9. M24
I mean sure I guess, Schiavetto asking for my opinion could probably just be them trying to get a read into me, or fake it and try to gain trust as maf.
Man this post just feels so heavily constructed.

I can understand where you're coming from, i was just feeling uneasy about that specific read.

I'll try to think a bit more before bringing out those kind of claims, prob shouldnt have mentionned it anyway
Then again this post is actually super pure
 
Pages 1-10

1. Thunder~BALLZ
The only real thing he seems to do in these first 10 pages is push on me, then never expands on it then gives up.
2. Whydon

3. OM


OM's initial post, starts off saying CB Is town, I haven't really seen any reason to back this up at this point, all CB's done so far is talk about set-up spec so this read is a bit odd.

OM follows up by saying he thinks CB is town because CB started an RVS vote and is "content driven" neither of which are really NAI in my opinion.



OM's 2nd foray into the game. Throws sus on M24. If M24 is mafia then OM can't be I think.

On page 6 OM pushes M24 more
4. Duskfall98
Bottom of page 5, Tommy has so many posts that are just pure filler so far.

On page 10 Tommy has that interaction with me. Kind of a weird interaction mostly since atp I was just fishing for reactions to proposing a Tommy + Whydon scum team and his response is infuriatingly NAI.
5. CaffeineBoost

6. Panic Station


Man, I still think this quote is really scummy. It just has those vibes you know?
7. Schiavetto
Schia enters the thread trying to prod a usually afk slot for activity, it's always going to be WIFOM but I usually see that as town minded. Basically same thing I did with the PS angleshoot, get people to talk early.
9. M24

Man this post just feels so heavily constructed.


Then again this post is actually super pure
to clarify, scummiest to least scummy, or just in order?

i'll say TBZ giving up on things really does seem like the standard TBZ play, so NAI there. Schia prodding for activity is Town!Schia i think, but it's been a little while since i played a game with em.

anti-OM is something i can get behind, while reading the first 5(?) pages of this game at day start, he hit me immediately as scum.

[BOLD]Vote OM[/BOLD]
 
is that a bad thing? i see wallpost and i click quote. better summary than anyone else has given me this whole time

Yeah former has been under suspect just kind of odd you hoped on the first person to say anything, I was town reading panic though.

Basically half the game has tried to kill M24 who is playing their second game as if they don't have much mafia experience. Personally I feel like this slot is pretty clearly town and people are mistaking subpar town play for mafia play (though tbh he's p good for his first game anyways imo)

Schia is pretty widely townread and has been maybe most constructive in thread so far

Caffeine is mostly tunneling M24 which is uncommon for him and memeing, which is common for him.

Former had some bad reactions to my pressure on him according to other people, he claims that omgus is not scummy, I'm inclined to agree and town tends to actually have the feeling of "wtf why are you pushing me" more than scum does. He has been kind of underwhelming to now though and I particularly don't like how he was trying to write off M24 as mafia earlier considering his experience, he should know better (he has reconsidered that though).

Whydon is afk whydon will be afk all day he wants me killed because of a gut read, he hasn't read the game though idt.

Tbz chimed in with a kill former early then not much more.

Om has been kind of here and there he's doing stuff and interacting with schia, I think he's slight town lean but kind of unsure on this slot 100 percent it's up to interpretation for sure.
 
Pages 11-20

1. Thunder~BALLZ
Page 10, TBZ says he thinks PS is town. Doesn't elaborate.
2. Whydon
Hmm whydon says its lowkey tommy after I bring up the concept of them being a scum team.
3. OM
Anyways I'm on break so here are a quick skim's thoughts

- Liking duskfall a lot more after the panic / him interactions

- Liking panic a lot less, actually.
  • Case on M24 feels a lot less natural than his first set of posts, more like a gradual build to an eventual plurshift off of him than a read he believes in.
  • He takes schia / me interactions out of context, but I think it can easily be him not comprehending the interactions properly so ehhh on this point, but I'd like to see more schia / panic interactions because this ain't hitting right
  • This being said, I heavily agree with the possibility of a schia / M24 scumteam. I'm kind of feeling a townlean on schiavetto but I'm like, kind feeling this as a possible team and after the me / him / M24 interactions.
- Still think caffbo is town!!

- Schiavetto whenever you got time and wanna hit me with a case or questions im down for that, I think you said you wanted more of me / M24 @ one point?

- Former crossing with dusk is my least favourite interaction just because of how nonsensical it feels
I still really think their insistence here that caffbo is town is weird. I do feel like if caffbo flips mafia OM is probably also mafia.

