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Big Bird! (Mega Dragonite) [QC 0/2]

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[SET]
Bulky Attacker (Dragonite-Mega) @ Dragoninite
Ability: Multiscale
SPs: 1 HP / 1 Def / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Flamethrower / Heat Wave
- Tailwind / Thunderbolt
- Protect

[SET COMMENTS]

* Mega Dragonite is a bulky offensive; its great typing and access to a range of moves allow it to excel in the current metagame. It plays well into Mega Charizard, Sneasler, Kingambit, and Basculegion-M.

* **Heat Wave versus Flamethrower**: Heat Wave and Flamethrower are both good at hitting Pokemon that resist Dragonite's dragon type moves like Kingambit, Corviknight, and Whimsicott. Both Heat Wave and Flamethrower can have boosted damage with the opponent's sun in a Charizard Y matchup. Flamethrower is the more powerful, consistent option that is not affected by Wide Guard. Heat Wave brings good spread damage and can get around redirection moves such as Follow Me and Rage Powder, but is not as accurate.

* **Thunderbolt and Tailwind**: Tailwind is a great speed control move that can benefit Mega Dragonite along with the rest of its team. In Tailwind, Mega Dragonite can outspeed Mega Aerodactyl and Choice Scarf Basculegion-M. Thunderbolt is a good 3rd attack option to threaten Pokemon like Aerodactyl and Basculegion. Thunderbolt is great on teams that already have speed control available.

Other Options
========

* **Hurricane and Thunder**: Hurricane and Thunder are great options on rain teams because of their consistency when the rain is active.

* **Extreme Speed**: Extreme Speed is great at getting the final damage on Pokemon that either survive on low HP or with Focus Sash.

Teambuilding
========

* **Checks and Weaknesses**: Mega Dragonite is prone to being weak to Mega Floette's Light of Ruin, being one of the only ways to OHKO Mega Dragonite with its Multiscale ability. Mega Dragonite is prone to being weak to Fake Out, causing it to lose the effect of its ability Multiscale. Sylveon and Mega Gardevoir are other fairy types that can deal significant damage to Mega Dragonite, which Mega Dragonite cannot counter on its own. Mega Frosslass and Alolan Ninetales can both hit Mega Dragonite for 4x super effective damage with their ice type moves. Faster Dragon types like Garchomp and Choice Scarf Hydreigon can threaten Dragonite, especially after Multiscale is broken. Mega Tyranitar and Mega Aerodactyl can both threaten Dragonite with their super effective rock type moves.

* **Good Partners and Synergies**: One good partner for Mega Dragonite is Mega Frosslass, able to come to the matchups that are hard for Mega Dragonite, such as Mega Floette. Some other notable partners are Pelipper and Politoed, which can set up the rain for Mega Dragonite, which allows it to safely use Hurricane and Thunder. Sneasler is a good partner that can hit steel type Pokemon that resist dragon type move like Kingambit and Excadrill with Close Combat. Sneasler also hits the fairy types that are immune to dragon type moves like Mega Floette and Sylveon with Dire Claw. Another option to hit those fairy types is Kingambit with Iron Head. Basculegion-M is a powerful attacker that can deal a lot of damage to threats like Mega Floette and Mega Delphox. Mega Scovillian is a good secondary Mega Evolution because it can deal with hard matchups like Mega Frosslass and Mega Floette.

* **How to Overcome Dragonite's Weaknesses**: Mega Dragonite has a lot of rough matchups into meta defining Pokemon and is often only brought to specific matchups. Pairing Mega Dragonite with the right main mega Pokemon is important when overcoming Mega Dragonite's weaknesses. Some good mega Pokemon that could work are Mega Frosslass, Mega Scovillian and Mega Scizor. Some Pokemon that can help Mega Dragonite deal with opposing attackers are Sneasler, who can hit Mega Floette, or Kingambit, who can hit Mega Frosslass.

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this is missing a lot; I'm going to go ahead and QC reject this until you are able to beef it up, i left suggestions on how to do so below as comments
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[SET]
Set Name (Dragonite-Mega) @ Dragoninite
Ability: Multiscale
SPs: 1 HP / 1 Def / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Heat Wave / Flamethrower (flamethrower is more popular, swap these around)
- Tailwind / Thunderbolt
- Protect

[SET COMMENTS]

* Mega Dragonite is a bulky offensive Pokemon that has a good matchup into threats such as Mega Charizard Y and Sneasler. (this is very bare bones, and there is certainly more to say here; Talking about its strong defensive typing in the format, amazing coverage into top threats like kingambit and basculegion-m, versatility within what teams it can fit on, etc etc)

* **Dragon Pulse**: Dragon Pulse is a good stab move that can threaten Garchomp and Hydreigon. (does this really need an explanation? if this is all you can write about it, i dont think it does + it in itself feels rather self-explanatory)

* **Heat Wave versus Flamethrower**: Heat Wave and Flamethrower are both good at hitting Pokemon that resist Dragonite's dragon type moves like Kingambit and Corviknight (it also hits whimsicott). Both Heat Wave and Flamethrower can use the opponent's sun in a Charizard Y matchup (how so?). Flamethrower is the more powerful, consistent option that is not affected by Wide Guard. Heat Wave brings good spread damage and can get around redirection moves such as Follow Me and Rage Powder, but is not as accurate.

