A easy set up team.

1234gjy

I posted this yesterday and no one rated it at all.:pirate:
So I am posting again to try and make people make this team better.
What I was thinking when making this team is to set up safely and sweep teams with my 2 sweepers. It's been really successful for now, but I know it can do better, so plz rate and I am open to any suggestions.
Changes in red.
undecided suggestions taken in Italic.

Aerodactyl Anti SR@focus sash
252atk/252spd@jolly
Pressure
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Eq
Stone Edge
SR
Taunt
A not so needed member of my team since my team has no one weak to SR. Offers the taunt support all teams need. Crunch for Azelf or Eq for heatran, Stone edge for STAB and flying types that I hate a lot(Zapdos, Sala, Gyra).

Rhyperior Tank@leftovers
Solid rock
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Going to switch to a sub salac P-z
132hp/126def/252sp.def@impish
rest
sleep talk
stone edge
Eq
The sleep talker with some special defense bulk to block heatrans, able to survive a SD LO CC STAB from luke. Made to block phsical attacks and heatran's fire blast.

Umbreon Set up Helper@leftovers
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76hp/252def/182sp.def
mean look
baton pass
wish
protect
My set up helper, traps preys(mostly bulky water or a fire breathing heatran) and goes to Kindra to DD up or Hypno to Setup for belly drum. Really important in my team. Mostly traps bulky waters. But I don't know which moves to choose from in the last 2 slots, yawn or wish or taunt or protect.

Rest DD Kindra@chesto berry
Sniper
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Or maybe Gyra?
166hp/160def/96sp.def/86atk
rest
DD
waterfall
outrage
Really easy to set up with this set, has always gotten at least 2 DD every single one of it's battle. Ice shard from mamo only do about 20%.

Smeargle@salac berry
belly drum
bp
sub
spore
Standard belly passing smeargle, don't know what attack to put on it and what
to put it over to avoid taunt.

Scizor@LO
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252atk/56spd/202hp
bullet punch
x-scissor
super power
SD
A pretty normal scizor, SD is for when the passing fails and scizor is all on it's own. It has problem dealing with scarf tran since it can't outspeed it. Not much to say, a power house.

Can go list:aerodactyl,rhyperior
Gone list:Rhyperior

Plz rate.
My first RMT.
Not detailed, I know, I will do better next time.
 
You may want a Special Sweeper to deal with Physical walls, perhaps Alakazam or Porygon-Z over Rhyperior.

I thought that the Belly Drum + Baton Pass Hypno was illegal because the two moves are received from different events. If so, a Smeargle may be preferable since it can set up an Ingrain to stop you being blown away.

Wish may be preferable on Umbreon to offset Hypno's Drum damage.

Why rest on Kingdra? give the foe a moment's peace and your boosts'll all be blown away by that ever irritating, omnipresent Skarmory.

Other than that... well, try these out for now, and see how it goes.
 
bugmaniacbob said:
You may want a Special Sweeper to deal with Physical walls, perhaps Alakazam or Porygon-Z over Rhyperior.

I thought that the Belly Drum + Baton Pass Hypno was illegal because the two moves are received from different events. If so, a Smeargle may be preferable since it can set up an Ingrain to stop you being blown away.

Wish may be preferable on Umbreon to offset Hypno's Drum damage.

Why rest on Kingdra? give the foe a moment's peace and your boosts'll all be blown away by that ever irritating, omnipresent Skarmory.

Other than that... well, try these out for now, and see how it goes.
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Thx for the advice, I will change up rhyperior rest for a special sweeper and hypno for smeargle. I might use wish over protect on umb. I have rest on dra to make it live longer and to kill status, normally I will only rest once to get it's energy back up and kill status and there's chesto berry to avoid people taking advantage, if it has umb's trap support against something that doesn't hit hard, then I would rest until I am satisfied with the DDs and my hp.

Thank you so much for rating my team!
 
Hmmmm SD and Superpower doesnt help much imo. Change to pursuit or something. imo everything needs at least one attacking move. or gets taunted to death. Make sure to put a move on SMeargle.
 
Lol. Dude really, if a Heatran comes in it is almost always scarfed and you will have some serious prediction skills if you predict Heatran switch in. If you need a fighting move try Brick Break as it doesnt lower your Attack and Defense; bascially so you dont have to SD again
 
First off, don't bump your thread anymore, it pisses the mods off and is against the rules.

As a Lead, Aero functions quite well, and is deserving of the spot. Azelf Dies to stone edge, so Earthquake can be used for that slot instead of Crunch. Kingdra's useage is fairly limited in a team that does not utilize rain dance, so Instead I'd opt for DD Gyara, as the type coverage is better, and Intimidate is also helpful for coming in on physical attackers.

Rhyperior has no real place on this team, and your team is lacking a good special attacker as well. I'd recommend this Porygon-Z set that has been working very well for me recently.

name: Sub Salac Porygon-Z
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Nasty Plot
move 3: Tri Attack
move 4: Hidden Power Water
item: Salac Berry
ability: Adaptability
nature: Modest
evs: 6 HP / 128 SpA / 124 SpD / 252 Spe

Hidden Power Water deals massive damage to Tyranitar, Heatran, and can even OHKO Gengar after a boost with some prior damage.