Also really interesting here that they push a M24/Schia scum team but then focus on me.
4. Duskfall98
Yeah rereading page 12, I think Dusk really just mistook how serious I was about the Whydon/Tommy read.
5. CaffeineBoost
The time has come for bold action
I am the bold action man
Vote: Panic Station
Sorry, you just seem like you're complaining about the strategy as scum.
First meaningful content I see from CB is here. I feel like I should be able to draw something here from them copying my read but I really can't think of if that's more towny or scummy.

CB also does the "Tommy is town for doing this thing that I did" which I still find to be pretty scummy.
6. Panic Station shubaka17
I-...learned shubaka just subbed in from this list lmao.

Caff Town - host meta
Tommy Town - kicked off the game with a pro-Town strat
OM Townlean -
Former Townlean - 437 does a little boxing in of its own and I like that

Whydon null - he exists :sparkleshrug:
Thunder null - I'm waiting to hear back from him on my meta because this isn't the first time this has bothered me

M24 scumlean - When he gave a take, he did so easily. When it came under scrutiny, he became self conscious about it.
Schiavetto scumlean - 5 posts between being agreeing with a scumread on Tommy and being null on him.
Tommy read is weird, same with reading me town here for "boxing". Hm, I like the detail with Schia though, I think people who spot those kind of details tend to break town more often than mafia.

7. Schiavetto

9. M24
Inno imo:

CaffeineBoost
whydon

Probably not?:
Schiavetto
Dusk
OM

No read:
Pretty much everyone else
Hrm, again, so weird having whydon on the town list here.


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Can I just say that reading back on the first 16 pages, I hate how much we focused on claims at the start? So much wasted times/posts that got us absolutely nothing.

So far a lot of this game feels like people just reading too hard in stuff that isn't there. I haven't really seen any real flash points here, but I do think peoples interaction with M24 is perhaps the most interesting stuff to come out of the game thus far.
 
Btw my take on omgus to elaborate: can come for either, though I don't think it's complete wifom, it depends on the player and context greatly.

That being said mafia know that omgus is generally viewed as scummy (whether that is correct or not) former knows it is for sure and idt it's scummy in the situation because it's formers reaction to a but of pressure from me is to try create a 1v1 and push me back? Could be wrong i don't feel too strongly here.

But it is important to note that when town is scumread, they feel something is wrong and sense injustice because they should be townread, they are town, they think they are towny, why does the person pushing them not see how towny they are?

Converse mafia knows they are mafia they know you are correct so they sense mess injustice naturally. Just stuff to note on the topic of omgus sorry for ranting.
 
Bro M24 is literally town can people stop trying to sus him
Was this in response to me? I think I actually townread them after rereading some of the early posts. There's some really pure stuff there that I don't think comes from mafia.
to clarify, scummiest to least scummy, or just in order?
Just in player list order.

Former had some bad reactions to my pressure on him according to other people, he claims that omgus is not scummy, I'm inclined to agree and town tends to actually have the feeling of "wtf why are you pushing me" more than scum does. He has been kind of underwhelming to now though and I particularly don't like how he was trying to write off M24 as mafia earlier considering his experience, he should know better (he has reconsidered that though).

Yeah there were just a few posts that made me go "Oh this is obvious mafia talk" so I pocketed that read and focused attention elsewhere.
 
Btw my take on omgus to elaborate: can come for either, though I don't think it's complete wifom, it depends on the player and context greatly.

That being said mafia know that omgus is generally viewed as scummy (whether that is correct or not) former knows it is for sure and idt it's scummy in the situation because it's formers reaction to a but of pressure from me is to try create a 1v1 and push me back? Could be wrong i don't feel too strongly here.

But it is important to note that when town is scumread, they feel something is wrong and sense injustice because they should be townread, they are town, they think they are towny, why does the person pushing them not see how towny they are?

Converse mafia knows they are mafia they know you are correct so they sense mess injustice naturally. Just stuff to note on the topic of omgus sorry for ranting.
And yeah, I think Yeti is probably an example of someone who OMGUS's regardless of alignment.

I'm pretty much that same way too, I know my tone naturally comes off as scummy from prior experience, so I tend to be very aggressive towards people who scumread me as kind of a natural defense against getting lynched/mislynched. But unfortunately I think that's getting me sus'd from newer players which kind of sucks.
 
Me sipping my tempranillo while Former gives us the recap
Give me a bit, did 1-20. 21-3x next but that's a lot of reading.

Really my general feeling so far is that this night has been significantly less interesting than people have thought it's been. I don't think there's really any great slips here so far but I do think there's been enough interesting stuff for future days.

So far I'm pretty happy with voting whydon/no-voting (aka the same thing) and just seeing things in relation to the nightkill.


tl;dr, I don't think there's a lot of meaningful stuff to read this day, but I think there's a lot of content that'll look good/bad depending on who flips from the NK.
 
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