Welcome to my RMT. I have been a long time lurker on Smogon, and I especially have been playing Pokemon for a long time. This team I have made would probably fall in the “Offensive” category, though I would say my team is bulky, too. Every Pokemon on my team is immune to Toxic Spikes, which is help against stall teams, and I have two resists to every type, which helps when switching to a counter. My team’s overall goal is for a Latias sweep, which is done by slowly eliminating her counters. Remember that this is a WIFI team, so there are no Rotom forms here I have to worry about (thankfully!) Lets start!
(Sorry but I fail at pictures)
*METAGROSS@Lum Berry
* 242 Hp, 252 Atk, 12 Spd
*Adamant, Clear Body
*STEALTH ROCK
*Bullet Punch
*METEOR MASH
*Earthquake
Metagross starts me out almost every battle at an advantage. As Heatran leads seem to decline and Roserade and Smeargle leads rise, Lum Berry is my choice, allowing me to take the sleep and proceed to kill. Metagross, although my lead, is usually seen later in the game as an additional check to Latias and can also be a check to something like a Suicune with a Calm Mind.
Meteor Mash is my all-powerful STAB attack, and usually the move I spam a lot.
Bullet Punch is for priority that allows me to beat suicide leads.
Explosion is for when Metagross has done his job and then proceeds to take my opponent down with it.
Earthquake may make you say (use Stealth Rock, noob!) but I already have Stealth Rock on a different Pokemon. This allows me to beat other Metagross leads and lets me damage other steel types that don’t fly above the ground.
Here’s Metagross against the most common leads I see:
1. Azelf : Easy. I Meteor Mash as they Stealth Rock than Bullet Punch to hopefully get a quick 5-0.
2. Metagross : Once I get the EV spread to out speed lead Metagross, I Earthquake for the 2-hit-KO while all they do is set up Stealth Rock.
3. Jirachi : As most lead Jirachi are scarfed, I switch to Flygon so he gets my Scarf back at him. If I know that Jirachi isn’t scarfed, though, I’ll switch to Heatran to wall it.
4. Aerodactyl : Two quick Bullet Punches kill it as they usually set up a useless taunt. An easy win.
5. Swampert : Unfortunately, one lead I lose to. I switch to Gyarados as they Stealth Rock and I taunt it, allowing me to set up.
6. Infernape : Another lead I lose too. I usually switch to Gyarados to kill it as I don’t want to reveal Latias too early in the match.
7. Ninjask : Meteor Mash, than Bullet Punch until it’s dead. Usually an easy win. ?
8. Roserade : I Earthquake as they Sleep Powder me. (My Lum Berry Saves Me). Than I Bullet Punch for an easy kill.
9. Smeargle : Pretty much exactly the same as Roserade. (Meaning I win!)
10. Hippowdon : I switch to Gyarados who pretty much walls this, than proceed to set up.
As you can see, Metagross helps me with most of the leads.
DO TO MANY PEOPLE SUGGESTING THIS, I HAVE REPLACED METEOR MASH ON METAGROSS TO STEALTH ROCK.
I HAVE NOW REPLACED EXPLOSION FOR METEOR MASH
PROBLEMS: Not much, however I would like an EV spread that lets me keep most of my bulk yet able to out speed other Metagross. THANKS TO GARY, I FIXED THIS PROBLEM
*HEATRAN@Life Orb
*6 Hp, 252 SpAtk, 252 Spd
*Naïve/Timid, Flash Fire
*Fire Blast
*Earth Power
*Hidden Power Grass
*Explosion
Heatran is such an excellent Pokemon it’s hard to describe him. He is simultaneously checking many things, resisting many things, and hitting ass-kicking hard. He is my first counter to Scizor, and lures Tyranitar to weaken him, and lures Blissey to eliminate her.
Fire Blast is my STAB move that 2-hit-kos many Pokemon that resist it with Stealth Rock like Gyarados.
Earth Power allows me not to be left helpless against other Heatran while allowing me to hit other types super-effectively
Stealth Rock allows me set up residual damage that turns many 2-hit-KOs to 1-hit-KOs ect.
