A Quick Little OU RMT

13blue101

INTRODUCTION

Yeah I really did think of this team that fast. It's done pretty well but I always feel that I'm missing something important to its success. So I just wanted to get it down in writing since that always helps to evaluate things better. I swear most of my teams are at least half blue.​
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AT A GLANCE

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IN-DEPTH

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Metagross @ Lum Berry
Ability: Clear Body
Adamant Nature (+att, -sp.att)
Evs: 216 hp | 100att | 192 sp.def
-Bullet Punch
-Earthquake
-Stealth Rock
-Explosion
New lead with credits to Stathakis. Pretty much the same idea but with more power and a priority.​

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Kingdra @ Leftovers
Ability:Sniper
Adamant Nature (+att, -sp.att)
Evs: 240 hp | 96 att | 112 spe | sp.def
-Waterfall
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage
-Yawn/Sub
Trying something other than a mence or gyara. Its been pretty successful plus its kinda an underated dder being neautral to sr and has great typing for attacking and defending. gyara would be backp if he doesnt work out.​

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Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
Jolly Nature (+spe,-sp.att)
Evs: 252 att | 252 spe | 4 def
-Close Combat
-ExtremeSpeed
-Ice Punch
-Sword Dance
Ahh Lucario, Revenge killer extrodinair. He helps aid in my late game sweeps and revenge kills. Jolly for extra speed and Ice Punch for dragons, fliers, etc. I put him over Scizor for the sole fact he's blue (and he works well with my other guys) same​

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Azumarill @ Choice Band
Ability: Huge Power
Adamant Nature (+att,-sp.att)
Evs: 208 hp | 252 att | 48 sp.def
-Aqua Jet
-Waterfall
-Brick Break
-Ice Punch
Suggested by Stahakis again. Its been a breath of fresh air to this team being a non standard poke. Aqua Jet had saved me a ton of times against Scizors. They have to bullet punch rather than (other move). Im pretty sure i can live a +2 bp and do a ton back w/ AJ. ​

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Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
Careful Nature (+sp.def,-sp.att)
Evs: 168 hp | 220 sp.def | 120 def
-Return
-Curse
-Fire Punch
-Selfdestruct/Rest
Blisseys boy friend. helps with gyara and mence problem a bit. suggested by u guessed it Stathakis. power>para. im leaning more for the boom just to take out some major threats. lol ive added antoher blue guy xD

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Mismagius @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Timid Nature (+spe,-att)
Evs: 116 hp | 232 spe | 156 sp.att
-Shadow Ball
-HP Fighting
-Substitute
-Calm Mind
I found that Mags had been way more beneficial to my teams if the Screens aren't going to be up. He makes Blisseys look like a hardening Metapod. Fighting immunity, Sub to protect status and enough hp for a sub to live a(n) [insert anything besides shadow ball], then I just CM up for the late game sweep. same. really liking the poke a bunch
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CONCLUSION

Thanks for the suggestions in advanced and realize its for the OU teir(and I do have 2 BLs this time ^_^).
 
hmm you dont have any rates yet, i'll do a brief one since i have to go to some camp soon. After Bronzong is gone, which it will be, unless you preserve it for the explosion, Zapdos wreaks havoc on your team, and even if Bronzong does come to explode, SubRoosters beat your whole team bar Bliss if it doesnt have Toxic, and Missy since shes faster, and can CM in Zapdo's face. Incidentally, ScarfCross does a number on Missy, Bliss and Lucario, so if perchance both are on a team, you'd have a hard time stopping their offense. Gyarados might be changed to a RestTalking Bulkydos, which stops Hera, and might want to take Bronzong and give it 128Atk instead of defense, so that it's explosion can dent Zapdos more, and revenge it with extremespeed.

Nidoqueen and Starmie go a long way into stopping the two, Nidoqueen stopping hera dead in his tracks, and denting Zapdos with Stone Edges, and Starmie beating the two with more offense, Ice Beam for Zapdos and Psychic for Hera, though you might need prediction since Zappy's Thunderbolt and ScarfCross's Pursuit/Night Slash hurt a hell lot. Im deadstumped to put either of them over your current team though, maybe the others can contribute.
 
