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Also I wont be here deadline and ive been mulling t over at work; and this probably seems like me flip flopping but for now I want this lynch FH _---> Earlio. Pretty sure that busts this game open. And im gonna stick hard and fast to this.
 
Vote Count 7.2

Earlio (1): Jalmont
Jalmont (1): Former Hope
Former Hope (2): Prophylaxis, 3P1K
Not Voting (2): Earlio, Haruno

With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch.

Deadline in ~3 hours.
 
whoa deadline is in 3 hours

don't think i'll be able to do the pros/cons, so let's just lynch FH and see what shakes out

we can come back to re-evaluate if necessary in f4/f3, but.. i think FH ends the game
 
Former Hope if you want to say anything, now's the time

if you're town, operate on a world where I'm confirmed town - i know that's not what you truly believe in, nor what you want to do, but it is actually what is true in this gamestate

if you think epik is scum, explain it through behavior. why does he makes sense as buddies with knights/aubisio/xnad?
 
Because seriously, when there's one person cocky enough to feel they can control the towns lynch when they aren't confirmed town, that person will probably be scum and proph this game has gotten it way too easy
 
Former Hope said:
Because seriously, when there's one person cocky enough to feel they can control the towns lynch when they aren't confirmed town, that person will probably be scum and proph this game has gotten it way too easy
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i've been putting a fair amount of effort into trying to solve the game and figure out who the last scum is

i'm not controlling the town's lynch by any means, just putting down my thoughts with reasoning and asking people to give input
 
OK I skimmed that frickin game

Basically all I got out of it was that FH was lurky at the beginning parts, but claimed a conditional vig in order to get into endgame. Also he was very very mechanics focused in that game, which parallels his focus in this one

I wanted to see how he defended himself but it was mostly like "if I was actually scum I wouldn't do X" which.. not helpful

plus the scum were very underpowered compared to the town
 
yeah, I've convinced myself.

Vote Former Hope

1. Doesn't have great interactions with flipped scum. Blazade distanced from both Xnadroj and Aubisio (in that he voted them and then voted someone else after) and he wasn't scumreading Xnadroj and Knights especially hard when Former replaced in the thread.
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Rooster Run

Translated from my notes and sorted by TR, NR, SR, and dead players.

Aubisio: I didn't like 296 for ignoring Asek's other interactions. Instead of NKA, he's just singling out a guy. But wasting a persuade on a scummate doesn't make sense, and that bumps him up from scumlean to Townlean for me.

Whydon: Most of the night I've been rereading this guy. Argumentative and a little defensive, but I like the points he makes in 104/105, the Epik section of his roster run, and the part about Jalmont in 483. Townlean.

Mithril/Texas: Mithril was null until Texas came in and knocked it out of the park. My strongest Townread and my vote for village leader. But see the last line of the Jalmont section, because that's dragging down his gameplay.

Hal: I'd say Twin Jr. if he looked like he was playing in a vacuum. A lot of naked votes here, but he's engaging players and providing content. Pushing Blazade in D2 and his interactions with Epik suggests he's Town.

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Haruno: The concert is over, right? Where is he? Null for being scraps.

Hawkie: Another disappearing act. Null until Hawkie comes back with more content.

Durza: Sub his punk ass. Proph's 1000x better than this guy.

Jalmont: When he started in on Haruno for PL, I was expecting a tunnel he would ride to oblivion. Past experience says such a stance (where he'd be pushed hard to get turbo'd after the tunnel flips green) would've locked him in as obviTown and there'd be scum among those who would push him about it. But those events never happened. And now the read's getting clouded by fighting and attitude. Null and subject to further scrutiny. Also, I still want it in writing that the fighting's gonna stop.

Moody: His presence is somewhat muted, though I did see a sign of his Townplay. A lot of commentary without much wagon interaction. I'd love to see a reads list from him, along with an elaboration on 438. Null bordering on Townlean.

Earlio: The VI impression that resulted from his derps could carry him far, but I don't like the bowing and scraping he's been doing. Null bordering on scumlean.

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Epik: I could understand anyone ignoring an opinion in order to push someone, but requesting multiple opinions and then ignoring one and not waiting for the other is lip service. He's steered the wagons onto mislynches for two days and my gut is screaming at me over it. If he brushes off Twin's wagonomics like he did with Thunder, I'm parking on him. Scum

Blaz/Former: Blaz was a Townbiased player with RL issues affecting the slot. I see a possible link between him and Epik, though, along with the Blaz/Jordan theory. I need more rereads here and some content from Former, so it's a weak scumlean rn.

Jordan: Jordan opposing Blaz's wagon definitely links them. I also see parallels to Epik in the wagonomics and Epik's own lighter defense of Blaz. Epik, Jordan, and Blaz reads a little too convoluted to be three scum, particularly with the odd way Epik and Jordan sort of mirror each other. The easiest answer seems to be flip the scummiest of the trio and go from there. Scumlean.

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Twin: Dead Town. Considering he was playing like he was just doing his own thing without regard to others, kinda obviTown, too. Common sense indicates that a player who brusquely acts on their own is not on a team where they have to answer to or consider the input of others. I didn't defend this hard enough.

Asek: Dead Town. Interactions with Jalmont, Moody, Jordan, Earlio, and myself. Suspected Moody for active lurking, Jalmont for pushing PL in early D1 and myself for a clumsy D1. Had a metaread on Hawkie.

Thunder: Dead Town. Was voted for being elsewhere instead of active in the game and for his self-pres vote.
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So I just got to this post in my reread and now I'm sooort of second guessing myself.

Scum usually like to put one scum/two town on their scumlist, and if Former/EPIK is town, then that's what Knights is doing here: He's putting down two town (Former/EPIK) and one scum down (xnad). He also put Aubisio up there as a strong townread. Which makes me think: Would Knights be the kind of scum player to put one scum down as very town, one scum down as null, and one scum down as leaning scum?

I don't know Knights super duper well as a player but I was just going to go gung-ho on Former but this is making me.. stop and reconsider a bit. Like, scum putting two buddies on their scum list is a thing but it's rarer. Does Knights have another scum game aside from this one?

WHY IS THIS GAME SO HARD

I swear I'm going to look back on this game after it ends and say "man Proph you're such a dummy, it was really obv" or "why didn't you consider XYZ" but endgames are HARD and I HATE them

Like oh my god I literally just felt great about Jalmont/Earlio when I did my ISOs on them but now I am tempted to take a quick skim over again. I just want this game to end so I can move on with my life but it's sooooooo difficult.
 
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