Explosion is the move I’m currently using to blow up on Blisseys. I may switch to HP Grass to kill Swamperts and not lower my SpDef with Naïve.
I HAVE REPLACED STEALTH ROCK ON HEATRAN FOR HP GRASS
PROBLEMS: Besides the Explosion/HP Grass dilemma, I may switch Life Orb to Shuca Berry to survive Earthquakes and proceed to kill. Not sure.
*GYARADOS@Leftovers
*156 Hp, 108 Atk, 100 Def, 144 Spd
*Adamant, Intimidate
*Waterfall
*Dragon Dance
*Stone Edge
*Taunt
Gyarados serves as a threat while countering and checking many things. I chose this type of Gyarados to prevent Pokemon from setting up, than allowing me to set up. For example, I can come in on a Skarmory and Taunt it from using Spikes. Than I can set up a Dragon Dance or two.
Waterfall is my obvious stab move
Dragon Dance allows me to set up against useless Taunted users like Skarmory or against choiced resist moves.
Stone Edge prevents me from being set up bait against Salamence and other Gyarados. It also has nice coverage with Waterfall.
Taunt allows me to cripple set up Pokemon like Forretress and Skarmory.
PROBLEMS: Because Gyarados checks so many important Pokemon like Lucario and Scizor, I find that Stealth Rock really hampers his performance. That is why I considered replacing Gyarados with a Roost, Taunt, Earthquake, U-Turn Gliscor, as they both do similar jobs but Gliscor has instant healing, and no Stealth rock weakness. Thoughts?
*SCIZOR@Choice Band
*248 Hp, 252 Atk, 6 Spd
*Adamant, Technician
*Bullet Punch
*U-Turn
*Superpower/Brick Break
*Quick Attack/Pursuit
Scizor is a Pokemon that has become a new threat because of one additional attack added to his move pool. Although this is the most standard set of Scizor and everybody has a counter to him, he still makes an excellent scout and a great check to many Pokemon. The EVs are standard. 6 Spd Evs allow me to outspeed Vaporeon and speedtie against opposing Scizor
Bullet Punch allows me to put pressure against the opponent and checks many Pokemon with frail Defense.
U-Turn allows me to do a lot of damage while scouting the opponent’s team and allowing me to switch to the right counter
Superpower allows me to hit incoming Steel types like Heatran on the switch in. I may consider changing this to Brick Break so I don’t lower my stats and allowing me to break screens.
Quick Attack is a little different than the standard. While Pursuit allows me to damage switching Pokemon, I’d rather use U-Turn to scout. Quick Attack allows me to kill weakened Gyarados and other Pokemon that resist Bullet Punch.
PROBLEMS: Sometimes being locked in Quick Attack/Superpower/Bullet Punch makes me set-up fodder against other Pokemon. I may consider changing Choice Band to Life Orb.
*FLYGON@Choice Scarf
*6 Hp, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
*Adamant, Levitate
*Outrage
*Earthquake
*U-Turn
*Stone Edge
Flygon serves as a check to many Pokemon as well as being an offensive threat. I can scout against Pokemon with U-Turn and eventually deliver the final blow once the team is considerably weakened. Flygon’s resists and scouting abilities made me choose it over other scarfed Pokemon like Starmie or Latias.
Outrage is my STAB move that I use once I know my opponent’s team and the members are all weakened.
Earthquake is my other STAB move that gives me nearly perfect coverage along with Outrage.
U-Turn allows me to scout the opponent’s team and is the move I use in the beginning of the match.
Stone Edge allows me to revenge Gyarados with a Dragon Dance and lets me counter some Zapdos.
PROBLEMS: If I lock myself into a move like Stone Edge early in the game, the results can get ugly. Also this Pokemon is a little lacking in the offensive side.
*LATIAS@Life Orb
*108 Hp, 148 SpAtk, 252 Spd
*Timid, Levitate
*Calm Mind
*Dragon Pulse
*Recover
*Thunderbolt
Latias is the star of the show. After a couple of Calm Minds, this beast is nearly untouchable. The rest of my team tries to eliminate her counters like Tyranitar and Scizor so she can proceed to sweep. The EVs allow me to pose a threat while being extremely bulky at the same time.
