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Amoonguss
- Thread starter Don Honchkrorleone
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I got owned with an Amoonguss/Slowbro core, and I think I might use it, since it took hits really well. Spore is epic, and it takes out a Pokemon for pretty much the entire match. :P
This thing is actually really good and very specialy bulky. I have talked a lot about my Slowbro and Amoongus combo before and it always bugged me when people would use tangrowth and slowbro when amoongus has always seemed much more superior to me with better synergy with Slowbro and Spore. He is amazingly specially bulky and I have taken Overheats from Rotom heat and thaen recovered health back with Regeneration.
This thing is bulky on both sides of the spectrum, and it's surprisingly a pretty good attacker too, taking large chunks of health out of specially weak Pokemon. I might try and fit one of these bulky mushrooms into my team. Spore is a godsend, especially when there's a Pokemon that's destroying your team, and Amoonguss can survive a hit from it, Spore it, and it's usually incapacitated for the remainder of the match. Black Sludge as an item might be able to work too, but there's always the chance of getting it Tricked to one of your healthy Pokes and screwing with it, while taking your Lefties or Eviolite or what have you. The only problem is that its' movepool is pretty shallow, but it gets Toxic and Spore, which are two excellent status-inducing moves. It also gets Rage Powder, but I have no idea what the hell that's all about, and it sounds like a waste of a move slot unless in doubles, and even then, it still sounds like a waste.
Rage Powder is basically Follow Me, and Amoongus was one of 2 users of RP(the other was Volcarona), which made him like, complete god in VGC.
But Rage Powder fails horribly in singles, it isn't even worth the moveslot unless you're specifically in doubles and triples.
you don't need Rage Powder in Singles, Spore/Giga Drain is more than enough...
There's no need for Rage Powder in singles since every damaging attack is already hitting you anyways. You could possibly use HP Ice/HP Fire for coverage, and Toxic/Spore is a double status. Along with Giga Drain, there's your four moves. Amoonguss doesn't really have a diverse move pool, but it works for a bulky mushroom.
Yeah, don't use Rage Powder in singles, it's meant for doubles.
-_- I was merely saying how Rage Powder had no competitive value in singles.. Who says I was arguing? (Yay, 100 posts! And what a wonderful post I made. -_- )
Amoonguss has Spore, Giga Drain, and it can learn Rage Powder if you're a doubles/triples fanatic. It's got all it needs to shine. It's also a bulky ass mofo, and it can wreck shit with its' 100% accurate sleep move, possibly incapacitating a foe for the entire match. With Leech Seed, it would be perfect, but without it, it's still ownage.
dont overestimate it too much I mean its definetely underestimated in todays m,etagmae but still. Amoongus has shitty offensive prowress and there are many bulky grass types competing for its spot. Im not saying its outclassed but you have to use it for its niches with: Spore, Clear Smog, Regneration and poison typing for it to shine. Celebi has better offensive prowress and more well roundded defensive stats, Eruffun has Prankster Leech Seed and Brellom has Spore and Poison heal (or Technician) and Amoongus has the traits listed above. Amoongus also has to fully invest in special defense/defense for it to be truly bulky.
On the note of an actual set I love the dual status with Spore and Toxic. It makes a great partner with bulky stat upper like calm mind Latias or something as she can set up on the sleeping pokemon, stall the poisoned ones out and attempt up a sweep with its boosts. Also Clear Smog seems like a must to me as it is set up bait otherwise if sleep clause is in effect. Clear smog is an underated move in general
On the note of an actual set I love the dual status with Spore and Toxic. It makes a great partner with bulky stat upper like calm mind Latias or something as she can set up on the sleeping pokemon, stall the poisoned ones out and attempt up a sweep with its boosts. Also Clear Smog seems like a must to me as it is set up bait otherwise if sleep clause is in effect. Clear smog is an underated move in general
I never said that, I said that Rage Powder is unnecesarry. I only mentioned it being similar to Follow Me...
Anyway, Amoongus, unlike Breloom or Parasect, is more of a wall than a sweeper. It's probably one of the closest you have to a bulky Grass-type(fuck Shaymin and Celebi)
Amoonguss is more bulky then both Breloom and Parasect because it isn't really meant to be a sweeper. Plus, it's a big poisonous mushroom, so it should have some defenses to back it up. Tangela and Tangrowth are both physically bulky, while Cradily is a bulky mofo on both sides with SS up.
I run a very successful set of:
Toxic/body slam/synthesis/protect with regenerate. I can safely know that it can take a dragonite fire punch and hopefully paralyse it or poison it or take on a exadrill and survive an unboosted x-scissor. He is extremely bulky and with some hazard support or scarf pokemon he can easily hurt teams. Also when I verse people on standard effect spore has helped.
Toxic/body slam/synthesis/protect with regenerate. I can safely know that it can take a dragonite fire punch and hopefully paralyse it or poison it or take on a exadrill and survive an unboosted x-scissor. He is extremely bulky and with some hazard support or scarf pokemon he can easily hurt teams. Also when I verse people on standard effect spore has helped.
I usually prefer playing on hard copies of the game and not the simulator, which is the only thing keeping me from using Amoonguss.
Playing Wifi means I'm stuck with Effect Spore, which isn´t even that bad an ability, except for one thing: It can break sleep clause.
And that, from my current knowledge, would cost me the match, intentional or not, am I right?
I'm asking because I used it on a simulator just once and was VERY pleased with it. 4x fighting resist is pretty awesome with Conk around.
Playing Wifi means I'm stuck with Effect Spore, which isn´t even that bad an ability, except for one thing: It can break sleep clause.
And that, from my current knowledge, would cost me the match, intentional or not, am I right?
I'm asking because I used it on a simulator just once and was VERY pleased with it. 4x fighting resist is pretty awesome with Conk around.
Body Slam and Toxic conflict. Body Slam is just terrible for its only attacking move and I would rather use Stun Spore for parylization with Giga Drain over Synthesis. I wouldnt runprotect either especially with recovery provided by regeneration.
I cant really explain his lack of use. I mean his typing seems offputting to a lot of people so I dont see whats wrong with it. I suppose there are just so many other bulky grass types that players feel having their niches is better than having spore and regeneration.
Yeah, this. I actually run Spore/Toxic/Sub/Giga Drain so I'm not total taunt bait. I use max hp so I can make 101 subs, and a bit of sp attack, enough of his weaker defense to even them up, 4 speed and a bold nature. Just so bulky. It's Trollific. :)
Yeah I guess. For a moveset I think Sub is kind of a waste considering he doesnt have reliable recovery and he cant be toxiced. Thats just me. I think Clear Smog is really underrated as Amoongus can be set up bait a lot of the time and no one seems to expect it. I run max hp and special defense as I pair it with slowbro to take physical hits. I then run it with a bulyk set up sweeper that can set up on the cores weaknesses such as swords dance Cobalion in UU or SD Scizor in OU as they really benefit from Spore
