A brainteaser (pokemon related).

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If you dont know pokemon you wont be able to solve it, but it doesnt really have anything to do with actually playing the games..

OK, so you are battling an Arceus, but you have forgotten what colour goes with what typing. It is going to select Judgement over and over again, If you can figure out its typing you can beat it, but you only have three pokemon you can sacrifice.

So what three pokemon can you send that will allow you to know what type of Arceus you are facing (it could be any type), based only on the message that it gives you (eg. It's Super Effective!) from Arceus's attacks?

I have a solution, but it might not be the only one!

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Registeel, Shedinja, Heatran =]

Mine works like.

Registeel comes in. Has 3 weaks and 11 resists.

If the judgement is one of registeels 3 weaks. Shedina comes in, sharing one weak to Fire.

If fire is the typing of the attack heatran takes no damage.

=]

If it isnt one of its weaks
 
I think I found a solution with only two pokemon, but I might have misunderstood how to get the answer.

Torterra (Grass/Ground)
Heatran (Fire/Steel) with Flash Fire

I think I did it wrong... Nevermind.

I was thinking that I needed to make it so that both pokemon wouldn't receive the same message from any Judgement type. Unfortunately, thats not the case.

@toy - What if Judgement isn't one of Registeels weaks? Chances are that it will resist or take neutral damage from Judgement, and you won't be able to figure out what type it is. For example: Normal, Grass, Ice, Bug, Flying, Dragon, and Steel would all be resisted by Registeel, would not affect Shedinja, and would be NVE on Heatran. You wouldn't be able to tell which type it was unless you used a damage calculator to deduce that Grass, Ice, Bug, and Steel were 4x resisted by Heatran.
 
Same here until I reread the OP.

So what three pokemon can you send that will allow you to know what type of Arceus you are facing (it could be any type), based only on the message that it gives you (eg. It's Super Effective!) from Arceus's attacks?
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We need to use the three pokemon to find out what Arceus's type is, but they would have to be able to work for all 17 types. Very difficult unless you use Kecleon.

EDIT: I just found this, and it should be extremely helpful.
http://pokemon.marriland.com/diamond_pearl/team_builder/
 
toy said:
Registeel, Shedinja, Heatran =]
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That way you can't tell whether Arceus is Ground or Fighting type! Both are SE against Registeel and Heatran, and do not affect sheddy.

EDIT: Yeah also the NVE moves metalgross mentioned :x

This is certainly much harder than it seems...
 
I'm close!

Breloom
Bronzong (Levitate)
Golem

The only two types that would react the same way with these 3 are bug and ghost.
 
Celebi 1

Weaknesses - Fire, Ice, Poison, Flying, Bug, Ghost Psychic
Resistances - Water, Electric, Grass, Fighting, Ground
Normal - Normal, Steel, Dragon, Rock

Depending on the the message, you know a few that it could be.

Heatran 2

My logic will be using celebi's weaknesses and resistances, and bolding overlapping weaknesses, and underlining resistances.

Weaknesses - Fire, Ice, Poison, Flying, Bug, Ghost, Dark
Resistances - Water, Electric, Grass, Fighting, Ground
Normal - Normal, Steel, Dragon, Rock

So, basically, I'm in a conundrum, because I'm doing this as I go ahaha.

HERE WE GO.

Girantina 3

I'm going to color super effectives blue, and not very effectives as yellow. And again, red means doesn't effect.

Weaknesses - Fire, Ice, Poison, Flying, Bug, Ghost, Dark
Resistances - Water, Electric, Grass, Fighting, Ground
Normal - Normal, Steel, Dragon, Rock

I ran into a bit of a problem.

With my setup, you can't determine whether Arceus is Ghost or Dark if it's one of the two.

X_X

I GIVE UP
 
Hmmm. I'm too tired to tackle this now, but I'm guessing you NEED Girafarig, a Normal, or a fighting type to determine between Dark and Ghost without damage calcing, which is disallowed by the OP mandating it be determined solely by the game's messages....
 
ive come to the conclusion that you need to use single types because double types give you that much more weakness.
 
But more weaknesses are good imo, as it provides more detail to narrow down the type. I tried using Girafarig as per Elminster suggested (to get ghost/dark), but I was left with 2 weaknesses and 1 resistance, which provides shit all information.
 
