credit to TheMantyke for the initial list
This guide is to be used to see possible moves a Pokemon may have based on the Poke Ball that they come out of. Sometimes this is very important for competitive players in-game as it can reveal certain moves they may or may not have.
As a general note:
-All pokemon with egg moves and native to gen 3-5 must have a pokeball
-All pokemon from gen 6 can have egg moves and whatever pokeballs, but lack previous gen TMs and tutor attacks
-Pokemon will be listed in the lowest form they get their moves, and level will be provided in the event of LC compatible
-Anything bolded is relevant to simulator play, by default we will assume that the simulator always chooses the best possible option (you won't give away information you don't have to)
- Pokemon with Hidden Abilities cannot legally be inside Safari Balls, Sport Balls, or the Apricorn Balls
-Anything with event moves of course cannot have egg moves
-As a technical rule, event Pokemon cannot be nicknamed. The only exception would be if someone somehow had the same Trainer and Secret ID.
A Poke Ball
designates that the move is not relevant to simulator play
A Master Ball
designates that the move is relevant to simulator play
GEN 3 BALLS:
Poke Ball
Great Ball
Ultra Ball
Master Ball
Safari Ball (Safari Zone only)
Premier Ball
Repeat Ball
Timer Ball
Nest Ball
Net Ball
Dive Ball
Luxury Ball
GEN 4 BALLS:
Heal Ball
Quick Ball
Dusk Ball
Cherish Ball
Park Ball
GEN 4 HG/SS EXCLUSIVE BALLS:
Level Ball
Lure Ball
Moon Ball
Friend Ball
Love Ball
Heavy Ball
Fast Ball
Sport Ball
GEN 5 EXCLUSIVE BALLS:
Dream Ball
Charmander
A Japanese Charmander in a Cherish Ball can have Quick Attack and Howl, must have Blaze, must be male, natures are: Hardy, Naughty Naive, or Mild, and at least level 40.
Pikachu
A Pikachu in a Cherish Ball can have Volt Tackle and Lightningrod, at least level 100.
A Pikachu in a Cherish Ball can also have Fly and Static, lacks gen 3-4 exclusive moves.
A Pikachu in a Cherish Ball can have Last Resort, also Present, must have Static, is Japanese, at least level 30.
A Pikachu in a Cherish Ball can have Yawn, also Sleep Talk, Rest, and Snore, must be Relaxed natured, must have Static, is Japanese, at least level 50.
Meowth
A Cherish Ball Meowth can have Sing, and has Pickup, lacks gen 3-4 exclusive moves.
A Poke Ball Meowth can have Petal Dance.
Eevee
A Cherish Ball Eevee can have Sing and has Adaptability, lacks gen 3-4 exclusive moves.
Mewtwo
A Mewtwo in a Cherish Ball can have Hurricane or Heal Pulse and will always have Unnerve. Lacks Gen 3-4 exclusive moves.
A Mewtwo in a Cherish Ball can also have Electro Ball an Pressure. Lacks Gen 3-4 exclusive moves.
Mew
A Mew in a Cherish Ball can have Teleport, also Aura Sphere or Amnesia, is Japanese, at least level 50. Lacks gen 3 exclusive moves.
Pichu
A Shiny Pichu in a Cherish Ball can have Endeavour, will also get Volt Tackle, Endure, and Charge. Ability is Static, gender is Male. Lacks gen 3 exclusive moves. Lowest is level 30.
Crobat
A Cherish Ball Crobat is Timid with Heat Wave, with Inner Focus lacks Gen 3 exclusive moves.
Tyranitar
A Tyranitar in a Dream Ball with Unnerve can have Seismic Toss, and must be male.
Raikou
A shiny Raikou in a Cherish Ball can have Aura Sphere, Weather Ball, Zap Cannon and Extremespeed, must be Rash nature, cannot have access to Gen 3 exclusive moves.
Entei
A shiny Entei in a Cherish Ball can have Flare Blitz, Howl, Crush Claw, and Extremespeed, must be Adamant nature, cannot have access to Gen 3 exclusive moves.
Suicune
A shiny Suicune in a Cherish Ball can have Sheer Cold, Air Slash, Aqua Ring and Extremespeed, must be Relaxed nature, cannot have access to Gen 3 exclusive moves.
Lugia
A Lugia in a Dream Ball will always have Multiscale and lacks Gen 3-4 moves.
A Lugia in any other Pokeball will always have Pressure and may have Gen 3-4 moves.
Ho-Oh
A Ho-Oh in a Dream Ball will always have Regenerator and lacks Gen 3-4 moves.
A Ho-Oh in any other Poke Ball will always have Pressure and may have Gen 3-4 moves.
Celebi
A Celebi in a Luxury Ball can have Hold Back, lacks Gen 3-5 exclusive moves.
A Celebi in a Cherish Ball can have Nasty Plot, lacks Gen 3 exclusive moves.
Sableye
A Sableye in a Cherish Ball can have Octozooka and Tickle, along with Prankster lacks, Gen 3-4 exclusive moves.
Metagross
A Metagross in a Dream Ball can have Double Edge, must have the Light Metal ability.
Rayquaza
A non shiny Rayquaza in a Cherish Ball can have V-Create, but lacks all Gen 3-4 exclusive moves.
A shiny Rayquaza in a Cherish Ball lacks all Gen 3-4 exclusive moves.
A Raquaza in a Dusk, Quick, or Heal Ball lacks Gen 3 exclusive tutor attacks and V-Create.
A Rayquaza in any other Poke Ball lacks V-Create but can have Gen 3-4 exclusive moves.
