It's kinda hard to change your skin colour. But it's pretty damn easy to stop taking an mlp lunchbox to school.Care to explain why you think so?
It's kinda hard to change your skin colour. But it's pretty damn easy to stop taking an mlp lunchbox to school.Care to explain why you think so?
They are just molding everyone into the same thing, and you can't stand up for your odd interests anymore.Usually I don't post on these sort of threads, but this...this is just awful.
I'm not here to declare who is victim or not; rather, to just show how f***ed up this scenario is. This generation is nothing more than a brute mentality that will do whatever they want, whenever they want, and society has unfortunately caught on (no offense).
This school, instead of actually doing something about it like a school should, instead looked upon how society nowadays would do it...to get rid of anything that is different from them, to abolish the oddballs from the group, and almost even FORCE the "mainstream trends" onto the kid.
This is society everybody: a bunch of idiots who will bring even the hardest working down, will ridicule those who don't deserve it, and if you do not follow these rules or "guidelines?" Extreme punishment and a shallow future. Thanks...makes me feel real happy as a human fucking being. (no offense intended)
who is blaming the kid? who are these people saying "it's his fault or that he deserved it"? they told him not to bring it in a (possible futile) attempt to stop the bullying. now someone said he was getting bullied before this, and they're also probably right that he could still get bullied after it (altho sounds like he changed schools? idk) so maybe it's not going to work but like what other solution do you propose.I don't see why this has anything to do with "gender" at all; it's just a boy that likes MLP, there is no need for any special labelling.
That said, yeah, it's pretty horrendous. "lol you deserve it for being different and sticking out, BACK TO THE CONFORMITY FURNACE FOR YOU"
Seriously? No. That's total horse shit. Those kids have no right to bully some kid just because he likes something they don't like, or that they find it strange, so he deserves to be ostracized for it. You don't have to like everyone you come into contact with, but someone being different from you sure as fuck does not give you license to mentally [or otherwise!] abuse them. It is not his fault that he was bullied; he wasn't being an asshole, he brought a bag with ponies on it for Christ's sake. How the fuck can anyone even say that it's his fault or that he deserved it at all? Those kids are definitely the ones who should be punished, not this guy. Schools are supposed to be safe places where you're allowed to express your creativity and individuality in non-destructive ways, not where you have to hide in the corner while you're ridiculed and laughed at; one of the prime duties of a school is to protect its students.
What a complete and utter joke.
But why should you have to? Giving in to bullies should be a very low priority.It's kinda hard to change your skin colour. But it's pretty damn easy to stop taking an mlp lunchbox to school.
Then suggesting not to bring it rather than outright banning it sounds ideal, no?who is blaming the kid? who are these people saying "it's his fault or that he deserved it"? they told him not to bring it in a (possible futile) attempt to stop the bullying. now someone said he was getting bullied before this, and they're also probably right that he could still get bullied after it (altho sounds like he changed schools? idk) so maybe it's not going to work but like what other solution do you propose.
everyone is so disgusted that this elementary school isn't doing anything to punish the bullies (even though i've read they are and also the school cannot comment on the situation so really we're only getting 1 side to this anyway) but i think you guys should step back. you're an administrator of an elementary school. among the other constant shit you have to deal with (you're responsible for hundreds of kid's personal safety) you find out a bunch of kids have been bullying 1 kid because he brings a MLP bag to school. what is your solution that attempts to keep this kid safe while also keeping in mind that everyone involved is only in 4th grade, so the punishments can't be too extreme. i'm just lost at what easy solution you guys have for this that isn't going to cause problems. you 100% cannot expel the 5+ kids who are bullying, like that is just not how it works. you can't force them to go to another school. you can force them to apologize and give them a short suspension but is that really going to deter 4th graders if they see that bag again? no, probably not. so you give them a suspension and then tell the kid who was bullied that he can't bring that bag in anymore for his own safety and move on with the other jobs you have as the administrator of this school.
apparently that means we're siding with the bullies or limiting creativity and freedom. the actual truth is the school cannot and will not monitor 1 child for his entire schooling to make sure no one ever bullies him again and this is just an attempt at stopping the bullying. crux, if you really think you can reason with 4th graders then good luck, but outside of the classroom they probably dismissed or forgot what you said already. there is so much misguided anger at the school here when the reality is their hands are tied and they took a pretty solid option. i mean hell the school isn't even being deranged and giving the kid any suspension for bringing the bag in or saying he cant bring it other places, just that inside the school they're responsible for his safety and they're just trying to prevent the kid from getting hurt.
Lol, I don't know what school you went to, but physical abuse and tormenting sounds pretty average to me for bullying. Not every kid goes through physical abuse, but it doesn't make it out of the ordinary. It all depends on the area.Seems a bit stronger than your average bullying, too - punching and pushing someone to the ground? That goes beyond "name calling," that's physical abuse and is honestly still illegal. Yes, I understand that they are kids and naturally they can't be expected to be tried by law or anything due to their age and [probable, people really underestimate kids, I find] lack of cognizance of the possible consequences of the situation, but I'm pretty sure this goes beyond the stuff that virtually every kid goes through in some way, shape, or form when they're in school, and would likewise need more keen monitoring because of it. They outright banned him from doing so, which probably means he will be given disciplinary actions from the higher-ups if he does indeed bring it, correct?
