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Archeops

green_flash said:
use defog, remove stealth rock.

either uturn once you see something you can't kill, or switch out if you smell priority attack.
scizor is kept at bay by shandaara anyway
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Does Defog really clear entry hazards on your side now? Or does it still inexplicably clear the opponents field. I'm confused, please tell me this has been changed.
 
I love this thing, but its ability is very risky.

Considering Deck Knight's mention of itemless Acrobat (which certainly has potential), how about using Sitrus Berry? It restores HP, and after using it, Acrobat becomes quite strong.
 
broodjekebab said:
I love this thing, but its ability is very risky.

Considering Deck Knight's mention of itemless Acrobat (which certainly has potential), how about using Sitrus Berry? It restores HP, and after using it, Acrobat becomes quite strong.
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I like the principal of that idea, but I don't know if Sitrus Berry would be best. I'm just afraid he wouldn't be able to take enough of a hit, and the first attack landed on him either oneshots him or brings him low enough that Sitrus doesn't bring him back above half. Maybe something like Lum Berry, or, if people begin to fancy a specific counter, one of the SE-weakening berries? (probably too situational there, but I'm brainstorming)
 
I'd probably end up just keeping Archaeos hidden until late game when it can sweep, once priority users are dead and sr is either gone or it won't have to switch out anyway.
 
This Pokemon will be one of the most interesting to try out.

It can definitely play as a trump card, for the end of a match when the opponents Pokemon are all hurt. Bring it in after a Pokemon has fainted, and SR be damned, or not, start ripping everything to shreds.

Finding the chance to Claw Sharpen is obviously a key to many of these sets, since it makes Stone Edge a 'reliable' move.
 
The moment I saw Archaeos, I wanted it. I also like Aerodactyl, having the same typing and similar statistical style was probably a major reason for why I just like Archaeos as well. Well reasons are redundant, I just want it.

It's stat spread makes it look like a mighty force to be reckoned with, but then you look at it's ability, which weakens it and then it doesn't seem so tough. However with such low defences and and the new generation reinforcing powerhouses, for the most part it's not that big a deal as most likely wouldn't survive a hit anyway.

Weak Knees offers more negatives though. Focus Sash will not be an option for a hold item and Stealth Rock severely limits switches. Maybe, possibly, Stealth Rock will get less emphasis than the previous gen, then again it might get more.

So Archaeos will serve it's role in the Metagame as a revenge killer and a late sweeper, and I'm sure it will do it's job well. The stats are geared to it and it has a great movepool physical wise. Special wise it's poor enough that making Archaeos as a purely special sweeper is just not the way to go.

Choice sets are an obvious choice, but the idea of Acrobat with no item isn't bad either. In fact, Archaeos would have one of the most powerful physical flying moves then, there are plenty of bulky grasses and fighting types it can be used on.

I'm definitely going to give Archaeos a go, perhaps kill some unsuspecting Dragons with Dragon Claw. That feeling is good.
 
You could also go somewhat mixed I suppose.
Archaeos @ Nothing
252 atk/252 spa/4 spe
Acrobat
Stone Edge/Rock Slide
Earthquake/Dragon Claw
Dragon Pulse/Earth Power
Obviously picking one of Ground and one Dragon as phys and spec. It would be nice for him to Claw Sharpen and make Stone Edge reliable, but it'll be hard for him to find that chance.
 
Update!

An important update regarding his ability. On Serebii, his ability is now called: Faint Hearted

More importantly, the effect is changed:
If it's HP drops below 50%, Attack is decreased

This changes everything, as he now keeps his powerful Special Attack and Speed! :D

Update the thread!

http://serebii.net/pokedex-bw/567.shtml
 
on top of stealth rock, it doesn't help its cause that mach punch, vacuum wave, and ice shard all hit it for neutral, and aqua jet hits for SE. this means that pokemon can priority it into being weak-kneed, and avoid the huge it its about to deliver.
 
Oh, right, only the Attack Stat? That's good news.

I mean, Archeos was still viable before, but in my opinion this makes it moreso. With Speed unaffected, he still has access to Taunt and Endeavour, making him a great lead, and U-Turn gives him the opportunity to escape when outmatched.