Calm Mind is to boost my stats to sky-high levels and allows me to laugh as Bulky Water’s Ice Beam does nothing
Dragon Pulse is a solid STAB move that doesn’t lower my stats like Draco Meteor would do.
Recover allows me to recover Life Orb Damage and allows me to Calm Mind, heal, Calm Mind, heal, ect.
Thunderbolt gives me nearly perfect coverage with Dragon Pulse. It was chosen over Surf so I can do more damage to Gyarados and Empoleon.
PROBLEMS: I may consider changing Thunderbolt to Refresh so I can set up on Blisseys, and other Pokemon like that.
Defensive Threats:
Blissey – It can’t really wall anybody on the team except for Latias.
Bronzong – Scizor can kill it with repeated U-Turns. Heatran makes an excellent counter, and Gyarados laughs at this if it doesn’t have Explosion
Celebi – Flygon is usually my first choice as I’m immune to the Thunder Wave it usually spams first. Than I U-Turn to either Scizor or Heatran
Cresselia - Scizor's U-Turn does a shitload and I can switch in Heatran to finish it off. Doesn’t do that much damage to pose a threat
Forretress – Gyarados can come in to Taunt it from setting up. Heatran has fun with this guy, too
Gliscor – Gyarados is my main check against this guy. Latias does okay against this
Gyarados – Defensive Gyarados is usually beaten by Latias as it usually only has Waterfall. Metagross can blow up in emergencies.
Hippowdon – Gyarados walls most Hippowdon. Latias can set up on Roar-less versions.
Jirachi - Heatran is an excellent Jirachi counter so never really a threat as long as Heatran is alive. If things get tense, Flygon can come in and hammer it.
Skarmory – My Gyarados is one of the few Gyarados that can beat Skarmory. Heatran also laughs at this thing.
Snorlax – Tyranitar can taunt it from setting up more than one curse. Scizor can Superpower it and Metagross blows up in emergencies
Suicune –Latias is pretty much my only offensive Suicune counter. CroCune can be beaten by Gyarados as well
Swampert – Gyarados is pretty much a perfect counter, and Scizor can hammer away at this as well
Tyranitar – Scizor beats pretty much all Tyranitar except Babiri Berry ones, which are beaten by Flygon
Vaporeon – Latias is a good counter. Scizor can chip away its health as well
Zapdos –Latias and Flygon usually can beat Zapdos. They also get worn down by Stealth Rock and repeated U-Turns
Offensive Threats:
Azelf – Metagross beats this, Scizor beats this, Flygon beats this, Heatran walls this
Breloom –Isn’t actually that much of a threat as I’m pretty sure everybody out speeds him except for Metagross, who has a Lum Berry
Gengar –Scizor can beat this thing, and Flygon revenge kills.
Gyarados – Okay Latias can take a hit then kill it, Gyarados does fine against ones without Stone Edge, and Flygon can kill offensive versions with Stone Edge.
Heatran – Latias and Gyarados beat it. Flygon out speeds all versions
Infernape – Gyarados is good, Latias is good too
Jolteon – Flygon, Latias
Latias – Metagross and Scizor beat it. My Latias out speeds HP Fire versions
Kingdra –Flygon outspeeds even after a dance, and Scizor will prevent it from sweeping for long
Lucario –Gyarados is my main check. Scizor can do lots of damage too after Close Combats
Machamp – Again, I rely on Gyarados for this ?
Magnezone –Flygon is awesome, so is Heatran
Mamoswine - Bullet Punch Scizor, or Gyarados. Lead ones are beaten by my Metagross
Metagross – Leads are hopefully beaten by my Metagross or Heatran. Agiligross could be trouble, but I’ve never seen one.
Salamence -CB Bullet Punch from Scizor is a great way to just kill it but yeah, Bulky DD can be revenged by Flygon
Scizor – Heatran and Gyarados will beat all Scizor
Starmie – Scizor is good, Latias is good
Tyranitar –Flygon and Scizor beat all Tyranitars
Zapdos – Latias, Flygon
So this is my team I hope you can make this better!