Zapdos Is a bit of a problem, but he is backing it up with support from Blissey, Bronzong can Explode, Jolly Luke can come in and revenge kill it, and Missy with a few CMs will also do well against it, it is not your biggest worry. I think Toxic on Blissey is a good suggestion, you could put it over Thunder Wave or possibly even Seismic Toss.

On the whole this team looks very well built, you have Gyara who can rip through things mid game, and damage some of Lukes more common counters. Vaporeon will easily deal with Gliscor, the Jolly ones that outspeed Lucario, and Missy can deal with it too if nessecary. In fact its basically Missy set up fodder. One thing worth mentioning is Hypnosis on Bronzong. If the 60% accuracy works for you then feel free to keep using it, but trick is also a good option. Trick Band works really well and you may even be able to trick a Band onto Zapdos, which will at least lock it into one attack and allow you to play around it. Band will also give you a nice Powerful explosion if you dont end up getting rid of it, which is also nice.

I haven't said this much before lol but Electivire can really give you some issues. It can come in on Vappys HP electric and KO a lot of your team, Missy being your primary form of defence against it (and Gyaras Intimidate) and it's not really a great counter. Perhaps Vappy can turn ito a Swampert (who will help out against HP Grassless Zapdos also) who will deal with this no end, Your Gyarados will at least keep other gyara at bay alongside Bronzongs explosion and Lucario to finish off, You could always put HP Electric or Stone Edge on the pert as well. CB Swampert may actually work quite well on your team actually. Allowing you to hit a lot of things hard, threats that you may not have so much coverage against such as Zapdos, DD mence etc... Blissey can then fulfill your wish-passing needs which is also good. Hope some of this helped :D
 
I'm so cool I'm going to make this team blue and make it better.

The first thing I thought when looking at this team was "wow why does this guy use blissey on a team where hardly anything actually benefits from the para and he has frigging vaporeon to stop all the trans and stuff and basically all he's going to get out of blissey at all is maybe a para or two on a mence but even then it's not really worth it blah blah blah." now, if you somehow got through that, i admire you. basically, I don't see how this team benefits from blissey. I'd rather you use a curselax over her, mainly since you have a ghost and a real bulky flier on the team, so explosions and fighting attacks (especially once the opponent gets desperate and super easy to predict) are no problem at all. on the other hand, scizor really is a bitch, as are pretty much all the other bulky steels, so I figured you could go a little antimetagame and shove fire punch on lax, which basically helps you get rid of skarm, forry, AND bronzong all in one fell swoop. and since this guy is meant to lure and stuff, let's go ahead and slap selfdestruct over rest, so you have something like curse / selfdestruct / firepunch / body slam, and basically you should be making your opponents tear out their hair because curselax who is normally so easy to deal with just killed off like 3 pokemon and they don't even know what happened.

when goldfan suggested cbpert i was like "hey that's not a bad idea" but now that I look at it more, while cbpert is a fine addition to this team I'm actually liking cb azumarill much better. he adds the random priority flying around which is great on offensive teams like this, but also the immediate big damage thing, which is another thing this team lacks. to be honest, this team is really too offensive to be wasting turns wishpassing while letting the opponent gain their footing, so I'd really rather you go with cbazu to smash walls and sweepers alike. in addition to the whole immediate damage thing, cb azu lures in and 2HKOs bulky waters which can give gyarados trouble, beats opposing gyaras most of the time as long as you dont let it get like 3 dds in like I do (it actually saved my ass once, since +2 lo eq does like 70% and then you do a number with double edge, while he's in ko range from espeed after that). brick break is also great as dual screens really slow this team down a whole lot. now, while I love cbazu on this team, I concede that swampert also looks like a great choice, mainly for reasons goldfan posted. mainly, it's between whether you want a more tanky, surefire ish counter to some things, or if you trust yourself to be able to play around them and want to reap the benefits of 654 attack with no setup.

moving on, i do like mismagious's ghost typing on the team, otherwise np explosion azelf looks really cool. you add even more speed to the team which is great, a third explosion is also real nice on these offensive teams. I'd tell you to do it straight away, but the ghost typing looks just too valuable. basically you trade the ability to switch in a bit for the ability to effectively lategame sweep while still able to randomly turn the tides with an explosion on anything troubling you. it really depends again on whether you want the more defensive, easier to switch in mismagious, or the balls-to-the-wall kill first ask questions later type thing with azelf, who basically sweeps while always able to randomly blow up and rip huge holes in the other team. azelf also has the cool blue factor.

honestly, I'm kinda on the fence as far as what to do on this team, if I should go conservative offense or just screw it I'm killing you first offense, but if I were you, I'd try and playtest both azu and pert, and both mismagious and azelf, and see what combination works best for you.
 