Jirachi
A Jirachi in a Cherish Ball can have Draco Meteor. Lacks gen 3 exclusive moves.
A Jirachi in a Cherish Ball can have Draco Meteor, Meteor Mash or Follow Me. Lacks all Gen 3-4 exclusive moves.
Deoxys
A Deoxys in a Dusk Ball can have Nasty Plot or Dark Pulse, but lacks Gen 3 and 4 exclusive TMs, HMs, and tutor attacks.
A Deoxys in a Cherish Ball lacks Gen 3 exclusive tutor attacks.
A Deoxys in a Poke Ball can either have Meteor Mash or Detect and lack Gen 3 exclusive moves or lack these event moves and have Gen 3 exclusive moves.
Riolu
A Riolu in a Poke Ball can have Aura Sphere, must be Serious Nature, must have Steadfast, must be male, and at least Level 30.
Dialga
A shiny Dialga in a Cherish Ball lacks Gen 4 exclusive moves.
A Dialga in a Dream Ball has the ability Telepathy and lacks Gen 4 exclusive moves.
A Dialga in any other Poke Ball has the ability Pressure and can have Gen 4 exclusive moves.
Palkia
A shiny Palkia in a Cherish Ball lacks Gen 4 exclusive TMs, HMs, and Tutor Attacks.
A Palkia in a Dream Ball has the ability Telepathy and lacks Gen 4 exclusive TMs, HMs, and Tutor Attacks.
A Palkia in any other Poke Ball has the ability Pressure and can have Gen 4 exclusive TMs, HMs, and Tutor Attacks.
Giratina-A
A shiny Giratina in a Cherish Ball lacks Gen 4 exclusive TMs, HMs, and Tutor Attacks.
A Giratina in a Dream Ball has the ability Telepathy and lacks Gen 4 exclusive TMs, HMs, and Tutor Attacks.
A Giratina in any other Poke Ball has the ability Pressure and can have Gen 4 exclusive TMs, HMs, and Tutor Attacks.
Heatran
A non-shiny Heatran in a Poke Ball can use Eruption and must be Quiet natured.
Darkrai
A Darkrai in a Cherish Ball can have Phantom Force (unreleased until April 19th 2014) but cannot have Gen 4-5 exclusive TMs, HMs and Tutor Attacks.
A Darkrai in a Cherish Ball can also have Roar of Time and Spatial Rend.
Arceus
An Arceus with Roar of Time, Spatial Rend, or Shadow Force must be in a Cherish Ball
An Arceus native to gen 4 must be in a Cherish Ball.
An Arceus from a Poke Ball is gen 5 native, and cannot have access to Gen 4 moves.
Victini
A Victini in a Cherish Ball can have V-Create and can have either Fusion Bolt and Fusion Flare or Bolt Strike, Blue Flare, and Glaciate.
Snivy
A Snivy in a Cherish Ball may have Aromatherapy and is at level 5.
Gothorita
A Gothorita in a Dream Ball with Shadow Tag may have Imprison, must be male, must be Japanese.
Zoroark
A Zoroark in a Cherish Ball is Quirky natured.
Tornadus
A Tornadus in a Dream Ball will always have Defiant.
A Tornadus in any other Poke Ball will never have Defiant.
Thundurus
A Thundurus in a Dream Ball will always have Defiant.
A Thundurus in any other Poke Ball will never have Defiant.
Reshiram
A Reshiram in a Cherish Ball can have Mist.
Zekrom
A Zekrom in a Cherish Ball can have Haze.
Landorus
A Landorus in a Dream Ball will always have Sheer Force.
A Landorus in any other Poke Ball will never have Sheer Force.
Genesect
All Genesect are in Cherish Balls.
Shiny Genesect must be Hasty natured, can have Blaze Kick, Extremespeed, and Shift Gear.
If there is anything I am missing please post here, if you have access to easy evidence from a site please also post that.
This guide is to be used to see possible moves a Pokemon may have based on the Poke Ball that they come out of. Sometimes this is very important for competitive players in-game as it can reveal certain moves they may or may not have.
As a general note:
-All pokemon with egg moves and native to gen 3-5 must have a pokeball
-All pokemon from gen 6 can have egg moves and whatever pokeballs, but lack previous gen TMs and tutor attacks
-Pokemon will be listed in the lowest form they get their moves, and level will be provided in the event of LC compatible
-Anything bolded is relevant to simulator play, by default we will assume that the simulator always chooses the best possible option (you won't give away information you don't have to)
- Pokemon with Hidden Abilities cannot legally be inside Safari Balls, Sport Balls, or the Apricorn Balls
-Anything with event moves of course cannot have egg moves
-As a technical rule, event Pokemon cannot be nicknamed. The only exception would be if someone somehow had the same Trainer and Secret ID.
A Poke Ball
A Master Ball
GEN 3 BALLS:
GEN 4 BALLS:
GEN 4 HG/SS EXCLUSIVE BALLS:
GEN 5 EXCLUSIVE BALLS:
Charmander
Pikachu
Meowth
Eevee
Mewtwo
Mew
Pichu
Crobat
Tyranitar
Raikou
Entei
Suicune
Lugia
Ho-Oh
Celebi
Sableye
Metagross
Rayquaza
Jirachi
Deoxys
Riolu
Dialga
Palkia
Giratina-A
Heatran
Darkrai
Arceus
Victini
Snivy
Gothorita
Zoroark
Tornadus
Thundurus
Reshiram
Zekrom
Landorus
Genesect
If there is anything I am missing please post here, if you have access to easy evidence from a site please also post that.
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