Other than that, Wish is definately a move you want to have on Umbreon.
Wish is the most team oriented healing move, and it allows Umbreon to heal both itself and its teammates. Using Wish in conjunction with Baton Pass and Umbreon's naturally low Speed allows Umbreon to switch out after the opponent's attack on the turn Wish will heal, letting it take the blow and heal something that would normally be unable to switch in due to being too weak to take a hit. Otherwise, Blissey works quite well here too.
I'm not all that supportive of Hypno, but if it works well for you, I see no reason to remove it.

Good luck With your Team! ^___^
 
bellypass is illegal unless theres some platinum tutor I don't know about.

on another note, I'm not entirely sure how well rhyperior does in this metagame, and as far as absorbing status, you may as well make kingdra resttalk dd and then ditch rhyperior, giving you a whole spot to work with. and, assuming you aren't gonna keep hypno since your main strategy is illegal with him, that gives you a whopping 2 slots to work with to help facilitate that scizor or kingdra sweep. honestly, I think that the pokemon who should go in those two spots are mamoswine and scarfgar. with shaymin being a bitch to this team, as well as any sort of speed raising dragon, be it agilinite or ddmence fucking you up, mamo's fast ice shards are certainly welcome to help keep the population under control. another plus for mamo is with blizzard you can lure in and 2HKO skarmory, who otherwise walls your sweepers very hard. and scarfgar, scarfgar also helps you revenge kill, but should some wall get a scarf tricked onto it, that mean look pass will be all the more annoying and pretty much insure a sweep from either scizor or kingdra. and then of course you have the revenge killing aspect that nobody on your team currently provides, thus allowing you to beat most pokemon, even if you're weak to them (though usually this means you sac something somewhere inbetween)... yea. basically, add some speed to the team, through priority and scarfers, so you can live in this metagame. I'm not entirely sure how superpower works on scizor, and possibly roost is more beneficial, allowing you to really set up on trapped opponents. dunno, this is a pretty weird looking team. test some of this shit out and we'll see from there.
 
Stathakis said:
bellypass is illegal unless theres some platinum tutor I don't know about.

on another note, I'm not entirely sure how well rhyperior does in this metagame, and as far as absorbing status, you may as well make kingdra resttalk dd and then ditch rhyperior, giving you a whole spot to work with. and, assuming you aren't gonna keep hypno since your main strategy is illegal with him, that gives you a whopping 2 slots to work with to help facilitate that scizor or kingdra sweep. honestly, I think that the pokemon who should go in those two spots are mamoswine and scarfgar. with shaymin being a bitch to this team, as well as any sort of speed raising dragon, be it agilinite or ddmence fucking you up, mamo's fast ice shards are certainly welcome to help keep the population under control. another plus for mamo is with blizzard you can lure in and 2HKO skarmory, who otherwise walls your sweepers very hard. and scarfgar, scarfgar also helps you revenge kill, but should some wall get a scarf tricked onto it, that mean look pass will be all the more annoying and pretty much insure a sweep from either scizor or kingdra. and then of course you have the revenge killing aspect that nobody on your team currently provides, thus allowing you to beat most pokemon, even if you're weak to them (though usually this means you sac something somewhere inbetween)... yea. basically, add some speed to the team, through priority and scarfers, so you can live in this metagame. I'm not entirely sure how superpower works on scizor, and possibly roost is more beneficial, allowing you to really set up on trapped opponents. dunno, this is a pretty weird looking team. test some of this shit out and we'll see from there.
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I'll want to switch out umb for a roar or whirl winder like maybe skarm? Rhyperiors going to go to the sub salac set of P-z, i tried it before on my other teams and I really liked it, but I want it to be slightly bulky to take hits from tenta or blissey's ice beam of flame thrower, and some phsical bulk to take about only 60% from pert's Eq, so can someone help me with that?

Olie said:
First off, don't bump your thread anymore, it pisses the mods off and is against the rules.
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I was told to that that by a mod in my repost.

BeastlyTyson said:
Lol. Dude really, if a Heatran comes in it is almost always scarfed and you will have some serious prediction skills if you predict Heatran switch in. If you need a fighting move try Brick Break as it doesnt lower your Attack and Defense; bascially so you dont have to SD again
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Heatrans comes in on scizor about 95% of the time when I was playing, and I always switch out if I haven't SD yet after I use superpower(but obviously depends, cuz it's still powerful even after -1).

Olie said:
As a Lead, Aero functions quite well, and is deserving of the spot. Azelf Dies to stone edge, so Earthquake can be used for that slot instead of Crunch. Kingdra's useage is fairly limited in a team that does not utilize rain dance, so Instead I'd opt for DD Gyara, as the type coverage is better, and Intimidate is also helpful for coming in on physical attackers.
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I am changing crunch to Eq now. Kingdra or Gyra? I want to Gyra to run the same idea kingdra is running since it works perfectly, but gyra has a deadly 4times weakness while kingdra has 1 weakness and neutral to everything, so I need more stuff to convince me to switch out kingdra, also, kingdra has access to a STAB outrage where the most powerful phsical attack gyra has is either Aqua taill or waterfall or outrage with no STAB.
 
Olie said:
so, since when does Kingdra get Stone edge, Earthquake and Ice fang and intimidate?
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But dragon+water alreeady gives great coverage, only empoleon resist both attacks, and the huge boost would ignore all the neutral hits and hit really hard without being SE, in Gyrados's case, when you finally DD and someone scarfed like gar can just come in and t-bolt it. Where in kingdra's case it can scare away dragons with outrage and speed boosts, and the neutral attacks don't even OHKO it, and don't forget kingdra's ability other than swift swim:sniper! so the occasional crit would turn into huuuuuuuuuuuuge damage.
 
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