Anyone interested in Pay to Play Pokemon?

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Please post here if you would be interested in playing Pokemon for real money. We will probably be using a reliable middleman with a Paypal (generally considered the best) account to do the money thing. Details are still being worked out, good ideas are generally welcome.

To minimize the luck factor, we may be holding best out of 3 and/or double elimination.
 
I have one question. Would it be a tournament where you pay $5 and have a chance to win somewhere around 100 if you win, or is it just betting on a single game?

I'd probably be interested in doing pay to play Pokemon every once in a while.
 
I think the big idea is something simple like everyone who participates hands in $5, and the winner gets it all. But as the OP said, details still need working out, not only from staff members, but also from you guys.
 
If dissenting comments are allowed, I don't agree with this paying to play pokemon at all. In my opinion, playing pokemon is a fun game to play in your spare time, or to make online friends with. Making this game into a competitive pay thing is going to the next level and will take the fun out of the game and putting pressure on winning because of money. If Smogon.com, a site with an "academic university-like theme," is going to distract many already addicted Shoddybattlers, with the promise of money, from what they should focus on in real life such as social, academics, etc. then that is simply counterintuitive.
Essentially: Pay to play pokemon means: "trying to make something you spend a lot of your spare time doing seem somewhat important to your real life." And to tell you the truth, promoting that position is kind of lame.
 
winner takes all?_?

this is your tournament though and it sounds like a good idea but i would probably do something like top 3 get in the money with the winnings being 50 / 30 / 20
 
Thebattler1 said:
If dissenting comments are allowed, I don't agree with this paying to play pokemon at all. In my opinion, playing pokemon is a fun game to play in your spare time, or to make online friends with. Making this game into a competitive pay thing is going to the next level and is seriously taking the fun out of the game and putting pressure on winning because of money. If Smogon.com, a site with an "academic university-like theme" is going to distract many already addicted Shoddybattlers, with the promise of money, from what they should focus on in real life such as social, academics, etc. then that is simply counterintuitive.
Essentially: Pay to play pokemon means: "trying to make something you spend a lot of your spare time doing seem somewhat important to your real life." And to tell you the truth its kind of lame.
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What about Yugioh, Magic the Gathering, Pokemon TCG, and even, yes, D/p tournaments in card shops across the country?? Those cost money, and give out cash prizes.

Anyway, I'd probably be interested depending on the details.
 
Jimbo said:
What about Yugioh, Magic the Gathering, Pokemon TCG, and even, yes, D/p tournaments in card shops across the country?? Those cost money, and give out cash prizes.

Anyway, I'd probably be interested depending on the details.
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The motive of those card companies are mainly related to interests in profits, they are businesses, they don't care about how good you are at the game or how competitive the game is, they made the game to generate money, and they want to promote their products. So those examples really don't apply. Smogon.com is obviously not trying to make profits, so we are debating the principle of paying to play pokemon, itself. People don't have to agree with me if they believe that paying money from your pockets or your parents pockets to play pokemon is allright, this is what I think.
 
Who cares, no one is forcing you to. A lot of people here are over 18 can make their own decisions as to whether they want to pay to play. Smogon won't be making any profits, the user who wins the game will obviously be making the profit.
 
Personally, I don't really like this idea.

Like it's been said in previous posts, this would make Smogon to competitive, and some people might just play for the $. Also, some people might be sore losers and withdraw payment or do something that totally destroys the system and results in a lawsuit or something.

Also, I don't think many parents would appreciate having their children give away or getting $ from people they don't even know in real life. I know parents wouldn't like it at all. Getting $ from real-life tournaments is different; at least you can see your opponent face to face and know that they can't withdraw their $ as easily if they lose. Also, those things are organized by big-name companies. Not to make Smogon look bad or anything, but I think that few people would be as comfortable putting their $ into a website that isn't really part of a big-name company as they would in putting their $ into an officially-organized tournament.
 
i'd be interested

edit: very very interested. like maybe a league that plays a lot. not just like a couple times a year.
 
Like it's been said in previous posts, this would make Smogon to competitive, and some people might just play for the $. Also, some people might be sore losers and withdraw payment or do something that totally destroys the system and results in a lawsuit or something.
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if you withdraw payment, then you will most likely be banned from the forums and im pretty sure no one here is going to refuse to pay as i would expect any "no-names" arent allowed to play. when i say no name, i mean new users with very little post count or people who rarely visit forums / shoddy.
 
KD24 said:
winner takes all?_?

this is your tournament though and it sounds like a good idea but i would probably do something like top 3 get in the money with the winnings being 50 / 30 / 20
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I agree with this 100%.

I'd probably be personally interested in something like this, but more importantly I think it's a really good idea and something we should be doing.
 
KD24 said:
if you withdraw payment, then you will most likely be banned from the forums and im pretty sure no one here is going to refuse to pay as i would expect any "no-names" arent allowed to play. when i say no name, i mean new users with very little post count or people who rarely visit forums / shoddy.
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Eh, that's true, but it doesn't change the fact that the $ is still withdrawn and the careful balance of the tournament is gone.
 
I'd probably be willing to give it a go if I could sort out an account of some kind.
 
Relevant to my interests. I'm not a bad pokemoner by far, I usually just have things I'd rather be doing right now in my life. However, playing for money I think I'd be pretty into it once again.
 
I don't see why you guys are complaining or bringing up that little kids' parents won't be ok with it, because obviously it would be a small tournament and only the well-known and reliable would be admitted, and many Smogoners are old enough to make their own decisions. If you don't want to pay to play, then don't. Users who are willing to take the risk should be allowed to because it will obviously be done with complete honesty. Obviously it's not like Smogon is suddenly going to be pay-to-join or anything. It's just some fun that personally I don't see likely to be too expensive, but either way. If you think Smogon is promoting you sit on a computer chair all day and play Pokémon, that couldn't be further from the truth. Most people here have quite fulfilling lives irl and it only really reflects on you if you think Smogon is populated by the reclusive! Either way, there are plenty of competitive tournaments irl where you pay for either cash or item prizes; go complain to the organisers of those, as they're 'bigger-time'. Smogon is not the mom of you guys and shouldn't be responsible for promoting exercise or studying or whatever shit you guys are saying we should promulgate (a ck word, heh)
 
If I had money I'd do it!

Seems like a cool way for me to blow my money.


Though pokemon is so luck based this is glorified internet gambling ahaha

EDIT- I agree with the sentiment that 'if you don't like it don't join'. Also that something like the top 3 spots should get the money, not just #1.
 
Well, there are ways to minimise luck-basedness, like best of three or double elimination.

I think this is a really cool idea personally
 
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