Clouds I get the paranoia but... does this actually impact your reads at all? Or are you just saying it as a worry? Feel like the intention with these latest posts compared to your actual hunting and figuring it out is foggy here
yes absolutely, the vast majority of reads should be logically sound and based on meta/role knowledge and i lack a ton of that, i joined this game for two reasons and one of them was to learn. the other was because of the theme
the reads on me so far have been heavily based on high bar expectations people had for me i guess lol, thanks? i'll progressively contribute more insights as the game goes along if i don't get nk'd or misflipped
I think flipping clouds > nuxl though, clouds scum flip means nuxl is town for sure and I was wrong (shocker I knoe)
do not do this, we will flip another town, and if you are also town, this strays us further from our desired end goal (:
ok i reread the last three pages, eli is probably town, I respect sam's approach to the game, ayia is still town, waiting for clouds to post the thoughts that he promised, this will be all for me from a while
ok just for you:
Town
- Clouds: i have the best role in the game, not for its power level but for its... historical significance
- Psy: claimed negative night action occurrence, strong tonal indicators that they're a new town player as opposed to new scum
Town Lean
- Celever: i've kinda started to cast doubts on this lately just from comments such as like "hope you're not pocketing me" etc. that feel almost like reverse psych and i'm the pocketed one, but cel has stated a handful of reads i've resonated with and shed light on role possibilities & other ideas that feel like they're generated from a town member as opposed to scum, and appear to have good intent on the surface
- DLE: a possible stretch because of his presence compared to the others here but posts give me "coasting town", doubt dle plays a scum game like this?
- realiti: don't see the reasoning behind a # of his reads but still think he's town based on the directed/purposeful yet careless attitude i would expect out of a realiti town game, the one thing i dislike is his "i would try harder as scum" comment because it feels like something he'd say as a scum defense even if true
- Spiderz: only concern is active defensiveness and abbreviated posts w/ stuff like "self pmeta" that could totally be scum spiderz' way of making accusations, but all other evidence points to a town spiderz and i feel like his reads have the right motivation behind them, quickly willing to dig up games where he played a certain way to serve as evidence, etc
- Whydon: likely town, doesn't lean into a dyo push and not explain reads for an entire day if he's scum probably, ^ shares some of the idgaf town attitude from above
Neutral
- Drookez: still need to iso him & i'll do that in a sec after i finish this, but don't remember any post or series of posts with enough content for me to develop a read
- Dyo: at first i was more townlean on dyo and thought the reads were baseless but whydon's post re: dyo's posts being overly polished and my own belief that he might be skimming the surface and trying not to say anything incriminating, i
can see scum dyo. still don't feel strongly enough to put him in scumlean and can see how his posts would be incorrectly skewed based on what others who know him would expect from his scum playstyle
- Haruno: initial scumread, now neutral because of their vt "mason-like" role claim. felt townish, unsure how often fakeclaims like that arise
- M2H: when i say i'm hesitant to make hasty reads this was one from earlier d1 (and persists d2 as well), i thought a lot of their posts seemed overeager followed by combativeness which felt like scum levels of volatility, granted i don't know them or how they'd approach a forum maf game, but i slight scumleaned m2h based on that at first. neutral now since looking back at d1 their townreads and explanations for them, such as the one on hal, make good sense. sure, anyone can townread hal there, but the reasoning felt genuine and potentially from a town perspective
- Nuxl: here because i won't undermine eli's ability to play a good scum game and i'm sure it's strong, but the majority of his posts (especially his most recent summary one) speak town/seem purposeful. only reason i don't townlean him is it feels like he'll sometimes pull on insignificant info ex. realiti's dyo sheep vote and i can see scum eli "caring" more about things like that than town eli who doesn't dig into it. townleaned prior to this cycle, still probably the closest of the neutrals to townlean but yeah
- Ryo: inconclusive/not enough to go off of here
- Shadowpea: overwhelmingly neutral, no strong feelings in any direction
- Texas: see ryo
- Vizh: certain posts have read like extended new player scum effort to me, but unlikely to be scum with caff and since i currently sus caff, vizh goes here. also some posts feel mafia-centric as in like, considered from a scum pov before a town pov. less defensive than when he plays mindnight as scum..
Scum Lean
- CaffeineBoost: this shared sentiment amongst a few players that caff is mostly in the clear is confusing, their reads seem plausible but so many of their posts are related to things i would expect scum to be thinking about often, such as the suggest role and how it could feed into whatever iteration of a vigilante we have. i mentioned overeagerness when talking about m2h and i think it applies more to caff than them tbh. even smaller posts like #1,752 don't sit right w/ me. if we were to vote vizh and vizh flipped scum it'd be a near hard clear, or could dig our hole way deeper
- Dave: saw a mention of a positive toneread on him but ngl i felt nearly the opposite here, and while there isn't much that'd outright make you say "yeah, they're scum", there's a strong lack of content that'd imply they're town or acting in town's favor (my favorite poster so far in this thread on a non-game level though, except now rssp's made an abbreviated yet powerful appearance to rival this)
- US/Yeti: mostly tone-based here, at one point said they liked m2h's plays in a past night which would make me think m2h and us/yeti are less likely to both be scum, albeit a small thing
Scum
- Ayia: gonna go out on a limb and say that ayia is just scum, jumps in to the thread to drop a couple reads that i completely disagree with (scumreads psy for example) and doesn't seem as directed as i'd expect a town ayia to be based on like, a few ps mafia observations. spiderz was quick to defend upon his scumread of him which makes me think there's no way they're both scum-aligned, but if one of the two is scum there's much more reason for me to believe it's ayia rn
- Laurel: i'm conflicted on this because like i would not be shocked if town laurel just didn't care about the game and was intentionally reading close to nothing/making random fluff posts – and i also argued against tunneling or focusing on him too much, which i stand by – but i'm still placing him in the scum cat because wtf if that's his town approach
Third Party
- Sificon: gl king