NOC a nice basic game of actual mafia - game over - won by the Mafia

[shubaka17]

Honestly guys, from what i've seen some people seem to think Empoof + Haru, no are scum. I have no idea on how to read them, mind telling me the why's etc?

I will explain the reasoning about the 4 I think could be a scum team.
Shubaka - Usually will try and convince town that he is town himself from what I've experienced. This game early on felt like he tried to put me off and ignore me. From my experiences on Showdown with him, he is generally a decent player that sometimes expresses his opinions unless he is tired, but since we have time I don't think he should be this quiet.

Tropius - My previous experience with Dullagamur is that she tends to state the obvious but this game she only had a few posts in the beginning that really had no value.

Twin - This guy is a good player aka Metagame Mafia Winner, I called him out early because of his idleness. I felt that he should have at least posted something because he is one of those guys I think can really pressure and give out his thoughts.

Aubisio - From what I remember early on, he didn't talk much and just had activity posts. I felt maybe he was trying to be under the radar but at the same time not seem scum.

they* seriously I'm starting to do this on every single post of mine
anyways yes that is what I will do, I'll try and convince people that I'm town when I'm not because that makes me try all the more hard. honestly I was going to try and do early this game was slide along without doing anything of worth until the end like in Dead, but yet what I've said has still brought me to at least a bit of attention.

Also, I'm not sure if anybody other than King sees what I've done as Scummy per se, the majority of people have been saying it's Null or Could Go Either Way. Actually, looking back a little bit harder nobody seems to be bringing me up except for King. There was some discussion over the Golden Meme I found and how I'm not taking this game seriously, but general consensus is that I need to take the game More Seriously and Stop Goofing Around. Which I am, but then what's a game of mafia if we don't have fun. also A+ on contradicting yourself. haven't been on PS in months, still tries to read me based off of that. You weren't even there for my promo to voice let alone driver

 

[King_]

they* seriously I'm starting to do this on every single post of mine
anyways yes that is what I will do, I'll try and convince people that I'm town when I'm not because that makes me try all the more hard. honestly I was going to try and do early this game was slide along without doing anything of worth until the end like in Dead, but yet what I've said has still brought me to at least a bit of attention.

Also, I'm not sure if anybody other than King sees what I've done as Scummy per se, the majority of people have been saying it's Null or Could Go Either Way. Actually, looking back a little bit harder nobody seems to be bringing me up except for King. There was some discussion over the Golden Meme I found and how I'm not taking this game seriously, but general consensus is that I need to take the game More Seriously and Stop Goofing Around. Which I am, but then what's a game of mafia if we don't have fun. also A+ on contradicting yourself. haven't been on PS in months, still tries to read me based off of that. You weren't even there for my promo to voice let alone driver

Tfw I said "From my experience"

 

[sandshrewz]

sandshrewz has done absolutely nothing to alleviate suspicion. Even when they finally started posting, they seemed to be avoiding the situation at hand and even suggested they stopped watching the thread altogether. Sure, they have that spreadsheet, which seems impressive. Until you realize that it all contains basic information that had been blatantly stated throughout D1, with absolutely no original input. The bolded text could be interpreted as their feelings, but it looks more like the general opinions of the people who posted.

What do to even alleviate suspicion anyway. People who are suspicious will just be suspicious for whatever reason they want. There's no stopping from that. And yea that's the point of the post, just pointing out the exact fact that I can't simply read just based on all these posts alone and people are asking for reads here and there?? It was just a 9.9 answer just to placate people since they can't be convinced that I really can't read anything from all these. If they want to think otherwise w/e I'm not going to waste my time convincing them that I can't read.

I think you should finish reading the game and make an updated post because this one doesn't really help you.


Spreadsheet =/= Town

I never wanted anyone to imply that what I did was towny. They can think what they want. It's just how I try to make sense of the things that's been happening. And my results are just that, inconclusive. There.