I almost got it, except I can't differentiate between normal and poison:
Poliwrath, Salamence, Rhyperior
is normal and poison all I can't tell?
 
can you choose an "either or" based on the result from one of the first two?

ie - shedinja, if immune choose __, if not choose __

if so, it makes it a lot easier, if not, it makes it really hard <_<
 
1.Skarmory-weakness=fire and electric
resists: normal, flying, steel, psychic, poison(immune), ground(immune), ghost, dark, bug, dragon, and grass.

neutral to: ice, fighting, rock, and water.

2.Tentacruel-weakness that it shares with skarm-electric

important resists in this case- fighting, water, and ice.

leaving only electric, fire, and rock.

3.Flygon-immune to electric, resists fire, and resists rock.

Don't think I missed anything soo.....Do I win?
 
mirza said:
1.Skarmory-weakness=fire and electric
resists: normal, flying, steel, psychic, poison(immune), ground(immune), ghost, dark, bug, dragon, and grass.

neutral to: ice, fighting, rock, and water.

2.Tentacruel-weakness that it shares with skarm-electric

important resists in this case- fighting, water, and ice.

leaving only electric, fire, and rock.

3.Flygon-immune to electric, resists fire, and resists rock.

Don't think I missed anything soo.....Do I win?
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you cant tell if Arceus is Normal or Flying - type.
 
I think this would work:

Geodue
Pidgey
Machop

I'll edit this if I find something wrong with it, but at first glance it looks pretty good.

With this you can rule out:
Ground, Electric, Flying, Dark, Physic, Grass, Ice, Bug, Fire, Fighting, Rock, Ghost

You cannot rule out:
Water, Steel, Normal, Poison, Dragon

It seems I still need to work on this.
 
Any pokemon that has frisk Stantler, Shuppet, Banette are all of these that can learn it. You can just see what plate its holding.

Oops sorry I didn't read the last part, I knew it couldn't of been that easy.
 
Oh Kecleon.. Well, ok Kecleon is banned! You just happen to have trained every single pokemon but Kecleon.. Shucks!

Have a nice day.
 
Ok here we go, I think I got it.
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Based on the OP's post, your 3 pokemon don't have to resist all 17 types, you just need to be able to figure out Arceus' type by sacrificing 3 pokemon. So here's what I have:

1. Lucario-steel/fighting

Lucario is sacrificed and this is what you know:

If SE:

Arcues is either: fire, fighting, or ground

If NVE, Arceus is: normal, dark, dragon, ice, grass, steel, ghost, bug, rock, poison(immune)

And for the rest, it could be 4 other types. OK Moving on.

2.Bibarel-normal/water

Bibarel helps you determine whether it's a ghost or a dark(if either).

By sacrifcing it you know Arcues is:

(In case of SE)- fighting, grass, or electric

If NVE-ghost(immune), steel, fire, water, ice

leaving only electric, fighting, ground, psychic, that haven't been covered. Now then:

3.Claydol-psychic/ground

Claydol's levitate makes it immune to ground, it's ground typing makes it immune to electric, and then psychic resists fighting, and psychic.

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So, let's make a checklist.

Normal: resisted by Lucario, other 2 take neutral.

Fire-resisted by Bibarel, SE against Lucario, neutral to Claydol

Water-SE to Claydol, neutral to Lucario, resisted by Bibarel

Electric-Claydol's immune, Bibarel takes SE, Lucario takes neutral

Grass-NVE against Lucario, SE to Claydol and Bibarel

Ice-Resisted by Lucario and Bibarel, SE to Claydol

Fighting-SE against Lucario and Bibarel, NVE to Cladol

Poison-Nothing to Lucario, neutral to Bibarel and Claydol

Ground-Claydol's immune, SE on Lucario, neutral to Bibarel

Flying-Neutral to everyone

Psychic- resisted by Claydol, neutral to Bibarel and Lucario

Bug-SE to Claydol, resisted by Lucario, neutral to Bibarel

Rock-Resisted by Lucario and Claydol, neutral to Bibarel

Ghost-Bibarel's immune, Lucario resists, Claydol's weak to it

Dragon-NVE to Lucario, other 2 are neutral

Dark-SE to Claydol, resisted by Lucario, Neutral to Bibarel.

Steel- NVE to Bibarel and Lucario, neutral to Claydol.

As you can see, the only type not resisted, or immune to by the 3 pokemon is flying. So after sacrificing these 3, you can tell the type and if none resist it or are immune, then it's flying.
 
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