Also, with Claw Sharpen, those unwieldy Rock Moves get a look in. Two or even just the one Sword Dance boost from Baton Pass means Weak-Knees isn't as crippling as it could be - Priority Moves and Haze obviously get in the way, but when has that not been the case?

He gets Dragon Pulse and Earth Power as Special Moves, which aren't bad at all. He also gets Hyper Beam if you're feeling lulzy.
 
Yessss. The ability has gone from potentially crippling to an inconvenience to be worked around. This is WONDERFUL news!
Maybe a set like this:

Archaeos @ Nothing/Berry that would get used early
252 attack / 252 speed / 4 sp. attack
Acrobat
Stone Edge
Claw Sharpen/Earthquake
Dragon Pulse/Earth Power/Focus Blast

If you don't think he'd have a chance to get a Claw Sharpen in, you can just give him and extra physical move in Earthquake. Or go totally mixed.

Archaeos @ Expert Belt
252 attack / 252 speed(or sp. att) / 4 sp. attack(or speed)
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Dragon Pulse
Focus Blast/Earth Power

Opinions?
 
I don't see him finding that much use due to his unimpressive defenses and in return, making his ability really suck. I can't see him finding many opportunities to switch in, as he is so frail. Also, if the opponent has rocks up, he won't be able to switch in twice before his ability kicking in. Unless you have a way to get him in with a Sub or restoring his health back to 50%+ (or is it 51%+?), I don't see him finding his way onto many teams, as his ability isn't the best, however, it does help to in theory prevent him from being broken, otherwise. However, we won't know.

EDIT: Idk on how his status on being a mixed attacker will stand as... his SpA stat isn't extremely impressive, and with more offensive-based Pokemon that have been introduced, I'm not sure if he will find his own niche being a mixed attacker.
 
LafondaOnFire said:
I don't see him finding that much use due to his unimpressive defenses and in return, making his ability really suck. I can't see him finding many opportunities to switch in, as he is so frail. Also, if the opponent has rocks up, he won't be able to switch in twice before his ability kicking in. Unless you have a way to get him in with a Sub or restoring his health back to 50%+ (or is it 51%+?), I don't see him finding his way onto many teams, as his ability isn't the best, however, it does help to in theory prevent him from being broken, otherwise. However, we won't know.

EDIT: Idk on how his status on being a mixed attacker will stand as... his SpA stat isn't extremely impressive, and with more offensive-based Pokemon that have been introduced, I'm not sure if he will find his own niche being a mixed attacker.
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This is precisely why he will work best as a trump card. Keep him till its late game and you wont have to switch him much or at all, then fire all batteries. Do you think it would work to put a healing item on him? Maybe something consumable like a Sitrus or even a Lum for statuses, and then he could use that brilliant boosted Acrobat.
 
Serebii is wrong. I use Aaken ingame currently(its Pre-evo) and while it generally hits unbelievably hard(Acrobat ftw), when I use Dragon Breath after getting into <50% it does significantly less damage than usual. Too bad. But I guess I would still use it....
 
I have to correct myself(or wait for confirmation by hackers, maybe?).
I decided to test it against other Pokemon(first time was a wild Ganturo(Dangoro´s evolution), this time I went for Miruhoggu.

I still haven´t evolved my Aaken. I used Dragon Breath as against Ganturo. It did little damage and paralyzed. Next move, Mirohoggu beats my Aaken in <50%. Another Dragon Breath does around the same as before. Maybe it stays the same?

Since DBreath paralyzed, I couldn´t test speed stat. That came next:
I battle against a Shikijika. Aaken uses Ancient Power(DBreath always paralyzed...) and takes two hits(I wasted one turn on purpose). Afterwards it is below 50%, where its speed supposedly should be cut half(high probability of being outsped by Shikijika). Instead, I still am faster.
Serebii may be right. Would really be great. And yeah, my confirmation is, that I tested ingame.
 
Thanks for the preliminary info, JojoX3. Though I'd prefer some hackers' confirmation just to be sure, this is enough to give me hope that Archaos will be allright ^^
 
Yeah. Definitely better news than the initial report. I had even noticed that for a while earlier, when everyone thought it decreased all stats, Serebii just had simply "When HP is below 1/2,..." leaving it blank for confirmation, and filled in "attack is decreased" later. At this point, that sounds more likely, which is good news!
 
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