a different hack-related thread

Hacking: do you keep it clean or over-do it?

  • I keep it clean, I like fair fights.

    Votes: 91 85.8%
  • I over-do it, I love watching as the person gets owned by an exploding haxkarp.

    Votes: 3 2.8%
  • Depends on if the other person is over-doing it or keeping it clean.

    Votes: 12 11.3%

  • Total voters
    106
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People always seem to have complaints about hackers, either being lazy or destroying the community. Yet the people complaining rarely try to understand WHY people hack. I use pokesav, not because I'm lazy, but because it's nigh impossible to find the time to breed for/check/re-hatch for I.V.s in between school, homework, girlfriend, chores, and sleep. I do try my best to keep my pokemon as clean as possible and I refuse to trade them to others for their own protection, yet i still receive a lot of b.s. about hacking. I realize it seems lazy, but its the only way I can fully enjoy battling people who don't have to do anything and can do I.V./E.V. 24/7. The poll is only for hackers(you don't need to post, feel free to if you want to). Also, please don't flame, it just makes the community look like its hostile.
 
Personally, I have nothing agaisnt hacking as long as its legal, and they dont try to trade it to me. I guess people hack because they dont have time to breed/level up/ev train etc.
 
wtf is the point of this poll, no one wants to fight a wondergard spiritomb and no one is going to adamit to hacking during a fight unless they want to get blacklisted or banned.
EDIT: I forgot to add its fun hack while fighting a friend though
 
This is a competitive battling community, so here it's going to ALWAYS be fair stats/abilities/moves and such or you're probably getting banned.

Among friends, it might be fun to play around with screwy movesets, but that's not what this site is for.
 
If you want to battle with 31 / 31 / 31/ 31 / 31 / 31 pokes use shoddy.
 
If you want to battle with 31 / 31 / 31/ 31 / 31 / 31 pokes use shoddy.

EXACTLY

You want to hack something, imo do something fun for kicks: rock head aero w/ Head Smash / Brave Bird / Flare Blitz / Wood Hammer... Or maybe Volt Tackle... you know, something fun! Yes, they'll obviously know it's hacked, but if it's someone you know it's great for a laugh.
 
On one hand, I have a non hacked- team thats completely bred and EV trained legitimately. But that gets boring, I want to change things up with crazy 6v6 trick room teams, Water themed teams, and small creatures teams, which I don't have the time and focus for.

On the other hand, my friend and I have Hack battles to see who can abuse the game as much as possible. Wonderguard spiritomb is obvious and done to death. No-Guard Deoxys E (the biggest bitch to fight with sheer cold, Zap cannon, Dynamic Punch, and Stone edge) Shadow tag Blissey. Its just a sick back and forth on who can not only come up with disgusting game breakers, but also counters for those breakers.
 
Personally, I am against hacking Pokemon. I don't buy the common hacker's excuses of "not having enough time" and stuff; I go to college, work, have a life, etc. as well, and I still find time to EV train and breed competitive Pokemon for DP Wifi. Granted, there are probably people who are busier than I, but if you still have time to do a decent hack for a team, that's time you could be putting forth to getting a team legitly. So if you want to use your 31/31/31/31/31/31 Pokemon and still play competitively, head over to Shoddy or something, but don't ruin DP wifi with hacked Pokemon.
 
I never got the chance to add my 2 cents in the other hacking threads so I might as well say what I need to.

Not and I repeat, not every hacker in this world hacks 31 IV's straight across the board, there are hackers that hack perfectly believable and fair IV's for example.

4/29/6/15/19/30.

What I have noticed is that when someone mentions hacker, everyone automatically assumes people that hack 31 all stat IV pokemon, which is not true, yeah most hackers do that, but if I hacked my pokemon, I would certainly not I know alot of hackers out there that don't hack 31 all stat pokemon.

If people are going to hack their pokemon, that should atleast hack them so the IV's are fair and believable, those hackers I respect.
 
People whine to much about this matter. If people dont have time, then let them hack. Alot of people here are just angry because they have non 31 in all legit pokemon and worked for it so hard. And thaht is why they start whining about ' unfair' and 'lazy '. Guess what. Life is NOT fair, and you will encounter lots of other things that are unfair.

To those people I want to say: If people want to hack (legal hack), then let them. It's not your choice to make. Whats the point of saying something like: 'this is so unfair, go fucking breed for your own pokemon.' Will that make the hacker stop hacking? No, it probably wont make him stop. So why do people still say that? Because they feel the urge to make everyone clear that if they breed for their pokemon, then everybody should breed for their pokemon. Not fair if someone would be done with the pokemon in 1 minute where you spend 1 month breeding on.

Hacking is indeed unfair, but that doesnt give other people the right to call someone lazy or a fake. Do the hackers hurt you by hacking? Well probably mentally, because it makes you angry that they get the pokemon so much easier.

Getting pokemon legit gives you more satisfaction, so for the people who always complain about hacking; why the hell do you fucking whine!!!!! You have a pokemon whee you breeded for so you should be proud of yourself. Who the fuck cares that the other kid has a fucking hacked pokemon?!!
Well probably you, but when you do, just think of something else.


