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wym? It was more so the fact that people townread you for essentially doing nothing but parroting. Didn't really go against the LS/Whydon situation,

You have not read my posts, to think I was parroting is insane


There is no chance in hell there is a day 1 redcheck ability

First one to call out Whydon on the callout being faked (apart from LS, obviously)

Do you think they would do this as mafia AG
Pushing onto AG that this is in no way a scum whydon play

Just feels weird that you're weaponizing your vote on Whydon on a conditionality of them being right or not, like I get the thought process of "locking" it down, but you have to get that Whydon is 99% just trolling here.

Also locking town into a vote is usually a bad play, especially on D1. Makes it easy for maf to plan around the vote, especially if there's some kind of wacky roles we don't know about.

This is the furthest possible thing from parroting
 
Did a quick iso on realiti :
pro-TBZ/Neon, changed a bit on Whydon.
Sheeped Whydon on anti-Laurel/Haruno/Zippy
Calls out some inconsistencies with Zippy's experience and terminology
Sheeps for against zippy/haruno/laurel, but gets most scummy very wrong. Well one of them for sure, and I think it was later that I mostly-cleared Spiderz-turned-JALMONT

Not much else.

If he was killed for his reads, then... hm, might explain one other person's reads.
 
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Town: (100% sure)

Aura Guardian
Whydon
TBZ

I don't think we ever hit these guys

Townlean:
Jalmont (pretty much exclusively due to AG townread)

Nulls i can see being either one:
Zippy, Neon, Laurel,

Scumleans:

Haruno, Fame (More certain on Haruno)



My reads for most of the game kind of got flipped over when the AG situation cleared up, was hung onto him for most of the game, but their role screams town to me, as well as their behaviour for most of the game just seems like argumentative town trying to win.

Feel like I've explained myself enough with Whydon/TBZ

I've kind of been on Haruno for a good part of the game, lised them as my least good null read on my first readlist as one of the main pushers of the whydon vs LS dichotomy, definitely feels like a maf that tried to get both of them lynched for easy double town vote.

Fame's a bit more of a soulread, and I definitely prioritize it less than Haruno, also just don't want to vote off an inactive again... might have to though. #490 struck me as a bit weird and even maybe forced? Like instead of acknowledging that it's probably due to a transporter/busser, asking the question kind of stikes me as: "Woah this is so weird, it happened to both of us? That means we're both surely townies", I might be reading too much into it, but that's usually how i play (hence the AG debacle as well as the last minute flip with psy last game).


Zippy's back to a null for me, feels like they've gotten worse today? Especially with explaining vote away by wagonomics. Also their role is actually crazy strong? Escort + Essentially an ability reader definitely sounds on the power-level of a maf ability, sounds extremely scary to play against.

Neon's also back to null, I've only ever townread him because of his list, but now it kind of seems like that's just something he does? Not even motivated by towniness or anything, just likes to understand the game in that way. I think the list definitely could benefit him as maf, as well as boosting towncred.

Laurel's a big ???, i think he's played pretty on par with how he usually plays? Maybe even a bit more helpful? Not super sure



Ultimately i think a lot of this game depends on getting scum tonight and praying to god this isn't a 4 maf setup

Vote Haruno


Ultimately, I think most of the game rides on either maf only having 3 members or us having at least a few vigs

As I said, won't be around super much for the coming days, and will probably not be around at DL. Will try to read more into the game and potentially flip vote if town opinion changes a lot.

Did you even read the thread I’m clear
 
Why do people think tbz is confirmed town again because of being a role that seems to get more abilities the more he’s targeted? That seems more scum like than village aligned
 
Fame can you talk a little bit about why you decided to target Ehmcee night 1. Try and be as vague as you can

To answer your question real quick, it was because I had initially TR'd Ehmcee D1 for their interactions with AG over the Whydon scenario. I think if you look through my ISO you'll find the post where I say I TR them.
 
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Fame's a bit more of a soulread, and I definitely prioritize it less than Haruno, also just don't want to vote off an inactive again... might have to though. #490 struck me as a bit weird and even maybe forced? Like instead of acknowledging that it's probably due to a transporter/busser, asking the question kind of stikes me as: "Woah this is so weird, it happened to both of us? That means we're both surely townies", I might be reading too much into it, but that's usually how i play (hence the AG debacle as well as the last minute flip with psy last game).

I'm going to say this is a bit of a reach tbh. I had claimed targeting Ehmcee with my ability & being redirected to Spiderz already, so I was literally just asking if the same thing had happened to both myself and AG for the sake of getting some clarity on night actions. Us targeting Ehmcee actually says nothing about alignment until we claim what role we targeted them with!
 
My role is not an escort, its just like an escort.

My other role doesn't check roles, all it does is I choose a dead player and choose one night and recieve the communication between host and player. I used it on shadowpea yesterday and it just told me some dumb shit about dragon power than means nothing to me. It's a worthless ability.
 
D3 Votecount V.1.0.

Haruno (3)
- JALMONT, ImaginaryNeon, Ehmcee (L-3)

Not Voting (7) - Whydon, Haruno, Laurel, TBZ, Fame, Zippy, Aura Guardian

30 Hours 30 Mins Remain
 
Neon's also back to null, I've only ever townread him because of his list, but now it kind of seems like that's just something he does? Not even motivated by towniness or anything, just likes to understand the game in that way. I think the list definitely could benefit him as maf, as well as boosting towncred.
Funnily enough, I was already thinking about how the second I roll scum, I'd be fucked in the L O N G run pretty much any and all townlean from my lists would be null and void.
 
My role is not an escort, its just like an escort.

My other role doesn't check roles, all it does is I choose a dead player and choose one night and recieve the communication between host and player. I used it on shadowpea yesterday and it just told me some dumb shit about dragon power than means nothing to me. It's a worthless ability.
So your role ensures that your target isn’t booked or redirected?
 
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