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A guide to making the most out of the GTS

It's a widespread opinion that the Global Trading Station in Jubilife City sucks. You can't see the natures, you can't see more than 5-7 offers, people always ask for impossible Pokemon or ridiculous Pokemon (such as a Dialga for their Ratatta), and you can only search for the Pokemon you've seen. Since the discovery of the GTS cloning trick, people have flooded the GTS with clones, and they also ask for ridiculous offers as well. Other people have said that the GTS is mostly a "seller's market" and to only offer instead of search out for them.

I disagree. I admit it's not pretty, but you can get stuff out of there. You just need to know the tricks and intricies of the crappy system. And I have a lot to show out of it. Whenever I show people the PC in my Diamond game, they all think I've cloned them all. Nope. The 21 Manaphy, four Jirachi, ten Deoxys, nine Lugia and six Ho-Oh, and tons of others, have all come from dogged GTS trading. And the payoff? I have a steady stream of PP Ups and Exp. Shares from the Jubilife Lottery, plus some nice Pokemon to trade for on GameFAQs.

Prepping up

The first step to fluid GTS trading is to open up your horizons. For some reason, the game only shows five Pokemon max when searching. Putting a Pokemon up for trade will increase that number to seven Pokemon. Make it brash and unrealistic, such as asking for a Level 100 Lugia for a Bidoof, or something like that. I have a lovely Psyduck that I put up, looking for a Level 9 and under Mew, for a couple of months now.

The second is to set up a box with hot Pokemon, Pokemon that you are willing to trade that you think are really hot. Trades can boil down to seconds - you need to be able to scroll through the box, select the Pokemon, and hit "trade" as quickly as you can. I set up Box 17 as my trading box, so that I only need to flip one box to the left when making a trade. It's full of Jirachi, Mew, Feebas, and Milotic.

The third is to get Emerald. Emerald cloning is fast, quick, and necessary. Being able to Pal Park the four listed Pokemon above is what keeps my GTS trading economy going.

What do you want to trade?

You need to set rules for yourself on what you're willing to trade. Make the rules and then stick to them. Some of my most regretful trades come from breaking my own rules - such as this one time where I traded away a Mewtwo for a Gardevoir. Now I strictly enforce a "Legendaries for Legendaries" rule, and even then there are specifics to what I will and won't trade. For instance, because I now have a MATTLE Ho-Oh in Emerald, I'm more willing to trade away Ho-Ohs. I Pal Park Jirachi, Mew, Entei, and Raikou specifically to be traded away, and will take nearly any offer for those.

What do you want in return?

This is important too. Set a goal and search for it on a daily basis. I used to be most interested in the psychic trio and Cresselia, but now I just search for Manaphy, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Celebi, and Deoxys. I search out for good-natured Legendaries and Japanese Pokemon.

A tip: Search by levels to increase the number of offers that you can see. For instance, when I look for Manaphy, I always set the parameter to Level 9 and under, then Level 10 and up. When I used to look at the psychic trio (Azelf, Uxie, and Mesprit), I'd search for them normally, then I'd raise it to level 60 and higher. For Giratina and Heatran, I'd raise it to level 80, etc.

Another thing to consider is the practicality of what you're looking for. I want more Dialga and Palkia, but I've searched for them relentlessly and all they keep asking for is Dialga and Palkia. As I'm looking for those two, I'm not willing to trade the ones I already have for them. I'm considering stopping all searches for them because it's just getting too frustrating.

Do two trades at once

Sometimes you don't have what that particular person wants. For instance, someone who had a shiny Dialga was asking for a Level 100 Bastidon. I haven't touched the fossils, so I didn't have one. So I searched, and found one that wanted a Level 100 Lugia in exchange. I traded, and then traded that Bastidon for the shiny Dialga. This isn't always viable because, as I stated before, trades happen really fast. So expect to keep that Pokemon and be happy if/when the real trade - the one that you want - is still up.

