Barboach [GP 0/2]

[a fairy]

qc: diana, aerrow

barboach
Barboach

[Overview]
- Can Dragon Dance
- Good STABs
- Needs set-up to be a threat


[SET]
name: Dragon Dance
move 1: Dragon Dance
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Rest
item: Eviolite
ability: Hydration
nature: Adamant / Impish
evs: 36 HP / 212 Atk / 12 Def / 28 SpD / 196 Spe

[Set Comments]

-rain is almost nessesary for this set
-Dragon Dance because it absolutley needs boosts
-earthquake and waterfall are great stab attacks to use
-rest is used with hydration so that you can heal yourself when needed
-evs are to give good attack ad speed with still having a decent defense
-adamant if you want attack power, impish if you want defensive prowess
-eviolite for additional bulk

[Additional Comments]


- Needs Spikes and Stealth Rock support to be effective
- Needs to be paired with something that can beat Ferroseed, such as Magnemite or Houndour
- Appreciates Dual Screen support, such as Bronzor ad Exeggute
-Chinchou can counter frillish and slowpoke
-ferroseed is barboach’s friend, die to grass resist and entry hazards

[Other Options]

- Could use Oran Berry or Life Orb over Eviolite
- Could slap together a Choice Band set, though it's entirely outclassed
- Can use Toxic to help break through bulky waters
- Hydration could be combined with Rest, but Rain is a poor choice in LC
- Could run a special attacking set with Hydro Pump / Earth Power / Ice Beam
-Bounce if you need to counter Grass types, but is illegal with hydration

[Checks and Counters]

- Ferroseed
- Frillish, Slowpoke, basically anything bulky that can Burn it
- Just about any Grass-type, notably Snover, wall it without Bounce
- Wooper with Unaware can take anything Barboach can dish out and not care
-Cottonee due to Cotton Guard

 

[(makeup)]

Fix the format / EV abbreviations. Look at any uploaded analysis to see the correct EV format.
Why is Aqua Tail there? Yes, "more powerful," but Waterfall is always preferred unless Aqua Tail is specifically necessary.
Can you explain why Life Orb is slashed? I know what the item does, don't tell me it gives extra power. If there is no specific reason to use it, Eviolite is always better.
You need to link to Barboach's on-site page.
Explain why each nature is better than the other in each situation.

 

[a fairy]

I'll do that ASAP.

 

[comatthew6]

Few things about this analysis:

1. Does a +1 Life Orb net any OHKOes/2HKOes that the Eviolite version wouldn't? If it does (say, an 2HKO on Slowpoke with a DD or an OHKO on Hippo, etc.) I think that LO should be the first option.
2. Cottonee does well against this even with Bounce because of Cotton Guard
3. Lileep does well - so you should mention Fighting-types as partners
4. You also need to add more to the set comments section - what do the moves do?
5. add that stuff in, and I'll stamp it.

 

[a fairy]

I wish I could ask the original writer of the analysis...

I'll look into it.

 

[Crux]

OK, the set is completely wrong. It should be this.

[SET]
name: Dragon Dance
move 1: Dragon Dance
move 2: Earthquake
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Rest
item: Eviolite
ability: Hydration
nature: Adamant / Impish
evs: 36 HP / 212 Atk / 12 Def / 28 SpD / 196 Spe

Barboach is only good with rain support so bronzor, ferro, tyke etc. make excellent partners. The aim of the set is to get lots of boosts, much like that kingdra set in OU. This is why a defensive nature is probably best but IDK someone else can comment on that.

The set you have listed is not very good because even with one boost Barboach is not very strong, it needs several to be effective.

 

[a fairy]

Note: If the previous author does not post in 24 hours his reasoning for the sets and stuff, I'm going to restart completely.

 

[Tyranitarphantom]

I'm very much liking the set that Crux posted. After running some calcs, Life Orb really isn't worth using. Rest and Hydration is a good choice, but make sure to note that Rain will be necessary (seems obvious, but there are people who are that scrubby).

So, use the set that Crux posted, and simply put Bounce in other options, and make note that if you're that scared of Grass-types, it is an option, but Hydration can't be used with it. Barboach is a very limited Pokemon, so there aren't many other options. Remove Aqua Tail, and don't mention Return; it's not useful. I'll leave it to you to get wordy with it. If anything is unclear, just let me know

 

[a fairy]

Thank you, Tyraitarphantom. I'll fix this when I get home from school today.

 

[a fairy]

ok did what i promised

 

[Diana]

- Could use Oran Berry over Eviolite or Life Orb

Should now be "could use Oran Berry or Life Orb over Eviolite"

Otherwise this is fine.

[QC 1/2]

(I thought I looked at this earlier but I guess I forgot to post, sorry about that)

 

[Aerrow]

Approved.