O_o whoa i never expected this much feedback for this team.

Im more of a conservative offensive player more than a full out 'sweep you now' kind of guy. Ill play around with swampy/azumaril thing. Even though i never liked cb pokes (except my chomp) i agree that they will be a positive for this team. I was already thinking about lax > bliss but i never got around to testing that out (hw and school) Mags will probably be used over azelf for the sole fact that ive never used one before ;) I probably forgot to mention somethings but Ill figure them out on my own. Tahnks for your rates guy.
 
after some testing, I must say I adore this team, and have rated it as such. after 30 games, I went 29-1 because at the hands of a very good player with hax on her side.

I tested basically cb azumarill, curselax, and lozelf, as well as bulky ddmence over gyara. also sr metagross over bronzong, but only for personal preference really. I also tried out cbpert.

basically, what's great about this team is that all of these silly stall / bulky offense teams stand no chance, with bulky ddmence, explosions galore, and sdluke. And offense has trouble keeping up with the insane amount of speed on the team. my only real qualm is that you have to play INCREDIBLY careful around ddmence / gyara. basically, what I do generally is flaunt azumarill early and blow up snorlax on mence and gyara, because there's really no other way to stop them, as there is no scarfer of any kind. for this reason, I was inclined to test scarfzelf over lozelf, but the results were unsatiscaftory, mainly because of the incredibly low damage output in comparison. because of this, it is required to play incredibly carefullly around ddmence and gyara, especially while they have oppertunities to come in on azumarill and lucario. cbpert handles mence and gyara great as well, but the priority is a major part of the team and I'd really hate to see it go.

basically, what I ended up doing in most of the games was get stuff in and start smashing things, while blowing up when done. this basically weakened the team so much that most of the time azumarilll had a clean sweep with aqua jet. other times, lucario found an opening and did his thing. bulkymence mainly took on fighters while also capitalizing on holes ripped open by lucario. if something happened to lucario, he cleaned up the scraps, as well as destroyed some offensive teams that played carelessly and let him get a dd or two too many.

great team!
 
this team is amazing imo i been testing out all your guys ideas on shoddy

for me it is

Bronzong/Azumarill/Lucario/Salamence/Snorlax/Mismagious
42-6 wins mismagious isnt the best for the team but does help
 
thanks for actually testing out the team you guys. my comp had a minor virus that didnt let me play shoddy. i actually like bulky mence more but i got tired of seeing him on all my teams and the fact that all lucarios i faced had ice punch. i get right back to testing what you guys haved stated as improvements on shoddy. thanks again.
 
i mostly use
Suicune@leftovers
252hp/252def/4spatk
calm mind
surf
roar
ice beam

2nd one is same but moveset
calm mind
surf
signal beam
hidden power thunder

I seen sub suicunes and their really good for this team i think it work well
 
Rahi123 said:
i mostly use
Suicune@leftovers
252hp/252def/4spatk
calm mind
surf
roar
ice beam

2nd one is same but moveset
calm mind
surf
signal beam
hidden power thunder

I seen sub suicunes and their really good for this team i think it work well
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ok. ill give each set a whirl. thx
 
Maybe try Gardevoir over Missy?
I know it doesnt have levitate, but Trace is useful for taking down enemy vaporeons, electrivires, or jolteons.
Statewise, Gardy is a bit slower but alot sturdier. Access to Wish is a plus. It also hits pretty damn hard. Personally, it pulls off the whole calm mind thing better than missy...but thats just me.
 
imo the only non-ghost that should be in mismagious's spot is azelf.

I am, however, thinking that maybe a scarfed rotom-w could work in mismagious's spot, by still breaking stall to some extent with trick and helping you to not be screwed over if mence and gyara get a dd. he also helps you against skymin should you blow up zong early.
 
could you edit your first post so we can see what your team looks like now? I know the previous posts you've changed it around a little bit, something about a azumaril and an azelf?
 
srry guys for not changing the team up. tons of hw and school stuff you know.

edit: all done and call me blue. someone already took blue13101 i think.
 
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