I stated that I stopped compiling from page 6-7, not that I didn't read the whole thread.

All I feel that all this accusations thrown around are just to pressure people into replying and waiting for screw up or whatever. But go ahead there's no where I am going to contradict myself or whatever.

My scum reads right now are sandshrewz and Jalmont. I think sandshrewz has been intentionally lurking all game to avoid suspicion + being essentially confronted by DLE. TBH the post they made about everyone seems to just be the popular opinion of what users like DLE and King_ have been saying about the game. It's kinda strange that tropiusisbae seems to have determined that sandshrewz is village just based off of that post (which I think has been sandshrewz's only post that has contributed to the game so far), but then again DLE did the same thing with OM Room after OM Room gave their response to being voted, so I'll look past that. Still looks like they were trying to just appeal to the popular opinion about everyone with that post, however. Also I still think that "I thought it was night time" post was just an excuse as to why he hadn't been posting.

I don't like Jalmont's playstyle. If he is village, then I still don't like it. He has essentially been posting one-liners all game, has not contributed anything of substance to the game, and his first post was "don't vote me". Extremely suspicious gameplay on his part. Unless he is trying to intentionally act scum to avoid being targeted by maf, but I find that unlikely considering the fact that this is a NOC, so the only information any of us can receive is based off of the actions everyone does in this game.

Still on the fence about SomewhatOddish. DLE's post about her gameplay tying in with her personality seems to have reduced my suspicion about her, but to be honest I'm still not sure.

As for the other mafia, I would assume they have been actively posting so far. It would make no sense for the entire mafia team to idle throughout this day. I agree on the Haruno + Empoof suspicion.

Never wanted anyone to think im town just cos of one post. But lol that's some imagination and absurd jump to conclude that I've been intentionally lurking and then someone told me to post what I posted. REALLY?

If I'm actually mafia I wouldn't even NEED to look at the thread that much and be pointed out like HEY I SEE U READING THREAD U MUST BE LURKING. Surely my other mafian teammates can tell me what's going on without me having to expose myself to all these.

I said it many times and I'll say it again. I didn't really post because I didn't want to throw a villager under the bus by accident, though I now understand that it's not that easy to do that with all that circle lynching or w/e spam poke going around anyways. Also nobody asked me anything earlier either so there was no need for me to respond ?

I've stated my thoughts on everyone atm and I'll just be entertaining whatever highlights I guess.

 

[Whydon]

If I'm actually mafia I wouldn't even NEED to look at the thread that much and be pointed out like HEY I SEE U READING THREAD U MUST BE LURKING. Surely my other mafian teammates can tell me what's going on without me having to expose myself to all these

It's strange that you say this, considering the fact that yesterday you said you would even unwatch this thread if people found it strange that you were lurking.

 

[sandshrewz]

It's strange that you say this, considering the fact that yesterday you said you would even unwatch this thread if people found it strange that you were lurking.

sarcasm ?

 

[Whydon]

Lol... I view this thread because I added it to my watch list and it kept giving me alerts. I just open to clear the notification and check if anyone pinged me or anything.
Lol I did see Haronu accusations but I mostly skimmed it off as I thought it was mainly to do with his previous noc game.
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Guess I better unwatch the thread so that I don't look scum then.

So now you're saying that if you were mafia you would have no need to read what we post here, as your teammates would fill you in.

Well, yesterday you said that you were only checking this thread to clear the notification and to see if you were pinged. So basically, are we to assume that you weren't posting because your mafia team was filling you in?

The only time you posted was when you got called out for lurking. Then you made that sheet post, which to me (and others) just seems like you were just repeating information that had already been stated. I would not be shocked if a teammate had directed you to make that post.

 

[Whydon]

sarcasm ?

Maybe that was sarcasm. But you also said you were only checking the thread to clear the notification. That part didn't look like sarcasm to me.

 

[sandshrewz]

So now you're saying that if you were mafia you would have no need to read what we post here, as your teammates would fill you in.