READ!!! IF ANYBODY KNOWS HOW TO PUT PICTURES IN THIS ON A MAC I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW!!!
(Sorry but I fail at pictures)
*METAGROSS@Lum Berry
* 242 Hp, 252 Atk, 12 Spd
*Adamant, Clear Body
*STEALTH ROCK
*Bullet Punch
*METEOR MASH
*Earthquake
Metagross starts me out almost every battle at an advantage. As Heatran leads seem to decline and Roserade and Smeargle leads rise, Lum Berry is my choice, allowing me to take the sleep and proceed to kill. Metagross, although my lead, is usually seen later in the game as an additional check to Latias and can also be a check to something like a Suicune with a Calm Mind.
Meteor Mash is my all-powerful STAB attack, and usually the move I spam a lot.
Bullet Punch is for priority that allows me to beat suicide leads.
Explosion is for when Metagross has done his job and then proceeds to take my opponent down with it.
Earthquake may make you say (use Stealth Rock, noob!) but I already have Stealth Rock on a different Pokemon. This allows me to beat other Metagross leads and lets me damage other steel types that don’t fly above the ground.
Here’s Metagross against the most common leads I see:
1. Azelf : Easy. I Meteor Mash as they Stealth Rock than Bullet Punch to hopefully get a quick 5-0.
2. Metagross : Once I get the EV spread to out speed lead Metagross, I Earthquake for the 2-hit-KO while all they do is set up Stealth Rock.
3. Jirachi : As most lead Jirachi are scarfed, I switch to Flygon so he gets my Scarf back at him. If I know that Jirachi isn’t scarfed, though, I’ll switch to Heatran to wall it.
4. Aerodactyl : Two quick Bullet Punches kill it as they usually set up a useless taunt. An easy win.
5. Swampert : Unfortunately, one lead I lose to. I switch to Gyarados as they Stealth Rock and I taunt it, allowing me to set up.
6. Infernape : Another lead I lose too. I usually switch to Gyarados to kill it as I don’t want to reveal Latias too early in the match.
7. Ninjask : Meteor Mash, than Bullet Punch until it’s dead. Usually an easy win. ?
8. Roserade : I Earthquake as they Sleep Powder me. (My Lum Berry Saves Me). Than I Bullet Punch for an easy kill.
9. Smeargle : Pretty much exactly the same as Roserade. (Meaning I win!)
10. Hippowdon : I switch to Gyarados who pretty much walls this, than proceed to set up.
As you can see, Metagross helps me with most of the leads.
DO TO MANY PEOPLE SUGGESTING THIS, I HAVE REPLACED METEOR MASH ON METAGROSS TO STEALTH ROCK.
I HAVE NOW REPLACED EXPLOSION FOR METEOR MASH
PROBLEMS: Not much, however I would like an EV spread that lets me keep most of my bulk yet able to out speed other Metagross. THANKS TO GARY, I FIXED THIS PROBLEM
*HEATRAN@Life Orb
*6 Hp, 252 SpAtk, 252 Spd
*Naïve/Timid, Flash Fire
*Fire Blast
*Earth Power
*Hidden Power Grass
*Explosion
Heatran is such an excellent Pokemon it’s hard to describe him. He is simultaneously checking many things, resisting many things, and hitting ass-kicking hard. He is my first counter to Scizor, and lures Tyranitar to weaken him, and lures Blissey to eliminate her.
Fire Blast is my STAB move that 2-hit-kos many Pokemon that resist it with Stealth Rock like Gyarados.
Earth Power allows me not to be left helpless against other Heatran while allowing me to hit other types super-effectively
Stealth Rock allows me set up residual damage that turns many 2-hit-KOs to 1-hit-KOs ect.
Explosion is the move I’m currently using to blow up on Blisseys. I may switch to HP Grass to kill Swamperts and not lower my SpDef with Naïve.
