Hello,
I'm an ex-BW player, and haven't played the game for 8 years. I decided to give 8th gen a try, I built this team and reached top 100 on the ladder.
Currently I think the team is pretty solid but still has some flaws, so I would appreciate testing and feedback of better players. The team had different versions, I will only show the last one there.
As an early BW player, I wanted to play Excadrill so the 2 first members of the team were obvious.
SANDSTORM (Hippowdon) @ Smooth Rock
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Slack Off
- Stealth Rock
- Whirlwind
Classic set. I value Whirlwind over Toxic because I frequently need it to remove some threats.
EXCA EXCA (Excadrill) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Swords Dance
- Rapid Spin
I don't need my exca to sweep to win games. He's there to revenge kill and Rapid spin. That's why I play lefto and not LO. Sometimes he can manage to set up and finish games, but usually I don't need him to do the job. He's my main ressource to counter fairy types Pokemon such as Clef and Hatterene.
Then I was weak to Water types so I randomly added Ferro.
FERRERO (Ferrothorn) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Leech Seed
- Body Press
- Knock Off
Knock off is really usefull to counter these boring dual screens teams. Knock off drastically reduces Grimsnarl's utility. It's also effective against Rotom-H which is a dangerous threat for the team. I use Rocky Helmet primarily to damage Dracovish, Mimikyu, Zeraora, other Ferro, and Corviknight. It can also help to finish off a Conkeldurr baited by Excadrill (Mach punch).
Spikes because Ferro has many opportunities to place them.
Body Press because it beats Kyurem, Roost Corviknight and other Ferro. Can also damage a Rotom-H.
TOXA TOXA (Toxapex) @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Recover
- Haze
- Toxic
Toxa came in later versions of the team but is really important now. This Pokémon is literally broken. It covers so much things, and its sustain feels like a real cheat every game. Nothing to add. Haze is mandatory in this team. Toxic is simply better than t-spikes because Toxa is so popular that it makes the move barely impactful.
Clefable @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 80 HP / 252 SpA / 176 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Flamethrower
- Calm Mind
- Soft-Boiled
This is the star of the team. I don't know why offensive Clef is not more popular but in this meta this set is insanely strong. Flamethrower OHOK Ferro, can OHKO Exca. It's unbelievable how this clef has so many good matchups. LO Moonblast Modest Clef 2HKO almost everything in the metagame. After one calm mind, it becomes a real threat.
Clef still does the defensive job against Hydreigon, Conkeldurr, and Dragapult. Its main check is Toxapex but since our team deals well against it, we aren't bothered. By the way, this Clef wins its duel against most Clef because of the speed investment. It also outspeeds and OHKO Condkeldurr with Moonblast.
He basically DESTROYS my opponents most of the time.
Zera KING (Zeraora) @ Choice Band
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Plasma Fists
- Close Combat
- Blaze Kick
- Grass Knot
The second revenge killer of the team with Exca.
Blaze kick because it can help destroying a ferro and I actually rarely need to have Play Rough to win my games. It would make sense to check Kommo-O, but actually we don't need to kill it. Kommo-O is perfect to set up Clef. Zeraora bander can also surprise a lot of people because the set isn't that popular. I just play bander because most of the time I use one move and switch with my Zera. Sometimes it's a bit frustrating but for this team he seems fine.
He's also my man to suprise Rotom-H. Close Combat bander Zeraora 2HKO Rotom-H.
The strategy against Rotom-H is to weaken him by Knock off / Sandstorm + consecutive switch. You basically have to predict its moves and switch between toxa / Hippo / and Zera when it uses Natsy Plot, and finish it with a Close Combat.
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To me, the team is really good. When I lose, it's because I'm not good enough, not because of the building. I rarely have bad match ups. I would like some players to test it out and maybe improve it. Any help is welcome.
I'm an ex-BW player, and haven't played the game for 8 years. I decided to give 8th gen a try, I built this team and reached top 100 on the ladder.
Currently I think the team is pretty solid but still has some flaws, so I would appreciate testing and feedback of better players. The team had different versions, I will only show the last one there.
As an early BW player, I wanted to play Excadrill so the 2 first members of the team were obvious.
SANDSTORM (Hippowdon) @ Smooth Rock
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Slack Off
- Stealth Rock
- Whirlwind
Classic set. I value Whirlwind over Toxic because I frequently need it to remove some threats.
