I've played with this team quite a bit, I certainly am enjoying it, but I am struggling a lot against stall. I am certainly not the best player, but i've put more time into this time than any other's ive used before and would love some pointers on this team.
The point of the team is to wear the other team down with Fini and Kommo-o, looking for opportunities to bring in Volc or Metagross to either sweep or break walls. Clef can keep the team healthy, Fini can keep status off them, and Ninja can clean for the team.
Tapu Fini @ Leftovers
Ability: Misty Surge
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 248 HP / 12 Def / 16 SpA / 40 SpD / 192 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Whirlpool
- Taunt
- Nature's Madness
Pretty basic, but its the backbone of the team. Fast Taunt helps against stall and entry hazards, and while hazards aren't a massive problem for the team its better than nothing. Nature's Madness chunks switch ins and helps set up opportunities for the rest of the team, Moonblast is just stab, and whirlpool can trap things, although other water moves are much stronger, the ability to trap some stall can really help, scald always felt a little weird since you can't burn in the terrain. Misty surge helps every single member of the team, immunity to status' are a godsend for my team. She forms a pretty good fairy, dragon, steel core with Kommo-o and Metagross but they aren't perfect, mostly lacking in EQ resist. I feel she is very overworked in stall matches, trying to keep up misty terrain and taunts, and preserving health to stall with whirlpool. But outside of that she helps the whole team do their jobs.
Kommo-o (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Bulletproof
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 Spe
Impish Nature
- Body Press
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Iron Defense
I've gained a ton of respect for Kommo-o from this set, bulletproof protects Metagross from shadowballs, and sludge bombs from Fini. I have seen quite a few sound focused pokemon, but I prefer bulletproof still. I tried out a few other moves including taunt and dragon tail in the last slot and while they all have been alright, iron defense gives her so much power both defensively and offensively its hard to take off. I have been considering removing earthquake, as it does threaten some pokemon, but with no attack investment its really a sad earthquake, but without it it leaves her high and dry against ghost types. While she can kill chansey, she is absolutely walled by Pex.
Metagross @ Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Zen Headbutt
- Hammer Arm
- Pursuit
This is the set I am least confident in, while she certainly has a lot of power behind her hits, I often find her a little underwhelming in situations where I really need her to pull through. Meteor mash and Hammer arm have come through a lot, just powering through teams. But the other two moves have either felt underwhelming or just useless. Pursuit feels gimmicky, but bullet punch didn't feel as impact as I wanted. Everyone knows to keep their Pex away from the zen headbutt, and between many different physical walls, metagross just can't handle breaking through them reliably. And even outside of stall she still feels unbalanced, preforming more like a revenge killer rather than a wallbreaker.
Volcarona (F) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Quiver Dance
- Flamethrower
- Bug Buzz
- Roost
Volcarona used to be scared of rocks, but now really only fears status', and with misty terrain it really helps her get a lot of opportunities to set up, and if answers have been taken care of she can tear up whole teams. Roost gives her a ton of longevity and chances to just prod at their defenses, but again, gets super walled by stall, and with little to no way to punish switches, other than crossing your fingers for burns or sp. def drops. Roost also helps take some work away from Celf, letting her focus on healing the core above.
Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Teleport
- Moonblast
- Wish
- Protect
Another pokemon that works amazingly well in anything that isn't stall. She has unaware to stop set up sweepers and not be totally passive, I have had way more success with this physical variant than the special one. And while magic guard is good, misty terrain once more can help her out there. Even when used as just a pivot she can bring in Volcarona or Ninja super easily with teleport. And help the main core regain health.
Greninja-Ash @ Choice Specs
Ability: Battle Bond
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Dark Pulse
- Hydro Pump
- Water Shuriken
- Spikes
Another really really basic set, but I think it works. I needed a fast hard hitting cleaner/revenge killer and he checks all the marks. Priority, very high power hydro, and spikes to punish easy switches. But in stall, she is so frail its hard to get a k-o or survive enough hits to start breaking through. In non-stall games spikes feel really hard to use, but I suppose that isn't a bad thing, the other moves are more than enough for his role in the team.
paste bin: https://pokepast.es/70a3056077032189
So I guess in summary, Metagross' set feels weird, Volcarona and Celf are sorta useless vs stall but assets outside of that, and Fini is always a little overworked but in stall is very very overworked.
