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A Pokemon Riddle
- Thread starter obi
- Start date
The hidden power doesn't have to be dark. Obi said so.
The riddle's been solved, guys. There are two solutions:
1. Obi's intended solution
The "something" move is Grass Knot.
In the first scenario, "Barkers" can be either Celebi or Shaymin.
In the second scenario, "Barkers" can only be Celebi.
2. The solution that I posted (with the damage calcs to prove it)
The "something" move is Low Kick.
In the first scenario, "Barkers" can be either Primeape or Lucario.
In the second scenario, "Barkers" can only be Primeape. (Note: It's because Lucario can't be OHKOed by a Mewtwo non-critical Hidden Power, not due to Rest's perceived behavior in the riddle.)
1. Obi's intended solution
The "something" move is Grass Knot.
In the first scenario, "Barkers" can be either Celebi or Shaymin.
In the second scenario, "Barkers" can only be Celebi.
2. The solution that I posted (with the damage calcs to prove it)
The "something" move is Low Kick.
In the first scenario, "Barkers" can be either Primeape or Lucario.
In the second scenario, "Barkers" can only be Primeape. (Note: It's because Lucario can't be OHKOed by a Mewtwo non-critical Hidden Power, not due to Rest's perceived behavior in the riddle.)
Give up on Hidden Power, IVs are all 31. (@Cardsoftheheart)
It also gets Inner Focus.
Kadabra does not just get Synchronize.
It also gets Inner Focus.
Ha! I was the first one right. I'm awesome. Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww-I got it right-someeeeeee.
Also next time make it clear if there are items or not, and with items, that'll just BS every single riddle answer =[ (preferably no items at all!)
Also next time make it clear if there are items or not, and with items, that'll just BS every single riddle answer =[ (preferably no items at all!)
You were the first to mention Grass Knot Celebi, yes, but SWChill first mentioned only Celebi and Shaymin while QibingZero first alluded to both Celebi/Shaymin's Grass Knot and Primeape/Lucario's Low Kick.
I really don't like the way I'm coming off in this post, but I just needed to point out that your high horse shouldn't be as high as you're trying to ride it. XD
The thing is, anything that learns Grass Knot, can fit between Pikachu and Raikou's speeds, and can hit 295-412 effective SpAtk (without STAB) will work for the first part. Without items, the base 130+ pokemon that are in the correct speed range still work (Espeon, Latios) until the question of being OHKOed by Mewtwo shows up.
Interesting riddle nonetheless. Looking forward to the next one!
Interesting riddle nonetheless. Looking forward to the next one!
Lol, MoP is forgetting the fact that I was the first one to mention Celebi Grass Knot on irc :P
Also, that's lame, Obi just threw two things in at the end.
I was right with Kadabra provided items were allowed (they were originally) and it had to be HP Dark (as was originally stated).
I better win >=0
Also, that's lame, Obi just threw two things in at the end.
I was right with Kadabra provided items were allowed (they were originally) and it had to be HP Dark (as was originally stated).
I better win >=0
Where did Obi explicitly allow items?
'But Obi didn't specifically exclude them!' Yes, but the riddle started with a "simple scenario"; wouldn't items complicate things? Also:
Besides, "Barkers" was only one of TWO Pokemon. (Obi said that Low Kick was an oversight.) Wouldn't items open up that list to more than two? Even Obi is pretty sure that it would.
'But Obi first said all IVs had to be 31 thus Mewtwo had to have used Hidden Power Dark!' First off, Kadabra isn't guaranteed to be OHKOed in that case. Secondly, if Obi's intended solution was Celebi, there's no WAY that could be true because Mewtwo needs HP Bug to even glance at an OHKO on Celebi (1 in 13 chance, actually).
You know, if you look at guaranteed damages, my solution actually fits better than Obi's! (Celebi has a 1 in 39 chance of breaking Pikachu's sub with Grass Knot.)
Actually no, I'm still awesome. Because if you look in the first post, I mention a list of Low Kickers, which happens to be in the list? WHOA MY GOD PRIMEAPE AND LUCARIO
Also no Aldaron, that first post I had came BEFORE I bruoght up the subject on mIRC, and make no mistake, I was the one who brought it to everyone's attention 2 nights ago in the dead chat!
Therefore I'm still awe
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Also no Aldaron, that first post I had came BEFORE I bruoght up the subject on mIRC, and make no mistake, I was the one who brought it to everyone's attention 2 nights ago in the dead chat!
Therefore I'm still awe
wait for it
some
AWESOME
Fixed. Your list included Electabuzz and Electivire, too. I wasn't about to count that unless only Primeape and Lucario were in the list.
That doesn't make me any less right........seeing as how they still all fit the criteria..
I'll give you Electivire (though it's much less of a guarantee than Celebi's Grass Knot), but Electabuzz's Low Kick is far too weak.
Unless I'm doing something wrong, Electivire at -1 can't kill Raikou in that scenario. STAB makes all the difference, but even Primeape and Lucario can't guarantee the kill. No pokemon works for this all the time, but I believe I listed all the ones that are even possible in my first post in this thread.
Of course, since the rules weren't narrowed down enough and not one single pokemon fits, no one wins! Until next time, at least.
Of course, since the rules weren't narrowed down enough and not one single pokemon fits, no one wins! Until next time, at least.
Yeah, for some reason I didn't remember that crits hit based from their normal stat, not the lowered one. Usually the only thing that comes into play are crits on a CMing or Cursing pokemon.