Beating the cloners

Learning what cloners want comes from experience. After looking at hundreds of trade offers, I have a rough idea of what people want. A Level 100 Abra is one of the most popular ones that cloners ask. I don't have the guts to do such tedious work just for a few cloners, but there are others. The most common offer is the Level 9 and under Mew. there's an AR code floating around the Internet that creates a Level 9 Mew that the GTS will accept, so if that's your fancy, then hack to beat the cloners. The smartest ones ask for the truly impossible ones, such as Level 9 and under Gabite (Gible evolves into Gabite at Level 24), which again requires hacking. Others ask for Level 100 Jirachi or Level 9 and under Jirachi.

As stated earlier, I keep the "hot Pokemon that cloners ask for" in Box 17 so that I can trade them off as fast as I can. Because they're fast. Many times I've seen an offer and by the time I click on it and select the Pokemon, the GTS says that it was already traded off. It could be that somebody else beat you to it, but I think it's more likely that the cloner logged back on and pulled it off before anybody could try to trade for it.

Keep Rare Candies on hand

One of the best trades I've ever done was getting a Celebi for a Level 40 Croagunk. I didn't have one on me, so I disconnected and fed my Great Marsh Croagunk some 10 rare candies, keeping her from not evolving. The offer was still up there when I got back. Another time I had a Level 98 Linoone and someone was asking for a Level 100 one. I disconnected, fed him two candies, and got back on and made the trade for a Japanese Deoxys. This should only be used as a last resort. As stated earlier, the speed of the GTS makes this unfeasible. Use the rare candies before entering the GTS. For instance, it's never a bad thing to have a Level 100 Linoone, but if you have a Level 98 one, you can't trade him away to someone who is asking for a Level 100 one.

Search frequently

Again, this comes from experience. For some Pokemon, there is a constant and frequent influx of Pokemon going in and out. The highest rate of traffic tends to go to Lugia, Ho-Oh, Celebi, and Deoxys. Other ones are much slower or don't move at all. Once I spent 40 minutes and watched this one person put up a shiny Lugia for trade. Twice I missed it. The other two times the GTS kicked me off, saying that it was "extremely busy." So now when I begin a GTS session, I search for Lugia first, evaluate the offers, then I go back and search for it near the end of the session. Sometimes it does move; other times it's a blank: some old offers have been pulled off, but there aren't any new ones.

Be wary of scammers

I've gotten scammed at least a half dozen times off of the GTS. I traded for two Japanese Jirachi that turned out to be pretty obvious hacks (they were caught in Master Balls). Thanks to the incredibly primitive system, however, there's really not that much you can do to prevent being scammed. Just know your events and the levels. Legit event Deoxys only come at Level 70 and higher. Legit 10 ANIV Celebi only come at Level 70 or higher; Japanese ones can come as low as Level 10. Nicknamed events are obvious hacks, since the ID number is different and cannot be renamed through the name rater.

Despite the hacks I've gotten, I have also gotten Ageto Celebi, four Pokemon Tour Celebi, Negai Boshi and Tanabata Jirachi, and a European 10ANIV Ho-Oh.

Patience

Don't get discouraged. The GTS is hard work, but it does pay off. I've mined two shiny Dialga, two shiny Deoxys, and six event Pokemon off of the GTS. Most recently I traded for a Sassy male Dusknoir that knows Trick Room and Will-O-Wisp, sparing me from wasting my own Trick Room TM.

This idea for this guide was approved by Mekkah.
 
Give special mention to Feebas/Milotic, even though you have already noted them. I put a random Feebas on and got a Palkia for it.
 
WTF? Seriously? I had a list of the top five GTS Pokemon (still on my PC somewhere), and it was Milotic that ruled over Feebas because eveybody has seen Cynthia's Milotic. I've hardly seen Feebas because most people don't have the Pokedex data for it.

Also added spiel about Emerald cloning.
 
