The Colbur Berry will activate before Knock Off removes it. I don't know if it hits for 97 BP or 65 BP but the berry will halve the damage. Presumably Knock Off would hit for 65 because by the time it actually strikes Colbur Berry will have activated and been used up.
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Pokémon Aegislash
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The Colbur Berry will activate before Knock Off removes it. I don't know if it hits for 97 BP or 65 BP but the berry will halve the damage. Presumably Knock Off would hit for 65 because by the time it actually strikes Colbur Berry will have activated and been used up.
I don't play Battle Spot but is Stance Dance even viable there? With all of those Mega Moms and Rotom-Ws running around I'd rather use a Mixed or Special set that isn't murdered by burns. There's also the fact that Stance Dance is meant to sweep late game when all of your counters are weakened or dead, which is kind of hard to do in Battle Spot when you don't know if your opponent even has said counters.
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On battle spot I use:
WP Aegislash
Evs:252 hp, 126 atk, 126 sp. atk, 6 speed
Item: Weakness Policy
Moves: Autotomize
King's Shield
Sacred Sword
Shadow Ball
Nature: Relaxed(It was caught as a honedge on route 7 so its not a really good nature)
You could always breed a Naive one for WP Autotomize, you know.
oh thanks
252 HP 252 Def means aegislash misses out on a LOT of power and shadow sneak fails to do damage to anything in OU, unless there is a hidden ghost-psychic type with base 10 defense in the game. I mean:
0 Atk Aegislash-Blade Shadow Sneak vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 82-97 (27.6 - 32.6%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
And:
252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Aegislash-Blade: 510-600 (157.4 - 185.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Why shadow sneak? Really?
Most Aegislash actually run 0 Attack investment unless they're Stance Dance because Shadow Ball is so spammable and unaffected by Burns. Also, why would you use Shadow Sneak on a Talonflame when the only way they can hit you is with Flare Blitz and Shadow Sneak will make you go first?
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Well this set doesn't run shadow ball, now does it? And Talonflame can will-o-wisp or something during king's shield. Aegislash cant hurt talonflame, thats the problem
Would Sacred Sword be any better? Or toxic? Or let him set up a bulk up/swords dance on king's shield?(On bulkyflame)
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While I can't answer for other people, I don't believe that 0 Speed was ever really popular because people were trying to outrun minimum-Speed Tyranitar with Quiet and 12 Speed. Also, I've found that creeping other Aegislash has been much more beneficial than out slowing them, reason being that when the inevitable Aegislash v Aegislash comes up in a battle, most of the time neither is at 100% health. Shadow Ball from one Tank Aegis to another, one in Blade, the other in Shield, still does a whopping 69.5 - 82.6%, which is usually more than enough to KO it at the time. I've only had a few 100% vs 100% confrontations because Aegis is so often used to absorb a hit at all stages of the match.
It's personal preference and dependent on the rest of your team. If your team has a few Tyranitar counters, you might opt to stick with the 0 speed IVs.
There is also Azumarill. You don't really want to outspeed it.
And in Tyranitar's case, it also depends on whether you are using Sacred Sword or not. Steel attacks can't OHKO Tyranitar, so there isn't much point in outspeeding it if you're gonna be KO'd anyway.
And in Tyranitar's case, it also depends on whether you are using Sacred Sword or not. Steel attacks can't OHKO Tyranitar, so there isn't much point in outspeeding it if you're gonna be KO'd anyway.
Weakness policy is always fun since you can autotomize while you tank the SE hit, and then on the next turn you're +2/+2/+2.
That said, a lot of people are still wary to just hit Aegis carelessly with an SE hit, despite the fact that he doesn't run WP quite as much anymore, so you may just end up with a fast Aegislash who dies to the first thing he can't OHKO.
One move that kind of intrigues me is Power Trick. Having titanic physical bulk while a monstrous sp. Attack sounds pretty sweet, but is power trick too gimmicky?
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whats the point, his ability already does that for him
The point is it lets Aegislash either have base 150 Atk and SDef (Shield Forme) or SAtk and Def. (Blade Forme) These are both different then its normal stat arrays/
Ah interesting I was not aware of this and haven't seen it used before. I stand corrected and also question its viability :0
I could foresee it having niche uses on Substitute sets for the Blade spread, giving it usable Physical Bulk to keep Subs intact more easily while Toxic wears down opponents, but it ultimately seems a bit gimmicky, since he'd have to pull it off every time comes in after switching to Blade Form, and the Shield form's boost only hurts him, since he has to change forms to attack at all, and that would only increase his attack and reduce his defense, which pretty much invites Foul Play.
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