* **Thunderbolt**: Thunderbolt is a good 3rd attack option to threaten Pokemon like Aerodactyl and Basculegion. (why would tailwind be run over it? usually when moves are slashed, you want to talk about both of them in the same bullet)

Other Options
========

* **Hurricane and Thunderbolt**: Hurricane and Thunderbolt are great options on rain teams because of their consistency when the rain is active. (you talk about thunderbolt in the main set, so why is it here? Additionally, Extreme Speed is just as, if not, more popular than Hurricane, so I would explain that as well)

Teambuilding
========

* **Checks and Weaknesses**: Mega Dragonite is prone to being weak to Mega Floette's Light of Ruin, being one of the only ways to OHKO Mega Dragonite with its Multiscale ability. Mega Dragonite is prone to being weak to Fake Out, causing it to lose the effect of its ability Multiscale. (i would like to see you mention fairy-types as a whole, not just Floette; Gardevoir and Sylveon are also notable threats to Dragonite. Additionally, you have foregone mention of Mega Froslass, which hits Dragonite hard for 4x Ice-type damage. I think that faster Dragon-types like Garchomp and Choice Scarf Hydreigon also deserve mentions, considering they threaten big damage onto Garchomp once Multiscale is broken. Mega Tyranitar can also have Sand break the Multiscale and then threaten big damage with Rock Slide while easily tanking Mega Dragonite's attacks)

* **Good Partners and Synergies**: One good partner for Mega Dragonite is Mega Frosslass, able to come to the matchups that are hard for Mega Dragonite, such as Mega Floette. Another notable partner is Peliper, which can set up the rain for Mega Dragonite, that allows it to safely use Hurricane and Thunderbolt.+ (Not just pelipper but also Politoed, which is actually more popular on teams that opt for Espathra passing, typically alongside Mega Dragonite. Why are you talking about safely using Thunderbolt in Rain, unless you mean Thunder, thought that hasn't seen relevant usage in recent times. Additionally, you have foregone mention of super common partners like Kingambit and Sneasler, which threaten a lot of Dragonite's foes. Basculegion-M should also have a mention here, as should Mega Scovillain as another secondary mega evolution)

* **How to Overcome Dragonite's Weaknesses**: Getting Mega Dragonite out of positions in front of powerful attackers that can hit it for super effective damage is important when trying to overcome Mega Dragonite's weaknesses. Some Pokemon that can help Mega Dragonite deal with opposing attackers are Sneasler, who can hit Mega Floette, or Kingambit, who can hit Mega Frosslass. (the first sentence is applicable to every single pokemon, plus you are missing quite a bit; talk more about how Mega Dragonite really is only brought in specific matchups, especially considering it is a secondary mega for most teams, and talk about the matchups it really shouldn't be in and the other mega pokemon that help it in those matchups)

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still needs a bit of work, i'd like to see it again
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[SET]
Bulky Attacker (Dragonite-Mega) @ Dragoninite
Ability: Multiscale
SPs: 1 HP / 1 Def / 32 SpA / 32 Spe (why is it 1 HP / 1 Def ? Does that achieve anything in particular? If not, I would just put 2 into one of those stats / special defense)
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Flamethrower / Heat Wave
- Tailwind / Thunderbolt
- Protect

[SET COMMENTS]

* Mega Dragonite is a bulky offensive (it's a bulky offensive what?); its great typing and access to a range of moves allow it to excel in the current metagame. It plays well into Mega Charizard, Sneasler, Kingambit, and Basculegion-M. (would suggest blending the segment after the semi colon with the last sentence, connecting its great typing and access to a range of moves to the things it actually does well into, maybe also writing char, sneas, and basc right after great typing and then something like "Its access to a range of coverage options allows it to threaten Pokemon such as Kingambit, example, example" just ideas)

* **Heat Wave versus Flamethrower**: Heat Wave and Flamethrower are both good at hitting Pokemon that resist Dragonite's dragon type moves like Kingambit, Corviknight, and Whimsicott. Both Heat Wave and Flamethrower can have boosted damage with the opponent's sun in a Charizard Y matchup (this is dex info. if you really want to include it, i recommend explaining why this actually matters aka calcs with flamethrower / heat wave that matter when the sun is up, against charizard y teams). Flamethrower is the more powerful, consistent option that is not affected by Wide Guard. Heat Wave brings good spread damage and can get around redirection moves such as Follow Me and Rage Powder, but is not as accurate.