Something I do which may or may not be obvious is what I call the Stage and Gender Splits. Say you're looking for a shiny Drifblim. Instead of just having seven results to look at, you can get as many as 28 by doing a search for only males, then only females, and also by searching for Drifloon.

Mid-stages are especially uncommon for people to search for, so you'd be more apt to find some results by including them in your search.
 
that GTS site is kinda cool, but at the same time doesn't show mew or celebi. i didnt have time to check deoxys, jirachi.... but what gives. they're legit, why can't i see anything about them?
 
that GTS site is kinda cool, but at the same time doesn't show mew or celebi. i didnt have time to check deoxys, jirachi.... but what gives. they're legit, why can't i see anything about them?

You have to have seen the Pokemon to trade for it. It's so stupid!

What I find is that people offer they're Pokemon for the exact same one! Maybe it's to get different IV's or natures...
 
I have gotten lucky once or twice. But most ppl want the lvl 9 and under mews, which are impossible to get without cheating. I gave up on it.
 
The first step to fluid GTS trading is to open up your horizons. For some reason, the game only shows five Pokemon max when searching. Putting a Pokemon up for trade will increase that number to seven Pokemon. Make it brash and unrealistic, such as asking for a Level 100 Lugia for a Bidoof, or something like that. I have a lovely Psyduck that I put up, looking for a Level 9 and under Mew, for a couple of months now.
I disagree with this. although puting a pokemon up 4 trade is good, why put something that woulnt be traded when you can put something that will for instance someone trades me a lugia that I think is probably a fake (or lv100) I just put it on wi-fi asking 4 a deoxis or something. I have 8 celebii, 12 lugia(2 10aniv), 10 deoxis and 11 mew about half of them are from me offering somthing I cloned, somthing that I think is fake or somthing thats lv100 coz u cant ev train lv100's
 
When it comes to the "Beating the Cloners" section, I should add that only stupid or inexperienced GTS cloners will ask for something like a Lv100 Abra or Lv9 and under Mew.

What a smart cloner will/should do--and what I always do--is first search the GTS for a Pokemon that can't or won't be offered until s/he finds that such a Pokemon is not in the GTS, then gets quickly to work on their cloning. Beating this is incredibly difficult as it requires one to not only put up what the cloner is looking for (which usually needs to be hacked) but also seek what is trying to be cloned. Good luck doing that in the <2 minutes it takes to clone something through the GTS. (And that's assuming the easy cloning method, not the hard one, though I have been getting really good at the hard method.)

Now, perhaps an efficient cloner would take note of the searches that have come up empty and repeatedly seek those Pokemon for future clones. It's possible for someone to track this trend and pick off a clone for themselves. However, a smart cloner should only do this for Pokemon with many clones (I would say more than 2 clones; not including the original.), and would only lose a few minutes due to not getting a clone--but not losing one, however--and possibly having to make a new search.

The moral of this post? Take that "Beating the Cloners" section with a grain of salt as a reliable method of getting good stuff, since cloners can take a little extra time to protect themselves from losing their prized Pokemon. It's still relatively easy to screw over an idiot, however.
 
COTH: huge numbers of ppl ask for lv 9 or under mew if i could hack one I would have about 12 shiny leginds just from them. also is it realy fair to try to "beat the cloners"?
 
If that's the case, then "huge numbers of ppl" are either stupid or ignorant. Some circles might consider beating those cloners "giving them what they deserve"--not me, though.

Is that really fair, however? Let your morals decide. But if you don't have any...
 
yes they may be "stupid or ignorent" but if they have a shiny palkia/digila/lugia does it matter?

as far as the is it moral queston i think like this what do they lose: a few minets of time cloneing a extra time. what do i gain: a very rare (posably shiny) pokemon. trading lv9< mews also frees up the GTS for ppl who dont have lv9< mews, I onece saw that all 7 lugias that i could see where asking for lv9< mews stoping me from seeing the ppl's lugias who actuly wanted to trade.
 
