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NOC Assist Trophy Mutiny [GAME OVER]
- Thread starter Celever
- Start date
oh derp.
No. N1, Whydon flipped you and Ehmcee. N2, you and Laurel.
I don't even know?
N1 seems fine. Ehmcee thought to be town at that point, with AG the person that most heavily went against him.
N2 doesn't make sense though? Laurel is cleared town by end of day 2 and he targeted the.... idle spot? It'd make more sense if it was say ehmcee given him flip flopping at the end.
Overall though, poor excuse to justify how he essentially led a myslynch day 1 while not doing much day 2?
ur literally gatekeeping ur outfit from me mama
Hey fellas, I'm super sorry not going to be very available during the next few days due to irl stuff. I will try to at least poke my head in from time to time, but i shouldn't be able to write longer posts unless it's later in the evening EST.
Would love to try and solve with everyone, just spending time with family rn.
Would love to try and solve with everyone, just spending time with family rn.
Alright.
I've basically just idled aside from two things:
Targeting Duskfall with the funny "did you kill a man in El Paso, Texas at 2:11 AM on December 1, 2027?" ability the night he died (I think) and targeting Tbz and Shadowpea with the restraining order thing like last day cycle or whenever
Why did you choose to target those players?
READLIST 2.0
Town: (100% sure)
Aura Guardian
Whydon
TBZ
I don't think we ever hit these guys
Townlean:
Jalmont (pretty much exclusively due to AG townread)
Nulls i can see being either one:
Zippy, Neon, Laurel,
Scumleans:
Haruno, Fame (More certain on Haruno)
My reads for most of the game kind of got flipped over when the AG situation cleared up, was hung onto him for most of the game, but their role screams town to me, as well as their behaviour for most of the game just seems like argumentative town trying to win.
Feel like I've explained myself enough with Whydon/TBZ
I've kind of been on Haruno for a good part of the game, lised them as my least good null read on my first readlist as one of the main pushers of the whydon vs LS dichotomy, definitely feels like a maf that tried to get both of them lynched for easy double town vote.
Fame's a bit more of a soulread, and I definitely prioritize it less than Haruno, also just don't want to vote off an inactive again... might have to though. #490 struck me as a bit weird and even maybe forced? Like instead of acknowledging that it's probably due to a transporter/busser, asking the question kind of stikes me as: "Woah this is so weird, it happened to both of us? That means we're both surely townies", I might be reading too much into it, but that's usually how i play (hence the AG debacle as well as the last minute flip with psy last game).
Zippy's back to a null for me, feels like they've gotten worse today? Especially with explaining vote away by wagonomics. Also their role is actually crazy strong? Escort + Essentially an ability reader definitely sounds on the power-level of a maf ability, sounds extremely scary to play against.
Neon's also back to null, I've only ever townread him because of his list, but now it kind of seems like that's just something he does? Not even motivated by towniness or anything, just likes to understand the game in that way. I think the list definitely could benefit him as maf, as well as boosting towncred.
Laurel's a big ???, i think he's played pretty on par with how he usually plays? Maybe even a bit more helpful? Not super sure
Ultimately i think a lot of this game depends on getting scum tonight and praying to god this isn't a 4 maf setup
Vote Haruno
Ultimately, I think most of the game rides on either maf only having 3 members or us having at least a few vigs
As I said, won't be around super much for the coming days, and will probably not be around at DL. Will try to read more into the game and potentially flip vote if town opinion changes a lot.
Town: (100% sure)
Aura Guardian
Whydon
TBZ
I don't think we ever hit these guys
Townlean:
Jalmont (pretty much exclusively due to AG townread)
Nulls i can see being either one:
Zippy, Neon, Laurel,
Scumleans:
Haruno, Fame (More certain on Haruno)
My reads for most of the game kind of got flipped over when the AG situation cleared up, was hung onto him for most of the game, but their role screams town to me, as well as their behaviour for most of the game just seems like argumentative town trying to win.
Feel like I've explained myself enough with Whydon/TBZ
I've kind of been on Haruno for a good part of the game, lised them as my least good null read on my first readlist as one of the main pushers of the whydon vs LS dichotomy, definitely feels like a maf that tried to get both of them lynched for easy double town vote.
Fame's a bit more of a soulread, and I definitely prioritize it less than Haruno, also just don't want to vote off an inactive again... might have to though. #490 struck me as a bit weird and even maybe forced? Like instead of acknowledging that it's probably due to a transporter/busser, asking the question kind of stikes me as: "Woah this is so weird, it happened to both of us? That means we're both surely townies", I might be reading too much into it, but that's usually how i play (hence the AG debacle as well as the last minute flip with psy last game).
Zippy's back to a null for me, feels like they've gotten worse today? Especially with explaining vote away by wagonomics. Also their role is actually crazy strong? Escort + Essentially an ability reader definitely sounds on the power-level of a maf ability, sounds extremely scary to play against.
Neon's also back to null, I've only ever townread him because of his list, but now it kind of seems like that's just something he does? Not even motivated by towniness or anything, just likes to understand the game in that way. I think the list definitely could benefit him as maf, as well as boosting towncred.
