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NOC 9p Matrix 6 Game Thread [GAME OVER]

Hi! Good Morning everybody

Former said:
I think OM is kind of a lost cause and idk what their alignment is. But I agree that M24 is too pure to be mafia and so with this time I want to see if I can get them to change their mind.
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I am only a lost cause because I A. believe you are a scum and B. will not get over it because you have not given a sufficient defense towards it. The discrediting you have been doing of me since I began to scumread you has been annoying at best
 
OM said:
Hi! Good Morning everybody



I am only a lost cause because I A. believe you are a scum and B. will not get over it because you have not given a sufficient defense towards it. The discrediting you have been doing of me since I began to scumread you has been annoying at best
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The only thing you've accused me of is WIFOM and using appeal to emotions.

Neither of which are alignment indicative.
 
Former said:
The only thing you've accused me of is WIFOM and using appeal to emotions.

Neither of which are alignment indicative.
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Disagree, as schiavetto expanded on my point here:

Schiavetto said:
Opinion in 686 still stands, yes. I think OM's accusation holds water, inasmuch as Former's response to Tommy's read on him (or more precisely, Tommy's scumpool) uses emotional appeal as a point of departure (in OM's words, guilting Tommy by professing disappointment). He then goes on to prop up Tommy's read as an instance of a more general scum tactic (posing two potential votes as a kind of false dilemma) without actually interrogating the post itself to determine if that is in fact what's happening. Tommy directly calls him out on this, and Former's response is to ask Tommy to provide the reasoning again.

When OM picks up on this, and accuses him of gaslighting, Former is far more preoccupied with picking at the wording and reacting to the pushback he drew (all on his own, mind you) than he is with actually getting caught up with the thread. When I directly asked him to elaborate on two of his reads, his response was riddled with disclaimers. I have absolutely no issues with someone unable to dedicate time to the game for reasons beyond their control--hell, as someone who works ridiculous hours and has mostly only been able to keep up my current activity due to schools being off for the holiday weekend, I'm pretty sympathetic to anyone in that position. But to wield that excuse in the way that Former has after making the kinds of plays Former has is, for me, problematic. It's a means of shirking accountability for flimsy/disingenuous posts, and whether it comes from town or scum, it is not helpful . Without any word on his part concerning, oh idunno, the better part of the game, I'm not willing to commit to a town read: he lives on the ruddier side of null for me. I would not be heartbroken if he were to go today.
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Your day 1 pre that "catchup" you did was disingenuous, which only comes from a mafia viewpoint.

On the flip side, what you've accused me of is being caffeineboost's partner and going in to protect him, and then further discredit me by putting me in a pool with no partner reads to my name.
 
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