...Old guide? Anyways...I actually wrote most of this before I saw the date, but:

Most of this guide is certainly well-written, but I do have a problem with the nature of the guide - there's a good chance that most of the "good" pokemon you're getting off the GTS are hacks. Of course there are the really obvious hacks like a 31/31/31/31/31/31 Shiny Dialga or an event in a Master Ball, but decently experienced hackers can very easily make a pokemon that looks every bit as legit as a real one, and it looks like you're just accepting anything the GTS spits out if you can't tell it's a hack at first sight. While this isn't an easily-solved problem (hack-checking is difficult to find, completely reliable hack-checking even more so), it's a problem that's better addressed instead of just ignored. Linking to a site that has a list of events and the levels they come at along with ID's would be a good idea (IIRC, serebii has one), as well as just giving people a better idea of the risks.


as far as the is it moral queston i think like this what do they lose: a few minets of time cloneing a extra time. what do i gain: a very rare (posably shiny) pokemon.

Completely wrong (I'm assuming we're talking about trading lv9 and under mews). What if it was their first time cloning that pokemon or they just happened to be down to their last one? (or, even worse, if they were cloning for someone else?) I'd be extremely pissed if some asshole managed to steal my hard-earned 31/31/17/x/24/31 Treecko by hacking. The fact remains that you're also hacking maliciously - hacking with the intent of screwing up someone else's game. The real-life equivalent of that would probably get you thrown in jail.
 
Fishin - do you mean that you had largely the same ideas before Oct. 19, or after?

If you fail to clone, you still have a copy in your party. If you do it right, you should always have a copy with you, and the only thing the hacker is stealing is the clone itself. Anyway, as one GF poster put it, they're asking for L9 and under Mews, and that's what they're giving them. Maybe they really do want that kind of Mew, but we can't tell. It's also the Global Trading Station, not teh Global Cloning station.

I guess I do have faith in the GTS, and the good faith that these are nonhacked, but it's true, I guess there are hackers, and the ones that I got that look reasonable might have just as well been hacked.
 
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as far as the is it moral queston i think like this what do they lose: a few minets of time cloneing a extra time. what do i gain: a very rare (posably shiny) pokemon.
Completely wrong (I'm assuming we're talking about trading lv9 and under mews). What if it was their first time cloning that pokemon or they just happened to be down to their last one? (or, even worse, if they were cloning for someone else?) I'd be extremely pissed if some asshole managed to steal my hard-earned 31/31/17/x/24/31 Treecko by hacking. The fact remains that you're also hacking maliciously - hacking with the intent of screwing up someone else's game. The real-life equivalent of that would probably get you thrown in jail.
I agree that "beating the hackers" is moraly gray thats why I brought the issue up in the frst place, but some of your arguements are invalid for egample
What if it was their first time cloning that pokemon or they just happened to be down to their last one? (or, even worse, if they were cloning for someone else?)
well they lose the pokemon they put on the GTS but if they cloned corectly they should still have a copy in there box.

I'd be extremely pissed if some asshole managed to steal my hard-earned 31/31/17/x/24/31 Treecko by hacking.
ok i kinda see your point here, but why would i trade (even a hack) for a treecko I know nothing about(and even if I did if it was from the GTS I would still think it was a hack)? its a waste of time the only times it would be worthwile would be shinys, or pokemon that look like events
also almost all competive breaders use AR cloneing insted of GTS cloneing
The fact remains that you're also hacking maliciously - hacking with the intent of screwing up someone else's game. The real-life equivalent of that would probably get you thrown in jail.
it would NOT screw up your game to be traded a lv9< mew, and whats with the thret of sending me to jail?

anyway all this discution is cindea academic since I think the gts regects lv9< mews, and I have no idea how to hack one anyway

edit: beaten to this point
If you fail to clone, you still have a copy in your party. If you do it right, you should always have a copy with you, and the only thing the hacker is stealing is the clone itself.
also
It's also the Global Trading Station, not teh Global Cloning station.
i was under the impresion that it was Global Trading Systum
edit 2: nice treecko fishin
 
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