There is nothing rong with legit hacking people. If you can't stand the fact that someone hacks, then just do not pay attention to the person that uses them, but save yourself the trouble of writing nasty remarks about htem. It wont help you, and it wont help them.
 
Um, just to say, hacking 31 all stat pokemon is not legit hacking, legit hacking is when you hack fair IV's, Ev's, moves and abilities, like the example I gave in my previous post.
 
That is not the main point fom my post, but it seems like you feel the need to say something to make my point look invalid. My Point is that if people choose to hack legits, let them.
 
People always seem to have complaints about hackers, either being lazy or destroying the community. Yet the people complaining rarely try to understand WHY people hack. I use pokesav, not because I'm lazy, but because it's nigh impossible to find the time to breed for/check/re-hatch for I.V.s in between school, homework, girlfriend, chores, and sleep. I do try my best to keep my pokemon as clean as possible and I refuse to trade them to others for their own protection, yet i still receive a lot of b.s. about hacking. I realize it seems lazy, but its the only way I can fully enjoy battling people who don't have to do anything and can do I.V./E.V. 24/7. The poll is only for hackers(you don't need to post, feel free to if you want to). Also, please don't flame, it just makes the community look like its hostile.

My main issue with hacks is if people try to pass the hack as legit. I'm sure no one will mind battling you if you tell them you hack first.

You don't have a girlfriend. If you did, you wouldn't be playing Pokémon. (kidding of course!)

I have the same dilemma in having no time to breed and EV train; in 2 months I've managed to catch some Dittos and breed just one Pokémon. Sometimes Pokésav looks really tempting, especially since SRing for things like Jirachi is really really boring. But when I took my one Pokémon and put it into my "battle friends" team, it tore people apart. It's really rewarding to see your Pokémon be the best it can be, even if you only have a few minutes a day to run the breeding route or look for Magikarps or something.

However, I don't see why people would mind battling a legal hacked team in casual play. In tournaments/Battle Tower/PBR I can understand, but not in general. Just don't do all 252's, Wonder Guard Everything, or stuff like that please.

tl;dr: Just tell us if you battle with hacks and/or go play Shoddy
 
People whine to much about this matter. If people dont have time, then let them hack. Alot of people here are just angry because they have non 31 in all legit pokemon and worked for it so hard. And thaht is why they start whining about ' unfair' and 'lazy '. Guess what. Life is NOT fair, and you will encounter lots of other things that are unfair.

To those people I want to say: If people want to hack (legal hack), then let them. It's not your choice to make. Whats the point of saying something like: 'this is so unfair, go fucking breed for your own pokemon.' Will that make the hacker stop hacking? No, it probably wont make him stop. So why do people still say that? Because they feel the urge to make everyone clear that if they breed for their pokemon, then everybody should breed for their pokemon. Not fair if someone would be done with the pokemon in 1 minute where you spend 1 month breeding on.

Hacking is indeed unfair, but that doesnt give other people the right to call someone lazy or a fake. Do the hackers hurt you by hacking? Well probably mentally, because it makes you angry that they get the pokemon so much easier.

Getting pokemon legit gives you more satisfaction, so for the people who always complain about hacking; why the hell do you fucking whine!!!!! You have a pokemon whee you breeded for so you should be proud of yourself. Who the fuck cares that the other kid has a fucking hacked pokemon?!!
Well probably you, but when you do, just think of something else.


There is nothing rong with legit hacking people. If you can't stand the fact that someone hacks, then just do not pay attention to the person that uses them, but save yourself the trouble of writing nasty remarks about htem. It wont help you, and it wont help them.

"Life's not fair" is one of the most ridiculous arguments for unfair things ever. I can understand people being upset that they battled a barely-legit hack team. Just tell the challenger you hack and everything will be fine; if the challenger doesn't want to battle you anymore they are dumb.

By the way, it is very hard to take you seriously when you "ask" (without a question mark) why people whine while you've just written four paragraphs of it. Grammar doesn't help either.
 
"Legit hacking" is pretty much an oxymoron.

So you don't have the time or luck to obtain, train, and set up the team you want... but I could imagine why people who DO spend their time and effort could be miffed about playing against someone who just hacked the team they wanted.

Hacking in general should be frowned upon... as it's basically cheating, regardless of how "legit-like" you can make it.

I honestly don't care if you're hacking for your own pleasure, or even things that don't matter (like shinyness, although even that takes away from the value of legit shinies)... but if you're going to face me in a battle, I'd appreciate it if you'd spent the same effort I did in creating your team.

It's not like you couldn't make those competitively IV'd hacked pokemon in stuff like Shoddy.
 
Pokemon should not be about how much free time, or how little of a life, you have. It's a test of skill, much like Chess (albeit with a luck factor). How many chess players do you know that spend weeks or months carving their own pieces?
 
Pokemon should not be about how much free time, or how little of a life, you have. It's a test of skill, much like Chess (albeit with a luck factor). How many chess players do you know that spend weeks or months carving their own pieces?
Only the good ones. :x
 
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