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Welcome to the BDSP OU Viability Ranking thread. In this thread, we as a community will be ranking every single usable Pokemon into "tiers." You're encouraged to post your thoughts and opinions on the various Pokemon that are usable in BDSP OU and what tier they should fall under. Posts in this thread will be taken into account when deciding rank changes.
The general idea is to sort each OU Pokemon under rankings that go in descending order. Since this is a tier list for the entire metagame, everything is lumped together. There won't be any segregation between offense, defense, and supportive presences in the metagame within this thread. For example, Skarmory can be ranked in the A- tier as a supportive presence, Infernape can be ranked in A- as an offensive presence, and Blissey can be ranked in the A- tier as a defensive presence. While these three examples can also be found in the initial rankings, the viability of Pokemon and their roles within the metagame can and will change over time, so we will be sure to keep an open mind to this as well and adjust the thread accordingly during each update.
Finally, there will be a council of experienced players who will discuss and vote on the ranking of Pokemon. Depending on how the metagame is developing, we could update the thread every couple of weeks or every month+. Please note that your posts still very much matter and will be factored in to what we discuss and the discussions themselves. This thread is nothing without the posters and every informed opinion that is shared is considered a valuable contribution in my eyes, so do not hesitate to post if you know the metagame well and understand the forum rules. The council will consist of the following users:
BDSP OU Ranking Tier List
S Rank:
S Rank
Garchomp
Heatran
Scizor
Weavile
A Rank:
A+ Rank
Clefable
Latias
Starmie
A Rank
Crawdaunt
Gliscor
Infernape
Rotom-Wash
Tangrowth
A- Rank
Alakazam
Azumarill
Blissey
Celebi
Dragonite
Lucario
Magnezone
Mew
Milotic
Nidoking
Roserade
Suicune
Togekiss
B Rank:
B+ Rank
Azelf
Breloom
Mamoswine
Raikou
Skarmory
B Rank
Entei
Heracross
Feraligatr
Mismagius
Quagsire
Salamence
Slowbro
Slowking
Staraptor
B- Rank
Empoleon
Gastrodon
Gyarados
Jirachi
Kingdra
Medicham
Rotom-Mow
Tyranitar
Zapdos
C Rank:
Aerodactyl
Aggron
Blastoise
Cresselia
Cloyster
Donphan
Espeon
Poliwrath
Snorlax
Shaymin
Torkoal
Volbeat
Weezing
Yanmega
Rules
Welcome to the BDSP OU Viability Ranking thread. In this thread, we as a community will be ranking every single usable Pokemon into "tiers." You're encouraged to post your thoughts and opinions on the various Pokemon that are usable in BDSP OU and what tier they should fall under. Posts in this thread will be taken into account when deciding rank changes.
The general idea is to sort each OU Pokemon under rankings that go in descending order. Since this is a tier list for the entire metagame, everything is lumped together. There won't be any segregation between offense, defense, and supportive presences in the metagame within this thread. For example, Skarmory can be ranked in the A- tier as a supportive presence, Infernape can be ranked in A- as an offensive presence, and Blissey can be ranked in the A- tier as a defensive presence. While these three examples can also be found in the initial rankings, the viability of Pokemon and their roles within the metagame can and will change over time, so we will be sure to keep an open mind to this as well and adjust the thread accordingly during each update.
Finally, there will be a council of experienced players who will discuss and vote on the ranking of Pokemon. Depending on how the metagame is developing, we could update the thread every couple of weeks or every month+. Please note that your posts still very much matter and will be factored in to what we discuss and the discussions themselves. This thread is nothing without the posters and every informed opinion that is shared is considered a valuable contribution in my eyes, so do not hesitate to post if you know the metagame well and understand the forum rules. The council will consist of the following users:
BDSP OU Ranking Tier List
S Rank:
S Rank
Garchomp
Heatran
Scizor
Weavile
A Rank:
A+ Rank
Clefable
Latias
Starmie
A Rank
Crawdaunt
Gliscor
Infernape
Rotom-Wash
Tangrowth
A- Rank
Alakazam
Azumarill
Blissey
Celebi
Dragonite
Lucario
Magnezone
Mew
Milotic
Nidoking
Roserade
Suicune
Togekiss
B Rank:
B+ Rank
Azelf
Breloom
Mamoswine
Raikou
Skarmory
B Rank
Entei
Heracross
Feraligatr
Mismagius
Quagsire
Salamence
Slowbro
Slowking
Staraptor
B- Rank
Empoleon
Gastrodon
Gyarados
Jirachi
Kingdra
Medicham
Rotom-Mow
Tyranitar
Zapdos
C Rank:
Aerodactyl
Aggron
Blastoise
Cresselia
Cloyster
Donphan
Espeon
Poliwrath
Snorlax
Shaymin
Torkoal
Volbeat
Weezing
Yanmega
Rules
- Post intelligently. Posts like "I think pokemon X should be in this tier" will be deleted and infracted if it is a repeat issue. Expand on your opinion with actual analysis showing understanding of the metagame and perhaps bringing a unique perspective to the conversation.
- Absolutely no flaming, personal attacks, or general idiocy will be tolerated. Part of this is under moderator discretion and please know that posting in this thread is a privilege, not a right. You'll get warned initially if it is not something overly malicious, but harsher punishments can and will come with repeated behavior or severe offenses.
- Usage statistics may be used to support an argument or a claim, but don't base your ENTIRE argument around them. There needs to be more substance than just this. For example, you can't just say "Pokemon X shouldn't be this tier because they aren't used that often!"
- When nominating a Pokemon to move from one rank to another, do not merely list its obvious qualities such as stats, typing, movepool, etc. If you think a Pokemon deserves to rise or drop, explain what has changed in the meta to cause such Pokemon to get better or worse. I can assure you that the VR Council already knows the obvious qualities and we are far more interested in understanding why you believe it has increased or decreased in viability.
- Unrelated discussion such as talk of (potential) suspects and unproductive one liners that do not greatly contribute to discussion will be deleted. If this becomes a recurring issue for any particular user, then it could lead to an infraction. If you are unsure where to post something, feel free to start a conversation with the mod team on here or discord. Moreover, if you have a general question, then odds are it belongs in the SQSA, not here.
- Being OU by usage alone does not guarantee a ranking. We touched on usage not being the sole reason behind viability of anything before, but this is very true here as a lot of things accumulate ladder usage despite not being the best option. Do not mistake the correlation between usage and viability as stronger than it actually is. If you have any further questions about this, please start a conversation with me on here or discord instead of posting it in this thread.
- When new Pokemon, items, abilities, and/or anything else relevant to the BDSP OU metagame are released, please hold off on discussing the ranking of the new Pokemon or the rankings of Pokemon that are impacted by these developments until there is approval to discuss the matter by an BDSP Metagames Moderator in this thread.
- Failure to follow these rules after warning(s) will result in an infraction or possibly a ban depending on the severity of the offenses.
- If you are nominating a Pokemon to be ranked (meaning it was previously unranked), then you need to provide replays of it being used in the metagame and you also should go out of your way to be as thorough as possible in explaining why it has a niche in the metagame (Example of GOOD UR Nomination)--a vast majority of nominations have been of poor quality historically and we reserve the right to revoke nomination privileges from thread posters at any point in time. If you are in doubt, then feel free to start a conversation with me on here or discord prior to nominating a Pokemon and I will give you honest feedback on the post.
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