EXCA EXCA (Excadrill) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Swords Dance
- Rapid Spin
I don't need my exca to sweep to win games. He's there to revenge kill and Rapid spin. That's why I play lefto and not LO. Sometimes he can manage to set up and finish games, but usually I don't need him to do the job. He's my main ressource to counter fairy types Pokemon such as Clef and Hatterene.
Then I was weak to Water types so I randomly added Ferro.
FERRERO (Ferrothorn) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Leech Seed
- Body Press
- Knock Off
Knock off is really usefull to counter these boring dual screens teams. Knock off drastically reduces Grimsnarl's utility. It's also effective against Rotom-H which is a dangerous threat for the team. I use Rocky Helmet primarily to damage Dracovish, Mimikyu, Zeraora, other Ferro, and Corviknight. It can also help to finish off a Conkeldurr baited by Excadrill (Mach punch).
Spikes because Ferro has many opportunities to place them.
Body Press because it beats Kyurem, Roost Corviknight and other Ferro. Can also damage a Rotom-H.
TOXA TOXA (Toxapex) @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Recover
- Haze
- Toxic
Toxa came in later versions of the team but is really important now. This Pokémon is literally broken. It covers so much things, and its sustain feels like a real cheat every game. Nothing to add. Haze is mandatory in this team. Toxic is simply better than t-spikes because Toxa is so popular that it makes the move barely impactful.
Clefable @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 80 HP / 252 SpA / 176 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Flamethrower
- Calm Mind
- Soft-Boiled
This is the star of the team. I don't know why offensive Clef is not more popular but in this meta this set is insanely strong. Flamethrower OHOK Ferro, can OHKO Exca. It's unbelievable how this clef has so many good matchups. LO Moonblast Modest Clef 2HKO almost everything in the metagame. After one calm mind, it becomes a real threat.
Clef still does the defensive job against Hydreigon, Conkeldurr, and Dragapult. Its main check is Toxapex but since our team deals well against it, we aren't bothered. By the way, this Clef wins its duel against most Clef because of the speed investment. It also outspeeds and OHKO Condkeldurr with Moonblast.
He basically DESTROYS my opponents most of the time.
Zera KING (Zeraora) @ Choice Band
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Plasma Fists
- Close Combat
- Blaze Kick
- Grass Knot
The second revenge killer of the team with Exca.
Blaze kick because it can help destroying a ferro and I actually rarely need to have Play Rough to win my games. It would make sense to check Kommo-O, but actually we don't need to kill it. Kommo-O is perfect to set up Clef. Zeraora bander can also surprise a lot of people because the set isn't that popular. I just play bander because most of the time I use one move and switch with my Zera. Sometimes it's a bit frustrating but for this team he seems fine.
He's also my man to suprise Rotom-H. Close Combat bander Zeraora 2HKO Rotom-H.
The strategy against Rotom-H is to weaken him by Knock off / Sandstorm + consecutive switch. You basically have to predict its moves and switch between toxa / Hippo / and Zera when it uses Natsy Plot, and finish it with a Close Combat.
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To me, the team is really good. When I lose, it's because I'm not good enough, not because of the building. I rarely have bad match ups. I would like some players to test it out and maybe improve it. Any help is welcome.
SANDSTORM (Hippowdon) @ Smooth Rock
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Slack Off
- Stealth Rock
- Whirlwind
EXCA EXCA (Excadrill) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Swords Dance
- Rapid Spin
Clef STAR (Clefable) @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 80 HP / 252 SpA / 176 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Flamethrower
- Calm Mind
- Soft-Boiled
FERRERO (Ferrothorn) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Leech Seed
- Body Press
- Knock Off
TOXA TOXA (Toxapex) @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Recover
- Haze
- Toxic
Zera KING (Zeraora) @ Choice Band
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Plasma Fists
- Close Combat
- Blaze Kick
- Grass Knot
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Slack Off
- Stealth Rock
- Whirlwind
EXCA EXCA (Excadrill) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Swords Dance
- Rapid Spin
Clef STAR (Clefable) @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 80 HP / 252 SpA / 176 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Flamethrower
- Calm Mind
- Soft-Boiled
FERRERO (Ferrothorn) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Leech Seed
- Body Press
- Knock Off
TOXA TOXA (Toxapex) @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Recover
- Haze
- Toxic
Zera KING (Zeraora) @ Choice Band
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Plasma Fists
- Close Combat
- Blaze Kick
- Grass Knot
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