I HAVE REPLACED STEALTH ROCK ON HEATRAN FOR HP GRASS
PROBLEMS: Besides the Explosion/HP Grass dilemma, I may switch Life Orb to Shuca Berry to survive Earthquakes and proceed to kill. Not sure.
*GYARADOS@Leftovers
*156 Hp, 108 Atk, 100 Def, 144 Spd
*Adamant, Intimidate
*Waterfall
*Dragon Dance
*Stone Edge
*Taunt
Gyarados serves as a threat while countering and checking many things. I chose this type of Gyarados to prevent Pokemon from setting up, than allowing me to set up. For example, I can come in on a Skarmory and Taunt it from using Spikes. Than I can set up a Dragon Dance or two.
Waterfall is my obvious stab move
Dragon Dance allows me to set up against useless Taunted users like Skarmory or against choiced resist moves.
Stone Edge prevents me from being set up bait against Salamence and other Gyarados. It also has nice coverage with Waterfall.
Taunt allows me to cripple set up Pokemon like Forretress and Skarmory.
PROBLEMS: Because Gyarados checks so many important Pokemon like Lucario and Scizor, I find that Stealth Rock really hampers his performance. That is why I considered replacing Gyarados with a Roost, Taunt, Earthquake, U-Turn Gliscor, as they both do similar jobs but Gliscor has instant healing, and no Stealth rock weakness. Thoughts?
*SCIZOR@Choice Band
*248 Hp, 252 Atk, 6 Spd
*Adamant, Technician
*Bullet Punch
*U-Turn
*Superpower/Brick Break
*Quick Attack/Pursuit
Scizor is a Pokemon that has become a new threat because of one additional attack added to his move pool. Although this is the most standard set of Scizor and everybody has a counter to him, he still makes an excellent scout and a great check to many Pokemon. The EVs are standard. 6 Spd Evs allow me to outspeed Vaporeon and speedtie against opposing Scizor
Bullet Punch allows me to put pressure against the opponent and checks many Pokemon with frail Defense.
U-Turn allows me to do a lot of damage while scouting the opponent’s team and allowing me to switch to the right counter
Superpower allows me to hit incoming Steel types like Heatran on the switch in. I may consider changing this to Brick Break so I don’t lower my stats and allowing me to break screens.
Quick Attack is a little different than the standard. While Pursuit allows me to damage switching Pokemon, I’d rather use U-Turn to scout. Quick Attack allows me to kill weakened Gyarados and other Pokemon that resist Bullet Punch.
PROBLEMS: Sometimes being locked in Quick Attack/Superpower/Bullet Punch makes me set-up fodder against other Pokemon. I may consider changing Choice Band to Life Orb.
*FLYGON@Choice Scarf
*6 Hp, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
*Adamant, Levitate
*Outrage
*Earthquake
*U-Turn
*Stone Edge
Flygon serves as a check to many Pokemon as well as being an offensive threat. I can scout against Pokemon with U-Turn and eventually deliver the final blow once the team is considerably weakened. Flygon’s resists and scouting abilities made me choose it over other scarfed Pokemon like Starmie or Latias.
Outrage is my STAB move that I use once I know my opponent’s team and the members are all weakened.
Earthquake is my other STAB move that gives me nearly perfect coverage along with Outrage.
U-Turn allows me to scout the opponent’s team and is the move I use in the beginning of the match.
Stone Edge allows me to revenge Gyarados with a Dragon Dance and lets me counter some Zapdos.
PROBLEMS: If I lock myself into a move like Stone Edge early in the game, the results can get ugly. Also this Pokemon is a little lacking in the offensive side.
*LATIAS@Life Orb
*108 Hp, 148 SpAtk, 252 Spd
*Timid, Levitate
*Calm Mind
*Dragon Pulse
*Recover
*Thunderbolt
Latias is the star of the show. After a couple of Calm Minds, this beast is nearly untouchable. The rest of my team tries to eliminate her counters like Tyranitar and Scizor so she can proceed to sweep. The EVs allow me to pose a threat while being extremely bulky at the same time.
