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Doubles ADV Sceptile

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[SET]
name: Fast Attacker
move 1: Leaf Blade
move 2: Crunch
move 3: Substitute / Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Protect
item: Lum Berry / Petaya Berry
ability: Overgrow
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Sceptile is faster than all other viable Pokemon in the tier, notably outspeeding maximum Speed Tyranitar after a Dragon Dance and many prevalent base 110s. With its notable coverage options, Sceptile is one of the tier's best revenge killers.
  • Leaf Blade 2HKOes Tyranitar, making Sceptile one of its best offensive checks. Leaf Blade also does significant damage to common Water-types such as Starmie and Suicune, and it notably OHKOes Swampert, which no non-Grass-type does without Explosion.
  • Sceptile 2HKOes Gengar with Crunch while surviving an Ice Punch in return. It also 3HKOes Latias and damages other Grass-resistant Pokemon such as Arcanine.
  • Lum Berry keeps Sceptile safe from Thunder Wave once. Substitute allows Sceptile to block further attempts to paralyze it, which would severely impact Sceptile's ability to pick off slower threats, or absorb Explosions without using Protect, letting Sceptile reliably use Protect the next turn if need be. Furthermore, Substitute can be used to activate Overgrow and consume Petaya Berry, after which Sceptile can OHKO Tyranitar with Leaf Blade and uninvested Gengar with Crunch.
  • Sceptile can also run another coverage option for common checks, such as Hidden Power Ice for Zapdos or Hidden Power Fire for Metagross.
  • Sceptile is frail and performs better in later stages of the game, when its teammates have dealt with Pokemon that Sceptile's coverage misses out on, such as Snorlax and Heracross. Sceptile pairs up well with Explosion users like Metagross and Gengar, which can make up for Sceptile's lacking firepower unless it's landing super effective moves or picking off low-HP foes.
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[SET]
name: Fast Attacker
move 1: Leaf Blade
move 2: Crunch
move 3: Substitute / Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Protect
item: Lum Berry / Petaya Berry
ability: Overgrow
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Sceptile is faster than all other viable Pokémon in the tier, notably outspeeding max Speed Tyranitar after a Dragon Dance and many prevalent Pokémon at the base 110 speed tier. With its notable coverage options, Sceptile is one of the tier's best revenge killers.
  • Leaf Blade is Sceptile's main STAB attack. It 2HKOes and outspeeds +1 max Speed Tyranitar, making Sceptile one of its best offensive checks. Leaf Blade does significant damage to common Water-types such as Starmie and Suicune, and it notably OHKOes Swampert, which no other non-Grass-type does without Explosion.
  • Sceptile 2HKOes Gengar with Crunch while living an Ice Punch in return. It also 3HKOes Latias and damages other Grass-type resists such as Arcanine.
  • Substitute blocks Thunder Wave which would severely impact Sceptile's ability to pick off slower threats, and it blocks potential Explosions without burning a Protect. Furthermore, Substitute can be used to enable Overgrow and consume Petaya Berry, after which Sceptile can OHKO Tyranitar with Leaf Blade and uninvested Gengar with Crunch.
  • Sceptile can also choose to run coverage options for common checks, such as Hidden Power Ice for Zapdos or Hidden Power Fire for Metagross. If preferring coverage, Sceptile can run Lum Berry to avoid being paralyzed once. think you meant for this to be its own bullet point?
  • Sceptile is frail and performs better in the later stages of the game, when your teammates have dealt with Pokémon which Sceptile's coverage misses out on, such as against Snorlax and Heracross. Powerful attackers with Explosion like Metagross and Gengar can make up for Sceptile's lack of firepower. i would also emphasize somewhere that sceptile is just really not that strong if not hitting things for super effective and functions best at just spamming leaf blade or picking off pokemon with very low hp

qc 1/2
 
No issues, GP time.