Also thank you so much for looking for my team!!!
The point of the team is to wear the other team down with Fini and Kommo-o, looking for opportunities to bring in Volc or Metagross to either sweep or break walls. Clef can keep the team healthy, Fini can keep status off them, and Ninja can clean for the team.
Tapu Fini @ Leftovers
Ability: Misty Surge
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 248 HP / 12 Def / 16 SpA / 40 SpD / 192 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Whirlpool
- Taunt
- Nature's Madness
Pretty basic, but its the backbone of the team. Fast Taunt helps against stall and entry hazards, and while hazards aren't a massive problem for the team its better than nothing. Nature's Madness chunks switch ins and helps set up opportunities for the rest of the team, Moonblast is just stab, and whirlpool can trap things, although other water moves are much stronger, the ability to trap some stall can really help, scald always felt a little weird since you can't burn in the terrain. Misty surge helps every single member of the team, immunity to status' are a godsend for my team. She forms a pretty good fairy, dragon, steel core with Kommo-o and Metagross but they aren't perfect, mostly lacking in EQ resist. I feel she is very overworked in stall matches, trying to keep up misty terrain and taunts, and preserving health to stall with whirlpool. But outside of that she helps the whole team do their jobs.
Kommo-o (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Bulletproof
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 Spe
Impish Nature
- Body Press
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Iron Defense
I've gained a ton of respect for Kommo-o from this set, bulletproof protects Metagross from shadowballs, and sludge bombs from Fini. I have seen quite a few sound focused pokemon, but I prefer bulletproof still. I tried out a few other moves including taunt and dragon tail in the last slot and while they all have been alright, iron defense gives her so much power both defensively and offensively its hard to take off. I have been considering removing earthquake, as it does threaten some pokemon, but with no attack investment its really a sad earthquake, but without it it leaves her high and dry against ghost types. While she can kill chansey, she is absolutely walled by Pex.
Metagross @ Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Zen Headbutt
- Hammer Arm
- Pursuit
This is the set I am least confident in, while she certainly has a lot of power behind her hits, I often find her a little underwhelming in situations where I really need her to pull through. Meteor mash and Hammer arm have come through a lot, just powering through teams. But the other two moves have either felt underwhelming or just useless. Pursuit feels gimmicky, but bullet punch didn't feel as impact as I wanted. Everyone knows to keep their Pex away from the zen headbutt, and between many different physical walls, metagross just can't handle breaking through them reliably. And even outside of stall she still feels unbalanced, preforming more like a revenge killer rather than a wallbreaker.
Volcarona (F) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Quiver Dance
- Flamethrower
- Bug Buzz
- Roost
Volcarona used to be scared of rocks, but now really only fears status', and with misty terrain it really helps her get a lot of opportunities to set up, and if answers have been taken care of she can tear up whole teams. Roost gives her a ton of longevity and chances to just prod at their defenses, but again, gets super walled by stall, and with little to no way to punish switches, other than crossing your fingers for burns or sp. def drops. Roost also helps take some work away from Celf, letting her focus on healing the core above.
Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Teleport
- Moonblast
- Wish
- Protect
Another pokemon that works amazingly well in anything that isn't stall. She has unaware to stop set up sweepers and not be totally passive, I have had way more success with this physical variant than the special one. And while magic guard is good, misty terrain once more can help her out there. Even when used as just a pivot she can bring in Volcarona or Ninja super easily with teleport. And help the main core regain health.
Greninja-Ash @ Choice Specs
Ability: Battle Bond
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Dark Pulse
- Hydro Pump
- Water Shuriken
- Spikes
Another really really basic set, but I think it works. I needed a fast hard hitting cleaner/revenge killer and he checks all the marks. Priority, very high power hydro, and spikes to punish easy switches. But in stall, she is so frail its hard to get a k-o or survive enough hits to start breaking through. In non-stall games spikes feel really hard to use, but I suppose that isn't a bad thing, the other moves are more than enough for his role in the team.
paste bin: https://pokepast.es/70a3056077032189
So I guess in summary, Metagross' set feels weird, Volcarona and Celf are sorta useless vs stall but assets outside of that, and Fini is always a little overworked but in stall is very very overworked.
Also thank you so much for looking for my team!!!