* **Thunderbolt and Tailwind**: Tailwind is a great speed control move that can benefit Mega Dragonite along with the rest of its team. In Tailwind option, allowing Mega Dragonite can to outspeed Mega Aerodactyl and Choice Scarf Basculegion-M (this is super nitpicky, but i would change these examples, considering they are both pokemon that are primarily targeted by thunderbolt. alterantive examples like choice scarf garchomp and scarf hydreigon would be nice substitutions here). Thunderbolt is a good 3rd attack option to threaten Pokemon like Mega Aerodactyl (more relevant) and Basculegion-M. Thunderbolt is great on teams that already have speed control available (this feels rather self explanatory / kinda like fluff).

Other Options
========

* **Hurricane and Thunder**: Hurricane and Thunder are is a great options on rain teams because of their its consistency when the rain is active. (any specific calcs that are good for hurricane? thunder is going to get cut here because it hasn't seen consistent enough usage, likely because of constant weather wars + having access to thunderbolt)

* **Extreme Speed**: Extreme Speed is great at getting the final damage on Pokemon that either survive on KOing low HP or foes hanging on with Focus Sash. (can you provide some examples? i also get that you were going for koing low hp mons in general though that may be a bit too situational for this analysis + focus sash low-hp is a better example for newer players, at least in my experience)

Teambuilding
========

* **Checks and Weaknesses**: Mega Dragonite is prone to being weak to Mega Floette's Light of Ruin, being one of the only ways to OHKO Mega Dragonite with its Multiscale ability through Multiscale (would talk about fairy-types as a whole here instead of below, considering that's what you start out with). Mega Dragonite is prone to being weak to struggles against Fake Out, causing it to lose the effect of its ability Multiscale (would talk about priority as a whole here and not just fake out, since they all cause the same thing; moves like quick attack from sylveon and sucker punch from kingambit or even aqua jet from Basculegion-M come to mind). Sylveon and Mega Gardevoir are other fairy types that can deal significant damage to Mega Dragonite, which Mega Dragonite cannot counter on its own (with what moves do they deal significant damage to dragonite? as written above, also move this mention to the very beginning). Mega Frosslass Froslass and Alolan Ninetales can both hit Mega Dragonite for 4x super effective damage with their ice type moves hard with Blizzard. Faster Dragon types like Garchomp and Choice Scarf Hydreigon can threaten Dragonite, especially after Multiscale is broken (with what moves?). Mega Tyranitar and Mega Aerodactyl can both threaten Dragonite with their super effective rock type moves (again, provide examples of moves aka rock slide. might as well talk about glimmora / mega glimmora as well).

* **Good Partners and Synergies**: One good partner for Mega Dragonite is Mega Frosslass Froslass, able to come to the matchups that are hard for Mega Dragonite, such as Mega Floette (is mega froslass really good into mega floette though? these teams notoriously carry kingambit, sneasler, basculegion-m, and sometimes ceruledge and if not incineroar to deal with mega floette. instead, mega matchups that dragonite struggles with could be Mega Gardevoir and opposing Mega Dragonite. Also mention that, in return, Mega Dragonite covers matchups like Mega Charizard Y, Mega Scovillain, and Mega Delphox, all of which can be hard for Mega Froslass). Some other notable partners are Pelipper and Politoed, which can set up the rain for Mega Dragonite, which allows it to safely use Hurricane and Thunder (talk about their strong matchups into mega tyranitar and help into mega froslass, both by setting rain). Sneasler is a good partner that can hit steel type Pokemon that resist dragon type move like Kingambit and Excadrill with Close Combat. Sneasler also hits the fairy types that are immune to dragon type moves like Mega Floette and Sylveon with Dire Claw. Another option to hit those fairy types is Kingambit with Iron Head (most of the kingambit alongside mega dragonite are black glasses swords dance sets; no iron head, sometimes drop sd for low kick. talk about instead it doing well into froslass and tyranitar, as well as its good matchup into mega aerodactyl and mega / base glimm + appreciating the support into mega charizard y and scovillain). Basculegion-M is a powerful attacker that can deal a lot of damage to threats like Mega Floette and Mega Delphox (with what moves? a lot are also scarf next to dragonite, so talk about how it helps into mega froslass with scarf last respects). Mega Scovillian is a good secondary Mega Evolution because it can deal with hard matchups like Mega Frosslass Froslass and Mega Floette.

* **How to Overcome Dragonite's Weaknesses**: Mega Dragonite has a lot of rough matchups into meta defining Pokemon (such as? this statement feels kinda contradictory to what you said earlier, especially in the intro) and is often only brought to specific matchups. Pairing Mega Dragonite with the right main mega Pokemon is important when overcoming Mega Dragonite's weaknesses. Some good mega Pokemon that could work are Mega Frosslass Froslass, Mega Scovillian and Mega Scizor (why would you choose these pokemon? gloss over some matchups that they help fix). Some Pokemon that can help Mega Dragonite deal with opposing attackers are Sneasler, who can hit Mega Floette and Mega Tyranitar, or Kingambit, who can hit Mega Frosslass Froslass and Mega Aerodactyl. (added some relevant examples, if you have better ones then feel free to swap them out)

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