Azelf (LO 4 Attacks) [QC 0/3]

[Schpoonman]

Okay, so I will be spearheading the Azelf rewrite (removing mentions of Deoxys-D, stuff like that), but before I get to that, I'd like to push forward this set that I've used to great success in UU. I will be totally honest, a lot of the AC and OO are simply things that I thought of on the spot to expand more and give more options to potential users. I've literally made one change to this set (Psyshock -> Psychic) since I made it.



name: Life Orb Attacker
move 1: Psychic/Psyshock
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Flamethrower
move 4: Grass Knot
item: Life Orb
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe

[Set Comments]

• Fast, powerful clean-up sweeper/revenge killer
• Shadow Ball hits the many Ghosts and Psychics of UU REALLY hard
• Flamethrower smelts Steel-types and forest-fires Grass-types; 2HKOs 252/252+ Bronzong and breaks Shaymin in half
• Grass Knot 2HKOs 252/0 Suicune (Suicune!) at +1 assuming Rocks/some prior damage. Seriously.

[Additional Comments]

• Psyshock can work against some special walls, but without boosts it’s lacking a little bit; it only does around 40% on average to 208/124+ Snorlax, one of Azelf’s premier counters
• EVs are for power and to tie with Timid Raikou. Watch out for Scarfers, Weavile, and Dark Pokemon in general

[Other Options]

• U-turn and a Naïve/Hasty nature is possible, but there are better scouts and you’re missing out on what could be a crucial coverage move for what is mostly dead weight
• In a similar vein, a fully physical set with Jolly is possible, as Azelf has a 125 base Attack stat, but his special movepool is far more vast and effective
• Hidden Power could also be used, but even a super effective Hidden Power is weaker than a neutral STAB Psychic. Again, without boosts, it’s a little too weak be really effective. To assist Azelf’s weakness to Dark and Normal Pokemon, consider teammates such as the Hitmon family, Heracross, or Cobalion

 

[TrollFreak]

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3464050

Isn't this set like this one only with Shadow Ball > U-Turn

 

[kokoloko]

Since you're gonna be rewriting the whole analysis, you should just put up the whole skeleton before we approve this. I like this set, though, I'm sure it'll go through in the full rewrite with more deatails and probably some slashes.

But yeah, full skeleton before approvals, etc.

EDIT: @TrollFreak - Yes, but he's rewriting the whole thing, so this set will be included. It's a really good cleaner.

 

[Heysup]

You may as well slash U-turn in with Shadow Ball and have one set. Hell, even Stealth Rock works.

 

[Rakan]

No Fire Blast slash to hit a little harder? Unless it doesn't grant any specific KOes... >.>

 

[Schpoonman]

Oh, man, I never even thought of Fire Blast. Actually, Shaymin gives this set a lot of trouble because Offensive Shaymin is never OHKO'd and Seed Flare always OHKO's. Gimme a minute.

 

[kokoloko]

Worry about the details when you put up a full skeleton (its better that way so you don't risk overlapping information between sets).

The last 4 EVs in every set should be in SpD btw, as this prevents Download from raising SpA.

 

[Schpoonman]

Alright. Can a mod lock this until I'm ready? Send me a PM so I know who to hit up to unlock it (unless any mod can do so. But it'd still be nice to have someone I know has the power)

EDIT: Actually, I'll just open a new topic. Probably makes more sense.