Calm Mind is to boost my stats to sky-high levels and allows me to laugh as Bulky Water’s Ice Beam does nothing
Dragon Pulse is a solid STAB move that doesn’t lower my stats like Draco Meteor would do.
Recover allows me to recover Life Orb Damage and allows me to Calm Mind, heal, Calm Mind, heal, ect.
Thunderbolt gives me nearly perfect coverage with Dragon Pulse. It was chosen over Surf so I can do more damage to Gyarados and Empoleon.
PROBLEMS: I may consider changing Thunderbolt to Refresh so I can set up on Blisseys, and other Pokemon like that.
Defensive Threats:
Blissey – It can’t really wall anybody on the team except for Latias.
Bronzong – Scizor can kill it with repeated U-Turns. Heatran makes an excellent counter, and Gyarados laughs at this if it doesn’t have Explosion
Celebi – Flygon is usually my first choice as I’m immune to the Thunder Wave it usually spams first. Than I U-Turn to either Scizor or Heatran
Cresselia - Scizor's U-Turn does a shitload and I can switch in Heatran to finish it off. Doesn’t do that much damage to pose a threat
Forretress – Gyarados can come in to Taunt it from setting up. Heatran has fun with this guy, too
Gliscor – Gyarados is my main check against this guy. Latias does okay against this
Gyarados – Defensive Gyarados is usually beaten by Latias as it usually only has Waterfall. Metagross can blow up in emergencies.
Hippowdon – Gyarados walls most Hippowdon. Latias can set up on Roar-less versions.
Jirachi - Heatran is an excellent Jirachi counter so never really a threat as long as Heatran is alive. If things get tense, Flygon can come in and hammer it.
Skarmory – My Gyarados is one of the few Gyarados that can beat Skarmory. Heatran also laughs at this thing.
Snorlax – Tyranitar can taunt it from setting up more than one curse. Scizor can Superpower it and Metagross blows up in emergencies
Suicune –Latias is pretty much my only offensive Suicune counter. CroCune can be beaten by Gyarados as well
Swampert – Gyarados is pretty much a perfect counter, and Scizor can hammer away at this as well
Tyranitar – Scizor beats pretty much all Tyranitar except Babiri Berry ones, which are beaten by Flygon
Vaporeon – Latias is a good counter. Scizor can chip away its health as well
Zapdos –Latias and Flygon usually can beat Zapdos. They also get worn down by Stealth Rock and repeated U-Turns
Offensive Threats:
Azelf – Metagross beats this, Scizor beats this, Flygon beats this, Heatran walls this
Breloom –Isn’t actually that much of a threat as I’m pretty sure everybody out speeds him except for Metagross, who has a Lum Berry
Gengar –Scizor can beat this thing, and Flygon revenge kills.
Gyarados – Okay Latias can take a hit then kill it, Gyarados does fine against ones without Stone Edge, and Flygon can kill offensive versions with Stone Edge.
Heatran – Latias and Gyarados beat it. Flygon out speeds all versions
Infernape – Gyarados is good, Latias is good too
Jolteon – Flygon, Latias
Latias – Metagross and Scizor beat it. My Latias out speeds HP Fire versions
Kingdra –Flygon outspeeds even after a dance, and Scizor will prevent it from sweeping for long
Lucario –Gyarados is my main check. Scizor can do lots of damage too after Close Combats
Machamp – Again, I rely on Gyarados for this ?
Magnezone –Flygon is awesome, so is Heatran
Mamoswine - Bullet Punch Scizor, or Gyarados. Lead ones are beaten by my Metagross
Metagross – Leads are hopefully beaten by my Metagross or Heatran. Agiligross could be trouble, but I’ve never seen one.
Salamence -CB Bullet Punch from Scizor is a great way to just kill it but yeah, Bulky DD can be revenged by Flygon
Scizor – Heatran and Gyarados will beat all Scizor
Starmie – Scizor is good, Latias is good
Tyranitar –Flygon and Scizor beat all Tyranitars
Zapdos – Latias, Flygon
So this is my team I hope you can make this better!
READ!!! IF ANYBODY KNOWS HOW TO PUT PICTURES IN THIS ON A MAC I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW!!!
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