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Add/Fix Remove Comment (AC): Add Comma
[SET]
name: Fast Attacker
move 1: Leaf Blade
move 2: Crunch
move 3: Substitute / Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Protect
item: Lum Berry / Petaya Berry (either Petaya Berry should be slashed first bc sub is slashed first, or, if lum is standard even with substitute, you should explain why this isn't redundant)
ability: Overgrow
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Sceptile is faster than all other viable Pokemon (removed E accent) in the tier, notably outspeeding maximum Speed Tyranitar after a Dragon Dance and many prevalent Pokémon at the base 110 speed tier. base 110s. With its notable coverage options, Sceptile is one of the tier's best revenge killers.
  • Leaf Blade is Sceptile's main STAB attack. It 2HKOes and outspeeds +1 max lets Sceptile outspeed and 2HKO +1 maximum Speed Tyranitar, making Sceptile one of its best offensive checks. Leaf Blade does significant damage to common Water-types such as Starmie and Suicune, and it notably OHKOes Swampert, which no other non-Grass-type does without Explosion.
  • Sceptile 2HKOes Gengar with Crunch while living surviving an Ice Punch in return. It also 3HKOes Latias and damages other Grass-type resists Grass-resistant Pokemon such as Arcanine.
  • Substitute blocks Thunder Wave, (AC) which would severely impact Sceptile's ability to pick off slower threats, and it blocks potential Explosions without burning a Protect. (the importance of burning a protect could be clarified a bit - eg is the problem that protect would make scept unable to safely use protect the next turn? implement however you desire) Furthermore, Substitute can be used to enable activate Overgrow and consume Petaya Berry, after which Sceptile can OHKO Tyranitar with Leaf Blade and uninvested Gengar with Crunch.
  • Sceptile can also choose to run coverage options run another coverage option for common checks, such as Hidden Power Ice for Zapdos or Hidden Power Fire for Metagross.
  • If preferring maximum coverage, Sceptile can run Lum Berry to avoid being paralyzed once.
  • Sceptile is frail and performs better in later stages of the game, when its teammates have dealt with Pokemon which that Sceptile's coverage misses out on, such as against Snorlax and Heracross. Sceptile pairs up well with Explosion users like Metagross and Gengar, (AC) which can make up for Sceptile Sceptile's lacking firepower unless its hitting it's landing super effective (removed hyphen) moves or picking off foes with low HP. low-HP foes.
[CREDITS]
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Grammar checked by:
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GP Team done
 
implemented this and asked Adeleine if the new comments were sufficient clarification
+ removed Lum Berry as an individual point and included it in the Sub bullet
+ didn't add a Protect comment because I feel this is a general/basic Doubles mechanic and that explaining those is a bit out of C&C's scope

ready for upload
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i'd really like you to change the protect comment a bit. analyses are often a gateway for new players who don't understand the metagame, and what is basic to people familiar with the metagame may not be basic to these readers. while the basic 'mechanics' of pokemon in the sense of move data, nature effects, etc. are indeed out of c&c's scope, metagame-specific interactions generally are not out of that scope: for example, rby's mewtwo analysis explains stat rollover mechanics in a way more accessible to non-rby players, and various bh analyses explain imposter interactions in a way more accessible to non-bh players. i've checked dozens of dubs analyses and still had to ask someone else to make sure i knew what you meant with the protect comment, and, while my intial guess was right, it seems pretty plausible that new players could have confusion and think it was e.g. a PP issue.

a possible short change that doesn't require a new sentence could be "...Explosions without using Protect, letting Sceptile reliably use Protect the next turn if need be." of course, plenty of other possibilities are fine too.

additionally, for the sake of communication, please let us respond to a material non-change (if like we put a word twice by mistake, and you fix that, that isn't what i mean by 'material') you make before sending the analysis for upload–this change isn't life-threatening, and we can always submit a CMS change if need be, but it's just good we all stay on the same page with what's going on. eg if someone misunderstands an important change, mistakenly decides not to implement it, and the gper doesn't happen to recheck the thread, that'd be unfortunate
 
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