Well, yesterday you said that you were only checking this thread to clear the notification and to see if you were pinged. So basically, are we to assume that you weren't posting because your mafia team was filling you in?

The only time you posted was when you got called out for lurking. Then you made that sheet post, which to me (and others) just seems like you were just repeating information that had already been stated. I would not be shocked if a teammate had directed you to make that post.

If I were mafia why would I need to check by myself whether or not I got pinged ? There's no contradiction here.

 

[sandshrewz]

Maybe that was sarcasm. But you also said you were only checking the thread to clear the notification. That part didn't look like sarcasm to me.

The part about unwatching.. yes.. clear the thread and check for mentions which for the most part didn't happen... Give me something that actually contradicts.

 

[Haruno]

Hi friends! Can someone come to a consensus on who we're lynching? Ty. Am in church learning about the m2k doing 9/11 will read the rest later. A five way with one votes apiece won't get us anywhere except to figure out what we think of each other which IMO isn't that important atm compared to actual getting scum to prevent the events of 911 again

 

[Whydon]

If I were mafia why would I need to check by myself whether or not I got pinged ? There's no contradiction here.

There is a contradiction. You said that if you were mafia you would have no need to read what was being said here because your teammates would fill you in. You admitted to only checking the thread to clear the notification, which is basically the same thing as not reading what people are saying.

 

[Da Letter El]

Hi friends! Can someone come to a consensus on who we're lynching? Ty. Am in church learning about the m2k doing 9/11 will read the rest later. A five way with one votes apiece won't get us anywhere except to figure out what we think of each other which IMO isn't that important atm

rofl this is actually a thing

 

[Whydon]

If I were mafia why would I need to check by myself whether or not I got pinged ? There's no contradiction here.

A mafia would want to check if they were pinged to see if they were getting called out. You got pinged for being a lurker, and then immediately you started supporting your case as to why you were lurking. Then you made that sheet to try and take suspicion off of you, even though you basically just gave a summary of the thread. In addition to that it is not uncommon for other mafia to tell a mafia what to do if they are in trouble.

 

[Haruno]

rofl this is actually a thing

Relevant video

 

[sandshrewz]

There is a contradiction. You said that if you were mafia you would have no need to read what was being said here because your teammates would fill you in. You admitted to only checking the thread to clear the notification, which is basically the same thing as not reading what people are saying.

Lol... I view this thread because I added it to my watch list and it kept giving me alerts. I just open to clear the notification and check if anyone pinged me or anything. Haven't properly fully read every post so whatever opinion I have is just nonsense atm. If you really want anything from me all I can say is DLE/King_ and more seem really invested in this game and I don't have a good read on anything without having actually spending time compiling posts into a sheet or something for now.

Lol I did see Haronu accusations but I mostly skimmed it off as I thought it was mainly to do with his previous noc game.

Whatever you want from me now I have no valid or appropriate reasons. Check back like half a day later and I should be up to date.

Though all my post did was probably just becoming a basis for accusing me as Mafia lmao e_e

Guess I better unwatch the thread so that I don't look scum then.

I said both. And I did mentioned I didn't read everything yet. Not as if I didn't read at all ... try harder.

 

[sandshrewz]

A mafia would want to check if they were pinged to see if they were getting called out. You got pinged for being a lurker, and then immediately you started supporting your case as to why you were lurking. Then you made that sheet to try and take suspicion off of you, even though you basically just gave a summary of the thread. In addition to that it is not uncommon for other mafia to tell a mafia what to do if they are in trouble.

GOSH. If I'm mafia i don't need to check for pings myself okay. I've said it a thousand times my own sheet isn't to clear myself or whatever and ALREADY STATED that IT IS A SUMMARY OR SOMETHING. GOSH >:|

you are the one contradicting yourself and did you even read my other posts 9.9 ugh I don't even want to reply to you anymore

 

[Samoyed]

Sandshrew + Whydon both seem pretty town to me, they both have good defenses.