Laurel's a big ???, i think he's played pretty on par with how he usually plays? Maybe even a bit more helpful? Not super sure
Ultimately i think a lot of this game depends on getting scum tonight and praying to god this isn't a 4 maf setup
Vote Haruno
Ultimately, I think most of the game rides on either maf only having 3 members or us having at least a few vigs
As I said, won't be around super much for the coming days, and will probably not be around at DL. Will try to read more into the game and potentially flip vote if town opinion changes a lot.
At this point, I'm hoping for a votecount. I see a few votes on Haruno, but how many?
Despite Neon's targeting making not much sense, it feels very him and... well, his abilities locking certainly plays into the game having unlocker roles like me.
After going back to look at that post, I was going to argue with this. Then I re-read the second half of this, and I see where you're coming from. Doesn't feel too off to me, though.
Will half-claim since most people seem to be doing it
Night Active 1: I choose a player and copy the abilities they are using that night onto a second player. (Note that this can copy multiple abilities if the target uses many, as well as do nothing if my first target idles)
Night Active 2: I choose a player, if they have been gifted abilities, I copy the gifted ability and add it to my own ability list. This ability gets locked as well as all copied gift abilities if I use my Third Ability.
(I asked Celever what gifted meant, and it seemed to be hyper specific language to mean abilities gifted to a player from another player)
Active Ability 3: (Going to keep this one secret as it's fairly powerful and is definitely an endgame ability, will say that I can use it in any phase however.)
Will reveal ability 3 if needed, but I really think town is better off if I keep it hidden for now. Again won't be around for EoD, but if vote shifts to me as I come back tommorow, I might have to pop it.
Night Active 1: I choose a player and copy the abilities they are using that night onto a second player. (Note that this can copy multiple abilities if the target uses many, as well as do nothing if my first target idles)
Night Active 2: I choose a player, if they have been gifted abilities, I copy the gifted ability and add it to my own ability list. This ability gets locked as well as all copied gift abilities if I use my Third Ability.
(I asked Celever what gifted meant, and it seemed to be hyper specific language to mean abilities gifted to a player from another player)
Active Ability 3: (Going to keep this one secret as it's fairly powerful and is definitely an endgame ability, will say that I can use it in any phase however.)
Will reveal ability 3 if needed, but I really think town is better off if I keep it hidden for now. Again won't be around for EoD, but if vote shifts to me as I come back tommorow, I might have to pop it.
ehmcee - i'm not sure but definitely led the vote away from zippy. and then decided shadowpea was mafia d2 even though they were town d1. sus af. last post was good though.
neon - town but like wtf are those targets
jalmont - big time town
whydon - probably town very lucky that i buy his actions because otherwise he would be MAFIA for me
haruno - big time mafia
laurel - probably town? mafia teammates with tbz?
fame - probably town? must hear more from him. Fame pls man i need you WE need you
zippy - ZippyDoo200 can you explain your non-communication role more. i need to reread but maybe mafia?
AG - big time town i'm PRETTY sure
i'll be gone most tomorrow but will be around in the evening to play so don't take that as an excuse to be quiet
neon - town but like wtf are those targets
jalmont - big time town
whydon - probably town very lucky that i buy his actions because otherwise he would be MAFIA for me
haruno - big time mafia
laurel - probably town? mafia teammates with tbz?
fame - probably town? must hear more from him. Fame pls man i need you WE need you
zippy - ZippyDoo200 can you explain your non-communication role more. i need to reread but maybe mafia?
AG - big time town i'm PRETTY sure
i'll be gone most tomorrow but will be around in the evening to play so don't take that as an excuse to be quiet
I feel pretty bad about the shadowpea vote btw, I had in mind for most of the game that AG was probably maf, and then got destabilized pretty hard when my main read ended up locktown, this was also after I pivoted off of Zippy, which was based off of a few posts I liked from D2, but nothing concrete. With basically no real scumreads at that point, I kind of just slotted on the wagon realiti was already on, as I hated the two other wagons a lot more.
you thought haruno and zippy were mafia and decided that the best use of your role stopping action would be to target two other unrelated players? can you walk me through your thought process on that one?
He was widley considered town in day 1, despite mostly being parroting everyone. Think it just wasn't obvious then? Hence why I gave zippy a pass since he called that out in day 1 when no one else really noticed.
In retrospect, I see how/why people regarded my attempts to pin Whydon down as scummy. So I can't really complain about that specifically... but looking at 205 to 220, it feels like a very wishy-washy approach, which I can complain about and which is a huge red flag from (admittedly faded) memory (remembering a game dogfish44 basically carried. I was the infinite bpv that game). Wants to light a fire under inactives... Townreads Zippy.
Looking at Haruno -> Zippy -> Possibly Ehmcee? Ehmcee would depends on Haruno and Zippy, though. But I see a link between them.
If it helps at all, I think i was pretty townread for being the main person to push against AG for trying to force Whydon into hard backing up his LS redcheck. I was pretty certain from the start that it was fake, and if anything thought it would be a surefire way to get both whydon and LS lynched, even proposed at one point to just lynch Whydon first to avoid doing the double lynch in case he was lying.
This is interesting phrasing, what makes me obviously maf?
everyone is a conftown besides me .-. gonna need to actually post something substantial I would think?
Laurel and Fame look like leans, while Zippy isn't really read. And he also susses ehmcee a bit. So... not everyone conftown.
wym? It was more so the fact that people townread you for essentially doing nothing but parroting. Didn't really go against the LS/Whydon situation, and especially with the swap at the end of day 2, feels quite sus.Answer the question