I completely disagree. When you're looking out for the safety of a child, it doesn't matter if it seems like you're "taking sides". If there's a known cause for the bullying, then you want to eliminate it. As a teacher, I'd rather tell this kid that he can't bring in his bag than harshly punish every single kid that makes fun of him or bullies him for it (which would be a lot, because I know that if I were in that school and I saw a kid with that bag, I would have bullied him too). Everyone wants to stick up for the little guy, but as kd said, you can't watch every single child 24/7. Instead, you go for a medium. You reprimand the kids for bullying in the form of a suspension, and you eliminate the problem at its source, in order to avoid more conflict."You should consider not bringing it" vs "You cannot bring this" are two very different things. Considering not bringing it is looking out for his safety; outright banning it would, at least if I were a bully, affirm my actions as "right" in my own mind due to even my teachers agreeing with me. That may not be the way it'd actually be, but I'd probably see it that way.
I live in Canada. Maybe that makes it self-explanatory.Lol, I don't know what school you went to, but physical abuse and tormenting sounds pretty average to me for bullying. Not every kid goes through physical abuse, but it doesn't make it out of the ordinary. It all depends on the area.
I completely disagree. When you're looking out for the safety of a child, it doesn't matter if it seems like you're "taking sides". If there's a known cause for the bullying, then you want to eliminate it. As a teacher, I'd rather tell this kid that he can't bring in his bag than harshly punish every single kid that makes fun of him or bullies him for it (which would be a lot, because I know that if I were in that school and I saw a kid with that bag, I would have bullied him too). Everyone wants to stick up for the little guy, but as kd said, you can't watch every single child 24/7. Instead, you go for a medium. You reprimand the kids for bullying in the form of a suspension, and you eliminate the problem at its source, in order to avoid more conflict.
youre a real tough guy arent you pal, maybe this 9 year old needs to emulate your hard-as-nails leadEven if he doesn't take the bag to school, he'll still be bullied for bringing it in the past. Its as simple as this, bring the bag to school, get that ass whooped. Plain and simple. If you know people are gonna joke on you, keep it at home. If someone wore a kkk outfit to a all black school, expect to get that ass whooped. He knew people wouldnt accept it and continued to bring it. Fuck that sensitive shit, leave that pony bag at home bro.
Maybe he should. Its a cold world, he'll learn that sooner or lateri wasnt gonna say anything in this thread but man i saw this post and jesus fucking christ
youre a real tough guy arent you pal, maybe this 9 year old needs to emulate your hard-as-nails lead
i am like 90% sure he is mocking the guy in this post: http://www.smogon.com/forums/thread...ns-him-from-bringing-it.3502548/#post-5319430i wasnt gonna say anything in this thread but man i saw this post and jesus fucking christ
youre a real tough guy arent you pal, maybe this 9 year old needs to emulate your hard-as-nails lead
You do realize it is highly illegal for death threats? Also, what fourth grader watches "mature tv shows and trys... Fit in the crowd"? I am pretty sure that nobody particularly tries to; it's just that nobody stand out at that age. Please tell me you can find something better than "we did it" and "don't have a good sense of empathy at that age".wow you're an idiot.
Best. Logical. Sentence. Ever!
it's fucked up but honestly we all proly said / did shit like this in 4th grade. during this period of adolescence kids are emulating what they see on mature tv shows and trying to fit in with the crowd...we remember elementary school as a simple time where it was all smiles but there were definitely nasty bullies (and we bullied people without even realizing it)...just don't have a good sense of empathy at that age.
anyway this is 4th grade, honestly it was probably just the lunchbox that made the kid an easy target to make fun of/laugh at, with it gone, the kids will move on and just find something new to make fun of. at most these kids were a bunch of dicks like i said and should be punished for bullying but i don't think it'll go past that.
Really?Right or wrong the Supreme Court recently ruled that a school could forbid students from wearing shirts with american flags on them so a lunch box doesn't have much hope of legal protection.
U.S. flag codes aren't actually punitively enforced, but it's pretty clear that flags get "special treatment" as compared to lunch boxes.U.S. flag codes said:The flag should not be used as "wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery", or for covering a speaker's desk, draping a platform, or for any decoration in general (exception for coffins). Bunting of blue, white and red stripes is available for these purposes. The blue stripe of the bunting should be on the top.
The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic uniform, except that a flag patch may be used on the uniform of military personnel, firefighters, police officers, and members of patriotic organizations.
Oh. No no. It had nothing to do with flag codes. It was because the school officials were afraid it would tick off the latin american students at their school.Really?
U.S. flag codes aren't actually punitively enforced, but it's pretty clear that flags get "special treatment" as compared to lunch boxes.