 

[Whydon]

Where am I contradicting myself? You stated that you were only opening the thread to clear the notification...and even if you read a few posts, you contributed nothing of substance to the game and continued to lurk until you got called out. Then you made that post to try and cover your tracks.

In addition to that, apparently you thought it was night instead of day so that's what you weren't posting. Honestly that also sounded like you were trying to take any suspicion off of you for not posting prior to you getting called out.

I feel like a broken record. I'm not going to vote anyone unless there is a clear consensus on an agreeable lynch.

 

[sandshrewz]

/me pet Aubisio.

I used Defense Curl does that help?

Also sorry if I sound too aggressive or whatever here. Don't mean no harm >_> Hope you don't feel personally offended or anything :X

 

[Whydon]

Same here, just trying to play the game is all :P

 

[Samoyed]

also I'm going to go with Whydon and not vote until there is a lynch that seems promising, i hate mislynching people and being mislynched.

 

[sandshrewz]

Where am I contradicting myself? You stated that you were only opening the thread to clear the notification...and even if you read a few posts, you contributed nothing of substance to the game and continued to lurk until you got called out. Then you made that post to try and cover your tracks.

In addition to that, apparently you thought it was night instead of day so that's what you weren't posting. Honestly that also sounded like you were trying to take any suspicion off of you for not posting prior to you getting called out.

I feel like a broken record. I'm not going to vote anyone unless there is a clear consensus on an agreeable lynch.

"You said that if you were mafia you would have no need to read what was being said here because your teammates would fill you in. You admitted to only checking the thread to clear the notification, which is basically the same thing as not reading what people are saying." vs "A mafia would want to check if they were pinged to see if they were getting called out. You got pinged for being a lurker, and then immediately you started supporting your case as to why you were lurking."

So you were saying that I was saying if I was mafia, I don't need to read the thread. And then you said a mafia would want to check if they were pinged. If I were mafia I wouldn't need to check the thread or check the thread for pings. Someone could contact me that I got pinged, why should I have to read the thread at all.

"In addition to that, apparently you thought it was night instead of day so that's what you weren't posting. Honestly that also sounded like you were trying to take any suspicion off of you for not posting prior to you getting called out."

No I didn't say I thought it was night. I said that all the irl mafia I played started with night. Read more carefully lmao.

I feel like a broken record too so let's just call it a day (haha pun?) and stop at here.

 

[King_]

Yo Sandshrewz, you literally said you were going to unwatch thread, and that you only were viewing thread to get rid of the notifications. Then you said a lurker wouldn't have to read because Mafian would be filled in by other Mafian. I think Whydon is saying that you're saying you could be Mafia because you didn't read thread and was briefed via Mafia.

 

[sandshrewz]

also I'm going to go with Whydon and not vote until there is a lynch that seems promising, i hate mislynching people and being mislynched.

Curious, what's the general consensus as to no lynch vs mislynch? Personally I always feel no lynch is always better than a mislynch even if that means you get a lot of wrong info. This means the mafia has to do one more kill ? What's the standard? I mean if there's someone that 90% of the people want to go for I suppose that would be okay? If everyone suspects a person that hard then they'd probably have trouble believing what they said in the first place and probably not as useful for future cycles.

But idk. Any enlightenment would be appreciated

 

[sandshrewz]

Yo Sandshrewz, you literally said you were going to unwatch thread, and that you only were viewing thread to get rid of the notifications. Then you said a lurker wouldn't have to read because Mafian would be filled in by other Mafian. I think Whydon is saying that you're saying you could be Mafia because you didn't read thread and was briefed via Mafia.

I was joking about unwatch thread :d I said both to rid of the notif and to check for pings. And by what Whydon meant, if that were the case, I didn't even need to watch the thread in the first case and put myself at risk given how much I check smorgen.

Not sure if im making any sense ? ?_?